(Topic ID: 73213)

Home for the Gottlieb SYS1-SYS80B guys, Yep it's a club :)

By Gerry

10 years ago


Topic Heartbeat

Topic Stats

  • 6,543 posts
  • 651 Pinsiders participating
  • Latest reply 3 days ago by Sammer
  • Topic is favorited by 324 Pinsiders

You

Linked Games

Topic Gallery

View topic image gallery

IMG_0025 (resized).jpeg
IMG_4872 (resized).jpeg
20240406_124716 (resized).jpg
DSCN0762 (resized).JPG
DSCN0761 (resized).JPG
DSCN0760 (resized).JPG
DSCN0759 (resized).JPG
DSCN0758 (resized).JPG
DSCN0757 (resized).JPG
camphoto_1903590565 (resized).jpeg
IMG_0908 (resized).jpeg
IMG_20240323_185836328_HDR (resized).jpg
IMG_20240323_183723387_HDR (resized).jpg
IMG_20240323_183710851_HDR (resized).jpg
CETK (resized).jpg
bad-girls (resized).png

Topic index (key posts)

3 key posts have been marked in this topic

Display key post list sorted by: Post date | Keypost summary | User name

Post #5634 Gold Wings Settings page Posted by mbaumle (1 year ago)

Post #5771 Arena settings page Posted by BorgDog (1 year ago)

Post #5801 Robowar settings page Posted by BorgDog (1 year ago)


Topic indices are generated from key posts and maintained by Pinside Editors. For more information, or to become an editor yourself read this post!

You're currently viewing posts by Pinsider wisker.
Click here to go back to viewing the entire thread.

#2206 5 years ago

On a Volcano there are four 6 digit score displays, if some one was to accidentally remove the connector from the displays while it was on and it screwed up the other displays what would need to be looked at or done? So a little background a friend was having issues with two of the displays intermediately working and then would lose a digit or segment. I thought to wiggle the IDC wires maybe a bad connection and then maybe try to re-seat the connector not realizing i forgot to mention while game is off (DUH). Well the connectors were removed and reseated with game powered on and now there is Digit#2 on players 1-3 and a few segments missing on all four displays are out. I believe it to be a data problem know more than a power or connectivity issue but correct me if not. From what i read on wiki the digits and segments are controlled by logic IC.

Taken from Wiki: NOTE: Do not connect or disconnect the display connectors or connectors A1J2 and A1J3 on the MPU (right hand side) with the power on! Doing so WILL damage the MPU board display logic ICs.

Display Issue With Multiple Displays
If the problem shows up on two or more displays, suspect one of the two connectors on the CPU board (A1J2 or A1J3), one of the two connectors on the two displays (they are daisy-chained with an IDC connector), or the chips which control the display data on the CPU board. If there is a digit issue, the issue will be present on player 1 and 3 or player 2 and 4 displays. If there is a segment issue, the issue will be present on player 1 and 2 or player 3 and 4 displays, and the status display. If more than 4 scoring displays are used, on games such as Pink Panther, Black Hole, Haunted House, Devil's Dare, etc., consult the game manual for display digit and segment mapping.

The charts listed below, map out each signal to each specific display. The first chart maps the display digit information, while the second and third charts map the display segment information. This information only applies to games where 4 scoring displays and 1 status display are used, although digit group names have been added, if more displays are used. All of the charts apply to System 80 and 80A, but not 80B.
Display Digit Information
Digit Number Display(s) CPU Pin Connection Chip on CPU Board - Pin
D16 (80A only) Players 1 & 3 (Group F) A1J3-16 Z26-8
D1 Players 1 & 3 (Group D) A1J3-1 Z17-4
D2 Players 1 & 3 (Group D) A1J3-2 Z17-6
D3 Players 1 & 3 (Group D) A1J3-3 Z17-12
D4 Players 1 & 3 (Group D) A1J3-4 Z17-10
D5 Players 1 & 3 (Group D) A1J3-5 Z17-8
D6 Players 1 & 3 (Group D) A1J3-6 Z24-2
D13 (80A only) Players 2 & 4 (Group F) A1J3-13 Z26-4
D7 Players 2 & 4 (Group E) A1J3-7 Z24-4
D8 Players 2 & 4 (Group E) A1J3-8 Z24-6
D9 Players 2 & 4 (Group E) A1J3-9 Z24-12
D10 Players 2 & 4 (Group E) A1J3-10 Z24-10
D11 Players 2 & 4 (Group E) A1J3-11 Z24-8
D12 Players 2 & 4 (Group E) A1J3-12 Z26-2
D13 Status (Group F) A1J3-13 Z26-4
D14 Status (Group F) A1J3-14 Z26-6
D15 Status (Group F) A1J3-15 Z26-10
D16 Status (Group F) A1J3-16 Z26-8

Display Segment Group A Information

Segment Display Group CPU Pin Connection Chip on CPU Board - Pin
a Segment Group A A1J2-1 Z19-13
b Segment Group A A1J2-2 Z19-12
c Segment Group A A1J2-3 Z19-11
d Segment Group A A1J2-4 Z19-10
e Segment Group A A1J2-5 Z19-9
f Segment Group A A1J2-6 Z19-15
g Segment Group A A1J2-7 Z19-14
h Segment Group A A1J2-8 Z16-12

So if Digit 2 is out on player 1 and 3, i would want to replace the Z17-6 chip? I have several segment a out as well like a on player 2 any chance someone knows what chips they are? Im pretty sure i am reading chart right. Segment a on player 2 be chipz19-13?Digit and segment chips different? Where can i buy them GPE?

e62cc2d9c06d5d1da5d4d8ecbfa92608325c1040.png (resized).jpge62cc2d9c06d5d1da5d4d8ecbfa92608325c1040.png (resized).jpg

#2208 5 years ago
Quoted from Wisker:

On a Volcano there are four 6 digit score displays, if some one was to accidentally remove the connector from the displays while it was on and it screwed up the other displays what would need to be looked at or done? So a little background a friend was having issues with two of the displays intermediately working and then would lose a digit or segment. I thought to wiggle the IDC wires maybe a bad connection and then maybe try to re-seat the connector not realizing i forgot to mention while game is off (DUH). Well the connectors were removed and reseated with game powered on and now there is Digit#2 on players 1-3 and a few segments missing on all four displays are out. I believe it to be a data problem know more than a power or connectivity issue but correct me if not. From what i read on wiki the digits and segments are controlled by logic IC.
Taken from Wiki: NOTE: Do not connect or disconnect the display connectors or connectors A1J2 and A1J3 on the MPU (right hand side) with the power on! Doing so WILL damage the MPU board display logic ICs.
Display Issue With Multiple Displays
If the problem shows up on two or more displays, suspect one of the two connectors on the CPU board (A1J2 or A1J3), one of the two connectors on the two displays (they are daisy-chained with an IDC connector), or the chips which control the display data on the CPU board. If there is a digit issue, the issue will be present on player 1 and 3 or player 2 and 4 displays. If there is a segment issue, the issue will be present on player 1 and 2 or player 3 and 4 displays, and the status display. If more than 4 scoring displays are used, on games such as Pink Panther, Black Hole, Haunted House, Devil's Dare, etc., consult the game manual for display digit and segment mapping.
The charts listed below, map out each signal to each specific display. The first chart maps the display digit information, while the second and third charts map the display segment information. This information only applies to games where 4 scoring displays and 1 status display are used, although digit group names have been added, if more displays are used. All of the charts apply to System 80 and 80A, but not 80B.
Display Digit Information
Digit Number Display(s) CPU Pin Connection Chip on CPU Board - Pin
D16 (80A only) Players 1 & 3 (Group F) A1J3-16 Z26-8
D1 Players 1 & 3 (Group D) A1J3-1 Z17-4
D2 Players 1 & 3 (Group D) A1J3-2 Z17-6
D3 Players 1 & 3 (Group D) A1J3-3 Z17-12
D4 Players 1 & 3 (Group D) A1J3-4 Z17-10
D5 Players 1 & 3 (Group D) A1J3-5 Z17-8
D6 Players 1 & 3 (Group D) A1J3-6 Z24-2
D13 (80A only) Players 2 & 4 (Group F) A1J3-13 Z26-4
D7 Players 2 & 4 (Group E) A1J3-7 Z24-4
D8 Players 2 & 4 (Group E) A1J3-8 Z24-6
D9 Players 2 & 4 (Group E) A1J3-9 Z24-12
D10 Players 2 & 4 (Group E) A1J3-10 Z24-10
D11 Players 2 & 4 (Group E) A1J3-11 Z24-8
D12 Players 2 & 4 (Group E) A1J3-12 Z26-2
D13 Status (Group F) A1J3-13 Z26-4
D14 Status (Group F) A1J3-14 Z26-6
D15 Status (Group F) A1J3-15 Z26-10
D16 Status (Group F) A1J3-16 Z26-8
Display Segment Group A Information
Segment Display Group CPU Pin Connection Chip on CPU Board - Pin
a Segment Group A A1J2-1 Z19-13
b Segment Group A A1J2-2 Z19-12
c Segment Group A A1J2-3 Z19-11
d Segment Group A A1J2-4 Z19-10
e Segment Group A A1J2-5 Z19-9
f Segment Group A A1J2-6 Z19-15
g Segment Group A A1J2-7 Z19-14
h Segment Group A A1J2-8 Z16-12
So if Digit 2 is out on player 1 and 3, i would want to replace the Z17-6 chip? I have several segment a out as well like a on player 2 any chance someone knows what chips they are? Im pretty sure i am reading chart right. Segment a on player 2 be chipz19-13?Digit and segment chips different? Where can i buy them GPE?

Anyone?

Promoted items from Pinside Marketplace and Pinside Shops!
$ 1,059.00
Flipper Parts
Mircoplayfields
 
$ 1,159.00
Flipper Parts
Mircoplayfields
 
1,999 (OBO)
Machine - For Sale
Ajax, ON
$ 1.49
Playfield - Toys/Add-ons
Daddio's 3D Printed Mods
 
Wanted
Machine - Wanted
Calgary, AB
From: $ 10.00
Playfield - Toys/Add-ons
Toast-Mach1 Mods Shop
 
$ 1.00
Pinball Machine
Pinball Alley
 
$ 20.00
Playfield - Plastics
UpKick Pinball
 
$ 1,159.00
Flipper Parts
Mircoplayfields
 
$ 1.00
Pinball Machine
Pinball Alley
 
$ 1.00
Pinball Machine
Pinball Alley
 
$ 110.00
Cabinet - Shooter Rods
Super Skill Shot Shop
 
$ 12.00
Playfield - Toys/Add-ons
UpKick Pinball
 
$ 8.00
Playfield - Other
Cobra Amusements
 
$ 99.00
Playfield - Other
RGP Models
 
$ 40.00
Playfield - Protection
UpKick Pinball
 
From: $ 1.25
Playfield - Other
Rocket City Pinball
 
$ 12.00
Playfield - Toys/Add-ons
UpKick Pinball
 
From: $ 15.00
Playfield - Protection
UpKick Pinball
 
$ 35.00
Cabinet - Other
Rocket City Pinball
 
1,400
Machine - For Sale
New Brighton, PA
$ 6.00
Playfield - Toys/Add-ons
Twisted Tokens
 
$ 1.00
Pinball Machine
Pinball Alley
 
From: $ 33.00
Gameroom - Decorations
Rocket City Pinball
 
1,650 (OBO)
Machine - For Sale
Towson, MD
From: $ 110.00
Cabinet - Shooter Rods
Super Skill Shot Shop
 
From: $ 33.00
Gameroom - Decorations
Rocket City Pinball
 

You're currently viewing posts by Pinsider wisker.
Click here to go back to viewing the entire thread.

Reply

Wanna join the discussion? Please sign in to reply to this topic.

Hey there! Welcome to Pinside!

Donate to Pinside

Great to see you're enjoying Pinside! Did you know Pinside is able to run without any 3rd-party banners or ads, thanks to the support from our visitors? Please consider a donation to Pinside and get anext to your username to show for it! Or better yet, subscribe to Pinside+!


This page was printed from https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/home-for-the-gottlieb-sys1-sys-80b-guys-yep-i-guess-it-a-club?tu=wisker and we tried optimising it for printing. Some page elements may have been deliberately hidden.

Scan the QR code on the left to jump to the URL this document was printed from.