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I'm looking for a clean Black Hole so I can join the coolest club on Pinside.
=)
-mof
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1 week later
Quoted from Gerry:Great vid of Genesis...
this is how a dialed in Genesis really plays
» YouTube video
Nice...
I really like how the ramps do NOT feed back into the flippers. Nothing easy-mode going on in this game. Looks like a fight from start to finish.
-mof
Dear Gottlieb pinball gods,
I would like to join the sys80 club -- walk through the front door, and march straight down the isle.
I promise to love, cherish, clean, restore, and protect a beloved sys80.
thanks,
mof
Prayers answered! There *ARE* pinball gods afterall !
In da club ! Gotta go update my pin collection ! (And find a neighbor to help me cart it in the garage...)
=)
-mof
Quoted from Gerry:What is it, what is it, what is it !
"Do you dare to enter..."
Had to do it... Will cross-reference back here for people who "do not dare to enter"...
The Black Hole!
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/black-hole-club-members-only
-mof
Special thanks to "Dr. Gottlieb"
for his remote-help to help me get in my first game within an hour of getting it in the garage.
When did HAVING CREDITS become a requirement of using the REPLAY button? LOL... ! That must have been new for 1981. (Yes I was tired off my ass)
-mof
First time sys80 owner, long time listener. Got one dead pop on this BH, other 5 pops seem ok. What's a good strategy to troubleshoot? Also -- what are some basic readings I can take on the solenoid?
With power off, I have .1-.2 resistance between switch lugs on a good pop switch
on the bad pop, I have a wide range from .2 through 17. it keeps moving around. Does this point to a bad coil?
on the coil lugs, power off, good coil is 3 ohms
on bad pop its bad, so I presume bad coil. I guess I have to watch out for this pop locking on... (sigh) which might point to a board issue...
thanks,
mof
2 weeks later
Someone's been infected with the Gottlieb virus. Haha! It's all blownfuse's fault...
He nearly infected me with coveting Spirit, but I think I got out of there just in time. I consider myself lucky that Devil's Dare wasn't ready to play, that might have got me infected.
-mof
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/pagg-2014-for-sale-thread/page/3#post-1404049
Quoted from Gerry:A set of needle nose pliers get right in there...
I had tried mine, and they grip the fat "bolt-like center part" along with the nut. Maybe the pliers need to be extra extra long?
-mof
Quoted from blownfuse:I use a 3/8" drive 7/8" (3" deep socket) on all locks, less headache to use the right tool for the job.
Steve
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-3-8-in-Drive-7-8-in-6-Point-Deep-Socket-H3D6PDP78/202913522
Quoted from Pinballrus:Somebody in this club got a line on an Alien Star for me? Blownfuse got me hooked on his!
The sounds of Spirit are still haunting me, I'd go Spirit over Alien Star hands down.
-mof
2 weeks later
Quoted from CNKay:So when are going to do the pinside BH tournament? No money just scores and bragging rights. I think it would be fun. Yes your going to be on your honor posting scores.
Good idea.
LOL, gimme a week or so to get mine back and up and running!
Apparently we have to have two different tournaments, since we have a few 3-ball and a few 5-ball owners.
-mof
I'm so confused.
Just play whatever game you want to, and don't worry about the score. Everyone gets a hug and a trophy, it's 2014.
-mof
Quoted from CNKay:Interesting so we need to find out what the official BLKH acronym is.
There's an acronym thread. We should post / thumbs up there.
Shouldn't the acronym go to the machine most talked about in a group? (big hurt, black hole, big house, etc.)
-mof
Question:
Which sys80 plays most like Black Hole, but has no upper or lower PF ?
The punchiness, open space, and drops of Black Hole are really nice, wondering what an ideal second Gottlieb would be for me. My guess is Devil's Dare, but I've never played it.
-mof
Quoted from woz:Eclipse- BH with no lower pf
http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=756
Damn, that's cool. 193 units made, I won't hold my breath for one -- what would be the 2nd best choice?
-mof
Is there another sys80 like Black Hole that has pops in the middle of the field, or the outlane, that can hurt you? 3 of the 4 pops in Black Hole are your enemy. I like that.
-mof
1 week later
2 weeks later
Quoted from Jappie:I've been in this hobby for 13 years now. I got hooked on pinball in the 90's and love the classics from those years. But I am starting to love System 80 pins. Always had a thing for rarer pins, and you don't see many early 80's Gottliebs in the Netherlands.
My current collection has 5 Gottliebs, in various stages of repair: Black Hole (US version), Haunted House, Volcano, Rack 'Em Up and TX- Sector. Used to have a Spirit, too. But sold it too early.
I've just recently started a new Youtube channel. 2 videos of my Gottliebs are on there now:
- a Black Hole gameplay video (running on Pascals PI-80 X4):
More will follow! Including the cleaning of my Rack 'em Up. Which is very necessary, as you can see in the ground mod video. So subscribe and 'like'!
Very nice video - your cabinet looks amazingly clean and bright!
-mof
4 months later
Quoted from german-pinball:Here we go (used an swf-extractor to get the pictures from the foto-show). I´ll try to find them in higher resolution:
She is sooooo nice, I love this machine so much
What game is it? Looks really neat.
-mof
1 month later
Quoted from swampfire:I think you'll regret opening this club up to us system 80B nuts.
The photo translites are usually faded and yellowed, but my Hot Shots TL is cleaning up really well in Photoshop. Check out the before/after scans! I'll check in with Steve at PBR tomorrow, but I'm betting that any translites for my game are long gone. I'll probably have my own printed after cleaning it up. Call me a hipster, but I kinda like the photoshopped translites from this era. My friend would call them "80's-tastic".
Nice work!
The carnival worker appears... distracted.
-mof
Quoted from swampfire:Here's a scan of the manual cover. The whole scene is pretty hilarious.
Ha! Sneaky Panda...
-mof
Does anyone know how to change the pitch of the vocal tone in a system 80?
I have a Black Hole with a deep voice. I was wondering if I can raise the voice pitch.
thanks!
-mof
Quoted from hootowls:First note the caution on page 12 of the manual about adjusting the pots on the sound/speech board.
Then check out Fred Swemmer's comments about adjusting the voice pitch on his new board here (old one's the same concept).
» YouTube video
I see the pots, thanks!
-mof
11 months later
Quoted from jkroeck25:Picked up a Black Hole on Saturday for $100. when I got it home I realized it was in better shape than I first thought. I already have it apart and this is going to be my first restoration pin.
Excellent!
-mof
9 months later
Hey sys80 friends,
One of our beloved sys80 gurus, Steve Charland (aka blownfuse), is smack in the middle of a long healing process in long term care. Between chemo and pain meds, it makes it more challenging to focus and feel comfortable, so he's not on the internet these days.
"Hey Steve is great -- he's helped me with my sys80 machine! Get well, brother!"
"Wait, can I help Steve out in any way?"
YES. You can make a big difference in his healing.
He sure misses reading your stories on Pinside. Imagine being off Pinside for a few weeks? He could sure use some healthy doses of pinball distractions like we get every day.
Brother, can you spare 10 minutes of your day?
Please email me your most recent pinball story (doesn't have to be sys80 related, but always nice, right?), and I'll print 'em out with bigger fonts, and I'll deliver them to the hospital every few days.
From Steve, his family, and friends,
Thank you for helping him heal up!
-mof
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/speedy-recovery-mr-charland
9 months later
Picked up a very nice Devil's Dare.
It had a known issue at the last show: no sound.
I am a sys80 rookie.
Any help appreciated: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/devils-dare-wont-boot
[SOLVED]
thanks!
-mof
I have a system 80A drop target problem, any ideas?
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/devils-dare-drop-target-doesnt-stay-up
[SOLVED]
-mof
Next Issue: No voice on Devil's Dare, otherwise sounds are good -- can someone walk me through basic diagnostic tests?
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/system-80a-devils-dare-no-speech
-mof
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