I have been In this hobby for about 5 yrs now i think, LOL.. Without doing the math.

I have had A listers, B listers, and C listers, of all manufacturer's and i have to say, Gottliebs are what i love the most of all the pins i have ever owned...

I would like to take some picks but i just got 3 new titles in and my house looks like a disater area, but i will post some soon. promise

This thread is for all of us to enjoy these titles together, kinda like the show us your EM thread, i'm kinda jealous of those guys LOL...

Just got a Force II, BH, and a Star race, so i am quite busy getting these running up to my standards, but its fun.

lets hear from the rest of you guys...

I'm kinda glad you guys don't collect these, more for me LOL

I must be the only one

Well. I had that game when I was still going through my DMD fascination...

I traded a routed and slightly worn T2 for it even up. at the time I wanted 1500 for the T2 cause I buried so much money in it. had 1700 in it... and couldn't sell it. got the HH in trade and boy was it nice, nice...

Sold it at Allentown 3 yrs ago, for 1700, and put the money twords a ToM...

At the time I owned it, I thought it a bit slow, shallow, and boring, but that was before I knew all of the things I know now to make these games brutaly hard and fast..

Lesson learned.. I would like another, now that speech and multiball are now capable..

I WILL own another

Good fun game, and on my list....

Schusler, what do you have in stock now?

you have nothing on pinside for your collection for me to check out

Hey Scott, Keep me up on the DD progress...

Cant wait to hear all about it...

Jim put on an addition

Your killin me Steve ~!

Jim, gotcha now...

I am Soooo outta room right now its not funny, just let my LCA go to free up a spot, and some coin to put twords the 3 new Gott's I just picked up

Just got my BH set up last night, and I haven't even dialed it in yet and it has been handing me my ASS !

Back before I got heavy into Gott's, I had played 4 or 5 examples of BH that were floaty, not dialed in and slow, boring at best.

Then I played one the way it was meant to be... WOW..

This one I have now is working 100 n ow that I have straightened out the sound issue, and I can see already I will have my hands full once properly shopped and tweaked...

As you said, brutal will be a good description.

you beat me to it !

I didn't know marco offered glass..

I asked Steve at PBR and he didn't and couldn't get any...

Good to know

Hey all,

So here I am telling you guys about my new to me 100% working BH... Ha !

played it quite a bit last night, and all was good, and as I do a lot I left the machine on all night long..

So before work I figured I would rip out a quick game or 2, I started a game, and it served the ball, but the pops didn't seem to be working along with the slings, the flippers worked and all but that was it...

the ball drained then NOTHIN!

so I turned it off, and fired it back up, it does its 5 second boot sequence, and the displays flash the last game score and the HSTD. but no attract mode is running nor any sound..

You can start a game and the diplay shows the 0, but no sound no reseting of the drops etc, and no ball served..

WT hell is going on here... I just got home and haven't started checking fuses or anything yet, but hoping somebody might steer me in the right direction...

Weird is not the word, in all of my SYS80's this one is a first for me...

TIA for any help here...

Never mind got done eating, rang all the fuses F4 was puked.. she is good as new!

For some reason the horror stories of BH made me think the worst...

Guess I should know better

Yep, doing a bit of De-cobbling, and shopping this the way it should have been done....

Its coming out pretty damn nice...

Star race BH, and Force II came from the dame guy..

He's not very good at cleaning or shopping, he can get a dead game mostly working though, I guess that's a start...

but he is a cobbler...

splices for coil changes with wire nuts etc... ughhh had the iron going for bout a week between the 3 games...

nothing dialed in at all, lots of switch adjusting etc...

But I'm getting closer

Yeah its a great game, as Steve says its a stingy bitch, and will teach you a lesson !

P-I-G, your killin me here Asteriod Annie, really !

One that I need

If i only had the room !

and i guess more toy cash...

Fixing all this shitis killing me right now..

PBR is having a good winter month on me alone.. LOL

I would shoot my grandma to get your Spirit... LMK

I never played that one, but am looking forword to trying it out sometime..

And FREE is COOL !

Today is Juice up the Star Race day, bigger coils, cleaning shopping, and switch tweaking...

And swap out power supply day for MGOW...

Got BH stuffed in the lineup, and its playing VERY nasty ! kinda pissing me off actually..

So after all of that, i will only have one down, gotta get a new power supply and MPU for Volcano, as i robbed the MPU to fix MGOW..

Pics to follow here shortly..

I find Star Race a bit of a floaty game, in stock form..

I have put some pitch to it, and i went throught eh assy's and it just wasnt enough...

I didnt do Blownfuse's upgrade but i did put 20095's on all 4 flippers, adjust the pop switchs, and dial in the slings..

Now it plays very snappy, especialy for the EXTRA wide body that it is..

It has actually become kinda fast and furious...

Most of the widebodys, came with 20095's in them, this one had A-17875's..they just werent enough..

Counterforce is a GREAT game !

super simple objectives that are challenging as all hell...

its quite fast properlu set up, and is one of the most rewarding games to do well with..

and CF hones your ball handling skill as well...

Great head to haed game too... my buddy and i play it over and over getting more irritated as we go.. LOL

Its the game that fights you back !

CF's outlanes can be vicious ball gobblers too...

There is ! i am a plagerist LOL

Star Race is getting better

time to try the POWER BALL in Star Race tonight.

Agreed, you can brick alot of shots on this one, but if your on it gets flowing...

My buddy had this game for a number of years, and siad that he NEVER completed Star Race on the vari targets...

And hes a good player too

sounds like it needs to be adopted !

dont take it to a kill center

Tell us more about this story, were you there when the guy was getting ready to pitch it off the back of his truck?

its amazing that you were able tyo not that one slip through the cracks...

CF is a GREAT game.. i love mine

Hey Kevin, good to see you made it here...

And glad you are diging the Dredd !

I really would like to have your Spirit...LOL

LMK if you ever decide to part with it....

I will meet you in buffalo...

And BTW, you can always make a road trip to Syracuse, and play the CF Robo-war, and Volcano i have

Devils Dare gets me super frustrated, setting everything up, ball save on, locks lit then DRAIN !

Just to start over from scratch...Phukque !

LOL...

BH, and MGOW are equally frustrating too..

Timeline is not so much a frustrating game. as it is a n enjoyable game, play for either tic tac toe, or play for bonus ...
lots to shoot for, and i love the mini PF, it never gets old...

Cant wait to check all those vids out when you get going on them...love your vids..

I really, really, want a Bond, but shipping would probably kill that one for me...

Plus for that money, it would have to be pretty cherry...

How rough is it ? and what does it need ?

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Thanks Gents.

yeah, he needs some boards...

I'm starting to miss playing it already

Thanks Chris, the Counterforce is taller than the other 4 so i put it in the middle, have the 2 reciprocating Back boxes on either side of that, to set things off... thats the best i could do with what i have

I parted it out...hows that Focker !...LOL

my next purchase of boards will get her back up and running like a champ again...

Devils Dare is surely one of my favorites for sure... If you can score one dont hesitate, its worth every penny..

I Found force II to be that way too at first, but after a whole pile of tweaking, stripping and buffing the PF, using my secret wax, fresh PBR white rubbers tentioned perfectly, throwing some pitch to it, and making the slings super sensitive, flipper rebuilds, and tweaking the EOS switches, its an ass kicker now.. it used to be too easy to roll over, but now it has very short ball times, and has become kinda brutal...

Big House is nothin but fun,simple ruleset, but challenging none the less...the music rocks and the game is just a trip to play...its a GREAT head to head game...

Your in dude ....

Genie is cool, especially tweaked, and with a powerball....

I LOVE my Bad Girls, its the game my bud and i play the most of while in front of the 80B line up, followed by Robo-War...

We play them all a ton, but BG's gets alot of love.. theres alot going on in that game, and its all fun..

I dont think there's a NON-satisfying shot in the whole game...

Bad Girls will be getting some love today, as will all my 80B's

Of course you are, its an 80B, your in !

I have never had an 80B lift yet, but my PF's were in pretty nice shape, not planked ETC...

some use Freeze spray, but i generaly use heat, and peel it up folded back against itself...and incorperating some goo-gone in the mix... i have had really good luck with little to NO artwork loss, reguardless of the manufacturer .

I want one, if not Steves, when he digs it out an give me a call..

I will want yours focker

An interesting note about Force II, i just read it was the first Gottlieb SS pin to offer multi ball..

Very cool piece of trivia there

Great vid of Genesis...

this is how a dialed in Genesis really plays

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Thats awesome, keep it if ya can, they dont come up EVERY day, and if its in good shape its a worthy catch...

mine kicks my ass daily

I have yet to turn it over or even come close...

If you think CF is wide, you should see Star Race, Genie, and Circus... those are extra wide !

I just happen to have 2 MC's for sale !

Look at my Collection list, you cant miss with any of them !

If you have questions about any of them, fire away, and i will give you to low down !

F- me your right, forgot about that.. what a douche i am LOL

no i dont sorry...

The top bar is a standard width SYS80B, the middle is a widebody SYS80, and the last is the width on the Extra wide SYS80's.. the XW is Star Race..

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If, Steve cant help ya find one, nobody can!

Very cool lb..

What is it, what is it, what is it !

Devils Dare... the perfect first one

Edit after your PM, Duh, Ah, Black Hole... i shoulda got it the first time ..

was still in the morning fog

Tell me what you need

Holy F%$K Kev, if you wanted a project you got it...

Why in the hell did somebody F- that game up that bad...

Tell us the story !

My stomach is rolling just thinking about that project...

WOW !

Its the pop bumper board, if its not the fuse for that particular PBB

and i have never rebuilt a PBB yet, i know it isnt that big of a deal, but i have lots of extras in stock.. so i have just swaped them out when needed...

unless its an obvious wiring issue, or bad fuse 99% of the time its the board..

And do you have a manual ? you will need one owning that game

I dont know what pop it is, but you cna swap a known working PBB into the non working slot, just leave the other one unpluged and see if the said non working pop then works..

then you will know for sure

OMG ! the humanity !

Steve

The " Heat" bouns is for the captive ball at the pop bumper...it adds up fast, and can be worth a ton,,,even be the deciding factor of who wins at the end of game...

Bad ASS!

bonus multipliers are built through drops, and rollovers...

A set of needle nose pliers get right in there...

A long set works nicely if you dont have taht socket on hand...

I wouldn't sell my RW for that, not a chance...

mine is in exceptional shape...

If these 80B games said B/W's on them they be in the 2's now...

And i think alot of them are WAY more fun than B/W's games

shut up stupid ! LOL

BH for bounty hunter or BH for Black hole, what we talkin about Willis?

Devils dare, Volcano, and Mars God of War, are badass pins, that will spank you like a redheaded step child if you let them...

they are all very worthy.

Since you guys both have MC's you can give each other a few OTPHJ's LOL

Yeah i did so what Phucker !

LOL

Mine is wrapped up and buried ATM, or i would...

In your manual it should tell you...

the list of PF parts should give you the ness clues to figure it out...

polish, clean, resleeve the coil, and you should be good to go...

make sure things are tight and not binding when your done..

your balls look shot... you need new ones my friend

Thanks Focker, i love em too

I have external powered subs on every one of my SYS80 games it works great !

its a good game, as is most every gottlieb

I love my Robo War, it is just Too much fun dude...I think i'm goin on 3 yrs with it and every game is just as good as the first one i played..

Nice!

Holy crap Kevin, that game had the shit played out of it... WOW !