I have a question relating to the term "HUO". It is my understanding that Home Use Only means just that and even if it was in an arcade or available for "public play" for even a day, it is not truly a "HUO" game anymore.
Would that include taking that machine to Pinball Shows or Expos to be set on free play for the weekend where it is played at will by the public? Does that erase the pedigree of "HUO"?
Curious for the opinions on that.
Quoted from LEE400:Would that include taking that machine to Pinball Shows or Expos to be set on free play for the weekend where it is played at will by the public? Does that erase the pedigree of "HUO"?
I would not think so. 
Quoted from LEE400:Would taking a machine to Pinball Shows or Expos to be set on free play for the weekend where it is played at will by the public erase the pedigree of "HUO"?
Quoted from DaveH:Yes. Any public play removes the O part of HUO.
Quoted from Jgel:I would not think so.
Right there are two answers with differing viewpoints. But to remain literally HUO, if taken to a show the machine must be on display only and not available for anyone to play.
I have purchased games which had been routed for three years or less, and they cleaned up very well. I have purchased games NIB (which became HUO in my game room). I purchased my AFM from a close friend who had purchased it after it had been routed for several years and cleaned it up pretty well but the cabinet decals are faded (I have a new set that I need to install but I keep putting off what I am sure is a long and tedious job). But I have never purchased a HUO machine. And I have never sold a machine (and never plan to).
Oh no...not this again. sry, just had to say it. Let the games begin!
No disrespect to the op's..legitimate question.
Quoted from littlecammi:Right there are two answers with differing viewpoints. But to remain literally HUO, if taken to a show the machine must be on display only and not available for anyone to play.
Then you can't say it was show tested for reliability and it isn't worth as much.
Quoted from LEE400:Would that include taking that machine to Pinball Shows or Expos to be set on free play for the weekend where it is played at will by the public? Does that erase the pedigree of "HUO"?
Pedrigree goes away as soon as those smelly mofos start dripping sweat, drooling, spilling beer, and putting excessive wear around the flipper buttons on your machine.
Quoted from tracelifter:Then you can't say it was show tested for reliability and it isn't worth as much.
Well played sir.
HUO is only used as an indication of condition. To me ... it typically only means the game was never routed. If it went to a show for a day or two, then so what. Again, actual condition is what ultimately matters. I don't care if your game is HUO if it still has dings in the caibinet and has 10,000 plays on it in just a couple of years. The value is based on condition ... not whether you can legitimately claim HUO or not.
Don't get me wrong, I don't have a secret agenda here, I just wanted the opinion of those knowledgeable. I have been to shows with machines on the floor (which I had seen previous years at the same show) that are now for sale that say "Home Use Only". I never thought much about it, but decided to find ask. It seems that the consensus is HUO is just that, no gray area. While a few people stated that it is just a description of condition, most feel that it should mean what it says.
Quoted from ReplayRyan:These are the balls out of a HUO machine (per the Pinsider it came from) that I've been working on. Amazing that there is no (visible) playfield wear. Just other hidden rust, board issues, etc.
HUO doesn't mean squat. And while we're at it, no pinball machine is 'mint' either.huoballs.jpg 83 KB
hmmm...
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