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Homepin OFFICIAL Thread - Pinball Parts & Machine Progress


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#4351 3 months ago
Quoted from dudah:

Say what you will about Mike and his approach to making games.
I admire his dedication to making repro parts.
Most recently classic Bally transformers and drivers.
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I dont even see that for sale anywhere. Wanted to compare it with others.

#4352 3 months ago
Quoted from wiredoug:

Its funny .. if you fix the story with the details you omitted it doesnt sound anything like as bad
not "freely admitted" but ..."he told the reasons why he also made a reset board in a different market"
not "fell silent" but "mike gave up trying to reason with me on a realistic licensing fee"
and you dont omit the willingness to engage in cooperation and conversation further (remember this bit you left out?) .. "If you feel we could co-operate on projects in the future please don't hesitate to contact me"
its the same story.. but a whole new spin.. he tried to work with you..

Keep in mind that this was not the first time he ripped off someone's board designs. I'm a little surprised to see you trying to poke holes in Rob's story.

Quoted from wiredoug:

his might be a "low-quality copycat" if you like (dont know, never seen either of them in person) ....but your board is also a hack job so half assed techs dont have to do their work properly.. please dont encourage them. there are too many backyard repair guide readers who think they're pinball techs already.
Make them fix it properly.

The daughterboard can be a useful fix in a pinch and a helpful quick diagnostic tool. I don't use it as a permanent fix for issues, but it does have its uses.

I had a WPC game at a show once, but it kept resetting at the show. As you may be familiar, sometimes the voltage is low at shows, and that was just low enough to start affecting the game.

I always carry a daughterboard around in my toolkit just in case, and installing that got the game back up and running when I otherwise would not have had the time or parts to service the driver board properly.

#4353 3 months ago

Force you are using it as a temporary fix. Too many people use it as a permanent one. Too many people offer it up whenever someone has a 5v issue. No diagnoses, just slap it in and forget about it.

#4354 3 months ago
Quoted from KenLayton:

This banner is now at the top of Homepin's website:
Thunderbirds Pinball production has now ended.
Watch the Homepin Facebook page for our next machine

Thanks

#4355 3 months ago

Let’s see if the Chinese zombie goes and plays any better lol.

Tough to see many people signing up to buy another game from this upstanding individual.

#4356 3 months ago
Quoted from wiredoug:

his might be a "low-quality copycat" if you like (dont know, never seen either of them in person) ....but your board is also a hack job so half assed techs dont have to do their work properly..

Just shows your ignorance here.

Your dedication to fight this man’s (self made) battles is astounding

It takes a special kind of foul person to get Rob Khar to speak up and bad about you. One of the nicest and kindest people on the planet

#4357 3 months ago
Quoted from dung:

Force you are using it as a temporary fix. Too many people use it as a permanent one. Too many people offer it up whenever someone has a 5v issue. No diagnoses, just slap it in and forget about it.

And no harm in doing that either. There is no trophy for defending the antiquated and low tolerant 5v design when modern components can do the job more reliably. It’s a simple bypass for a fragile design.

Who gets a hard on for an opportunity to pull a wpc driver board out of the cabinet for a repair?

#4358 3 months ago
Quoted from extraballingtmc:

Let’s see if the Chinese zombie goes and plays any better lol.
Tough to see many people signing up to buy another game from this upstanding individual.

When was that cabinet first shown? I don’t even remember at this point. Has there been any new info since then? An underside playfield? Somebody play testing it? Sales of any kind? With TB being out of production, what is the pinball production side of things doing? Does it even exist in Taiwan yet/anymore? Besides making reproduction/copied replacement boards it doesn’t seem like much is going on.

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#4359 3 months ago
Quoted from flynnibus:

And no harm in doing that either. There is no trophy for defending the antiquated and low tolerant 5v design when modern components can do the job more reliably. It’s a simple bypass for a fragile design.
Who gets a hard on for an opportunity to pull a wpc driver board out of the cabinet for a repair?

People who actual learn how to work on machines instead of someone who throws money at the hobby and remains ignorant. The more popular this hobby has become the more we get of the later instead of the former.

It is a hack. The original boards are not even hard to fix. Being that pulling a driver board from a wpc is a drag for you says enough so let's leave it here.

#4360 3 months ago
Quoted from dung:

People who actual learn how to work on machines instead of someone who throws money at the hobby and remains ignorant. The more popular this hobby has become the more we get of the later instead of the former.
It is a hack. The original boards are not even hard to fix. Being that pulling a driver board from a wpc is a drag for you says enough so let's leave it here.

I love doing mechanical work on my pins, but I don't have a lot of knowledge or skills when it comes to boards. Every WPC game I owned would reset with double flipper presses, while other games (Stern, JJP, Spooky, CGC, etc.) were fine. I assume it has something to do with my electrical lines? Needless to say, Rob Kahr's daughterboards were a godsend to me, because they solved the issue. I don't think it had anything to do with the boards themselves. Anyone who dogs Rob is an a-hole in my book. I also had the opportunity to meet him in person at one of the shows - great guy.

#4361 3 months ago
Quoted from dung:

People who actual learn how to work on machines instead of someone who throws money at the hobby and remains ignorant. The more popular this hobby has become the more we get of the later instead of the former.

I bet you must really get wound up when you see all those replacement segment displays instead of people getting smart and just fixing the old ones! The nerve of those people! And LEDs? It's the end of the world!

Can we go back to the days of RGP arguing over if clear coating playfields ruins the game? I prefer the spot in time when people thought Tom's mods for TZ were the devil incarnate.

Quoted from dung:

It is a hack. The original boards are not even hard to fix. Being that pulling a driver board from a wpc is a drag for you says enough so let's leave it here.

It's only a hack to those too stubborn to actually look at what it does. The engineers appreciate the simple elegance of the solution.

And yes, the WPC driver board is a pita... Too many screws, so many aging IDC connectors, and takes up alot of space on the bench. Snap-caps are always a risk too just due to the physical forces involved and 25+yr old through-hole boards.

But thank you for carrying the torch so the rest of us can stay on the couch.

Either way - it's a dick move for Homepin to knock off the product. Rob addressed a real issue in the hobby with a GOOD product and is part of the hobby himself. To have another insider go and knock it off is a DICK MOVE.

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#4362 3 months ago
Quoted from flynnibus:

I bet you must really get wound up when you see all those replacement segment displays instead of people getting smart and just fixing the old ones! The nerve of those people! And LEDs? It's the end of the world!
Can we go back to the days of RGP arguing over if clear coating playfields ruins the game? I prefer the spot in time when people thought Tom's mods for TZ were the devil incarnate.

It's only a hack to those too stubborn to actually look at what it does. The engineers appreciate the simple elegance of the solution.
And yes, the WPC driver board is a pita... Too many screws, so many aging IDC connectors, and takes up alot of space on the bench. Snap-caps are always a risk too just due to the physical forces involved and 25+yr old through-hole boards.
But thank you for carrying the torch so the rest of us can stay on the couch.
Either way - it's a dick move for Homepin to knock off the product. Rob addressed a real issue in the hobby with a GOOD product and is part of the hobby himself. To have another insider go and knock it off is a DICK MOVE.

A knock off of a hack that shouldn't exist in the first place. I see it the same as people who solder wires to the gi plug because they dont know how to use a desoldering gun.

As for led displays, oh boy, guess what I was doing last night? Building a set of wolfpac's, which are excellent by the way. Also have two Bally Fa boards sitting on my desk needing the fpga's programmed. Don't mistake my hatred of a hack as being anti-technology. I love technology. I love all the new options people are coming up with. For example, did you know geeteoh has a replacement for the S&T sound board? It doesn't use the original chips and is playing wav files but also means it can be made on demand.

What I hate are people too lazy to learn how to fix their shit. You wanna be lazy and throw a hack in? Fine, I just don't want to buy such crap off you and if I am buying a game with that I won't be paying what I would for one that doesn't have it. That garbage is a big red flag to me saying "Owners can't maintain their games, expect other hacks"

You see this as some amazing solution to a bad design. I see it as someone too lazy to work on their own equipment. Saying the board has too many screws is all you needed to say. We won't agree and just move on. This has jack all to do with new technology, clearcoats, mods, or anything else.

#4363 3 months ago
Quoted from dung:

A knock off of a hack that shouldn't exist in the first place. I see it the same as people who solder wires to the gi plug because they dont know how to use a desoldering gun.
As for led displays, oh boy, guess what I was doing last night? Building a set of wolfpac's, which are excellent by the way. Also have two Bally Fa boards sitting on my desk needing the fpga's programmed. Don't mistake my hatred of a hack as being anti-technology. I love technology. I love all the new options people are coming up with. For example, did you know geeteoh has a replacement for the S&T sound board? It doesn't use the original chips and is playing wav files but also means it can be made on demand.
What I hate are people too lazy to learn how to fix their shit. You wanna be lazy and throw a hack in? Fine, I just don't want to buy such crap off you and if I am buying a game with that I won't be paying what I would for one that doesn't have it. That garbage is a big red flag to me saying "Owners can't maintain their games, expect other hacks"
You see this as some amazing solution to a bad design. I see it as someone too lazy to work on their own equipment. Saying the board has too many screws is all you needed to say. We won't agree and just move on. This has jack all to do with new technology, clearcoats, mods, or anything else.

Glad u have the time and knowledge to fix all your pin problems and eliminate hacks. A lot of people don’t have 1 or the other of those or simply don’t have a stick jammed up their ass about it. It’s not that big a deal, holy crap.

And in the world of ‘hacks’ - the Khar board is about the very least hacky you can get- so much so that I don’t think that’s even a fair term to use. Is it a fire danger? No. Potential to come loose and short circuit something else? Nope. Gonna blow a fuse from using it, or further damage a machine in some way? I don’t think so. It’s a solid field dressing that will last a long time if you need it to. Or it’s a problem solving tool. Whatever you need.

#4364 3 months ago
Quoted from wiredoug:

but your board is also a hack job so half assed techs dont have to do their work properly.. please dont encourage them. there are too many backyard repair guide readers who think they're pinball techs already.
Make them fix it properly.

Hey, I'm one of those "backyard" repair guys! I've only been working on and owning pins for a year, but we all gotta start somewhere. The only way to really learn how to fix and maintain pins is to actually work on them. I don't know if you know this or not, but it's getting pretty hard to find pinball techs of any sort in a lot of places. In my case, I'm not much more than an oil-change and tire rotation guy in the mechanic's parlance. But just like plenty of car owners can't do those things, plenty of pinball machine owners can't do much more than take off the glass.

Not sure how long you've been at this Doug, but my detective skills would tell me you've been in the pinball hobby/biz a long time. Not all of us have the advantage of decades experience or the mentorship of seasoned techs. Also, it's not like there's a school for pinball repair, but hot-damn that'd be something if there was. I'd be all over that!

#4365 3 months ago

It's great to try things and learn but remember you are playing with voltages that can kill or hurt you or burn your house down or cause expensive damage to your game etc. Likelihood is pretty slim but nonetheless a chance. I'd rather get an expert to change my car brakes than have a go myself and maybe have an accident.

So try things if you feel confident and are careful. What khar has is great for the guy who's not sure of himself and will get him out of trouble for the short term at least.

#4366 3 months ago

Hi,

Got recently n°113/155.

On right flipper I have magnetic remanence because of bad quality alloy used.
Also got some mushrooming that I have corrected filling roughtly and changing the soft sleeve damaged... But magnetism remains. I have then to change at least the stop and the plunger.

I know homepin is producing his own parts, but with COVID crisis, I would avoid long deadline to recover... So I'm searching for equivalence part for the flipper... It look like Data East/Sega/Stern SAM but as I don't own such pins, I can't tell... Plunger spec in mm: Diameter 11, total lenght 60, pin drill 5 toward link...

Anyone for help?

3 months later
#4368 11 days ago

Hi,

I got replaced plungers with DE previous 1992 and pin stops with bally to discover the right flipper was still sticking one to 3 seconds... I went to menu for test and discovered one push on the right resulted in 4 to 6 impulsions. Conclusion, no remanence... but electrical or electronical...

I then turned to the opto, surrounded by 2 coils (the walk through and the launcher)... After testing and several cleaning the phenomena disappeared. Strange disturbance as normally this I/O failing...

But with optos you never know ain't it?

#4369 11 days ago

Interesting...

#4370 10 days ago

Just listened to pinball news podcast and homepin teased that their next pin had a sub license from some company that has a 2021 anniversary. Also that it will be a fun, happy title. Makes me think they got some Disney title to license but if that was the case it doesn't really narrow down the license much. It would be funny if they did Alice in Wonderland though.

#4371 10 days ago

Homepin’s first game is listed as the worst pinball game ever made.

So, the sky’s the limit on game 2.
That and at least they actually put out a game.

#4372 10 days ago

The only way is up when people regard your last game as the worst of all time.

#4373 10 days ago

#4374 10 days ago
Quoted from mrgone:

Homepin’s first game is listed as the worst pinball game ever made.
So, the sky’s the limit on game 2.
That and at least they actually put out a game.

I played much worse pinball in GTB, bally and Williams games.
For sure this is far to be the best, but the ball flow is good. Too much multiball for me, but a rule update may change a lot of things... If it comes one day...

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