Don't care about Thunderbirds. Would be all over an ice cold beer remake though.
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Pretty crappy to just steal Ben's work. From what I've seen there's not going to be a lot of need for many manuals to be printed with acknowledgment as this game looks like a real mess in it's current state. Maybe enough can be tweaked to make it decent enough but this can't compete with any pro version stern offers. The artwork does look fairly well done, nothing else about it seems to be though.
Quoted from wiredoug:thats the point so many dont get .. hes NOT a salesman. He doesnt want to 'represent' anything.
He just wants to go make pinball machines in peace and the international court of pintards wont let him.
If that was the case he would have not been on several forums trying to drum up business. No one is stopping him from making pinball machines. If what you say is true the games would just be complete and people would find out about them through web searches randomly looking for pinball stuff. Instead he is on several forums and just started taking games to shows so that he can sell them and represent Homepin. This is pretty much the exact definition of representation and salesmanship. Unfortunately he's not good at either. I hope for his employees sake that this game doesn't sink the company but based on what the game video looks like this project is in big trouble. Hopefully it can be turned around and he will give Ben the credit he is due.
Quoted from jokerpoker:I’m confused. Ben says he stole it and knows his code backwards as only he would. Fair enough.
But Mike quotes Bens posts saying it’s ok to copy and pretty much do as you like with it. So not stolen. Permission given from what I read. Am I missing something. It’s only a Pinball after all.
Storm in a teacup. TBAG springs to mind lol.
Did you read anything that Ben wrote? He was very specific that he would not allow use of his system for commercial projects and was kind enough to offer help for people doing home brew games. He stole Ben's idea and Ben specifically told him he did not have his permission to use it.
Quoted from Hitch9:Well, this is unfortunate.
It looks like another pinball manufacturer has been run off the forum.
Sometimes, I just wonder if it would be better, for people to email their concerns to the other parties, instead of flagrantly throwing them to the wolves here. Sometimes we aren’t the most kind bunch here (me included).
Pack mentality abounds here we’ll. It turns me off sometimes.
You are not serious are you? For the most part the game did not get positive reviews at release. It did not just get blasted but lots of feedback was offered that was not positive. But what do you expect if the game has major design flaws. Next up it's pointed out that the board design and most of the code was just ripped off from Ben. Which appears to be true and was even confirmed by Homepin. Then he throws a little hissy fit and closes his account.
Simple fact is he to this point is behind, has a poorly designed game that needs lots of work, and a ripped off board set and code. It's going to be pretty hard to expect good reviews when that is what you bring to the table. Throw in that he's a hot head that lives by the daily code of I don't give a F%%K and I can't imagine why this project is circling the drain.
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