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Home for the Gottlieb SYS1-SYS80B guys, Yep it's a club :)


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#4351 15 days ago
Quoted from Insane:

i am running a NiWumph driver and cpu board. But i will test all appropriate devices.

Solenoids
If you have lost a solenoid (it will no longer energize when it should), you will have to trace back the logic to the corresponding drive on the board. On the System 1 board, each drive circuit is protected by a zener diode, and they protect the CPU from a broken driver board. One good way to determine if you have blown one of these diodes in this case, is to remove it.

However, before doing so, it will be necessary to correct the problem that blew this circuit to begin with, because after removing the diode, the circuit protection is lost, and a damaged driver board will then blow ever more complex components. If, by removing the diode, you can restore solenoid operation, you can replace it with a 5v nominal zener diode. If this is not the case, check the operation of the 7416 inverters.

#4352 15 days ago

...also just saw this, old bulletin on the Niwumpf site...

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Mar 17, 2019 - It has happened again - Ni-Wumpf has been challenged in our supply chain. Over the weekend, we identified a bad batch of transistors (MOSFETs) in our latest production run of System 1 driver boards. As before, this has come despite vendor testing of the component and the manufacturer: ON semiconductors. Driver boards shipped since the October 2018 are potentially part of this recall. As you will note in the enclosed picture these ON components have a date code of 1J18AA or 1J18AB. Not all driver boards shipped since then utilize these bad components, please validate this date code before acting. If you examine the board, you might also see that there are one or two Fairchild MOSFETs on the board in the QS5 through QS8 component locations... a manufacturer that we have blackballed from purchasing ever again. As it turns out, ON bought Fairchild, and clearly that specific plant is continuing down the path of poor production quality wherever these came from. Unfortunately, Ni-Wumpf did not realize this acquisition in time. Other ON MOSFETs components of the same designation; FQP13N10, used in our System 80 driver boards are working fine, and there are other System 1 driver boards that are fine as well, it appears to be just this date code run. If you notice that the board does not energize the coil strongly enough to have the target banks reset, this is the symptom of this issue. Please contact us, and arrange to have the boards returned for warranty service. Our apologies for this inconvenience.

#4353 15 days ago

BAD GIRLS TRANSLITE: DO I GO WITH NOS OR AN ALTERNATE?

Restoration & LED conversion is complete. One last decision to make:

1. Alternates (3 choices): https://www.pinball-translite.com/contents/en-us/d1052_Bad_Girls_Pinball_Alternative_Replacement_Translite.html

2. NOS - Shown in attached pic

Wife, believe it or not, prefers the alternates.

What say you, Pinside 80B club members???

Also, does anyone have any experience dealing with member "Pinstein" who sells alternate translites? He's $95 shipped, whereas the guys in the Netherlands (the ones I linked to) are more like $115 shipped. The NOS will be $120 shipped.

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#4354 15 days ago

Original is waaay classier. Plus, the pool table matches the game.

#4355 14 days ago
Quoted from pb456:

...also just saw this, old bulletin on the Niwumpf site...
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Mar 17, 2019 - It has happened again - Ni-Wumpf has been challenged in our supply chain. Over the weekend, we identified a bad batch of transistors (MOSFETs) in our latest production run of System 1 driver boards. As before, this has come despite vendor testing of the component and the manufacturer: ON semiconductors. Driver boards shipped since the October 2018 are potentially part of this recall. As you will note in the enclosed picture these ON components have a date code of 1J18AA or 1J18AB. Not all driver boards shipped since then utilize these bad components, please validate this date code before acting. If you examine the board, you might also see that there are one or two Fairchild MOSFETs on the board in the QS5 through QS8 component locations... a manufacturer that we have blackballed from purchasing ever again. As it turns out, ON bought Fairchild, and clearly that specific plant is continuing down the path of poor production quality wherever these came from. Unfortunately, Ni-Wumpf did not realize this acquisition in time. Other ON MOSFETs components of the same designation; FQP13N10, used in our System 80 driver boards are working fine, and there are other System 1 driver boards that are fine as well, it appears to be just this date code run. If you notice that the board does not energize the coil strongly enough to have the target banks reset, this is the symptom of this issue. Please contact us, and arrange to have the boards returned for warranty service. Our apologies for this inconvenience.

My boards are older than that. Also, the coil is trying to energize, it just doesn't have enough oomph to get it done. I went back through my notes and had a similar problem before, but not exactly the same. I have reached out to NiWumph, as they have been super helpful in the past. I am also trying to trace and check components.

#4356 14 days ago
Quoted from Insane:

My boards are older than that. Also, the coil is trying to energize, it just doesn't have enough oomph to get it done. I went back through my notes and had a similar problem before, but not exactly the same. I have reached out to NiWumph, as they have been super helpful in the past. I am also trying to trace and check components.

Yeah, I saw the note on the site and even though it specifies System 1, it also specified that ON Semiconductor had a bad batch, and that they had "banned" another supplier that ON Semi had purchased prior. Just noodling.

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#4357 14 days ago

Finished restoring the coin door for Spidey.

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#4359 14 days ago

Very very nice work!

#4360 14 days ago

Awesome, love the coin cards..

#4361 13 days ago

Thank you gents. If anybody wants the file for the coin cards let me know.

#4362 10 days ago
Quoted from PinPilot:

BAD GIRLS TRANSLITE: DO I GO WITH NOS OR AN ALTERNATE?
Restoration & LED conversion is complete. One last decision to make:
1. Alternates (3 choices): https://www.pinball-translite.com/contents/en-us/d1052_Bad_Girls_Pinball_Alternative_Replacement_Translite.html
2. NOS - Shown in attached pic
Wife, believe it or not, prefers the alternates.
What say you, Pinside 80B club members???
Also, does anyone have any experience dealing with member "Pinstein" who sells alternate translites? He's $95 shipped, whereas the guys in the Netherlands (the ones I linked to) are more like $115 shipped. The NOS will be $120 shipped.
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Maaan, who has the nos, I've been looking for one

#4363 9 days ago

Two topic:

1) from http://www.ni-wumpf.com/support.html - "Ni-Wumpf CPU's do not work with Rottendog driver boards - there is a component incompatibility with the chips on that product. If you are having issues with the tilt or game-over lamps, this is the most likely source of the problem." Is anybody running this setup and NOT seen problems? Are these problem specific to a particular rev of the two boards?

2) what are the leg lengths on Roller Disco? All four of mine are 28-1/2" (leg only - not including the extension bolt and foot). On my Haunted House they are Front 27" / Back 31-1/4". My bolts are rusted, so I can't adjust right now. But even if I could, I don't think there is enough length on the bolts to make it play right. I currently have a block under the back legs - a 2x4 on top of a 1x4.

#4364 9 days ago
Quoted from PinPilot:

BAD GIRLS TRANSLITE: DO I GO WITH NOS OR AN ALTERNATE?
Restoration & LED conversion is complete. One last decision to make:
1. Alternates (3 choices): https://www.pinball-translite.com/contents/en-us/d1052_Bad_Girls_Pinball_Alternative_Replacement_Translite.html
2. NOS - Shown in attached pic
Wife, believe it or not, prefers the alternates.
What say you, Pinside 80B club members???
Also, does anyone have any experience dealing with member "Pinstein" who sells alternate translites? He's $95 shipped, whereas the guys in the Netherlands (the ones I linked to) are more like $115 shipped. The NOS will be $120 shipped.
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The girls in the alternate aren't even playing pool. They look like stock photos of ladies photoshopped into the setting. Weird, IMHO.

#4365 9 days ago
Quoted from pinostalgia:

Maaan, who has the nos, I've been looking for one

TNT Amusements has one for 200 dollars

#4366 8 days ago

Always get NOS if you can. Did you try PBR?

#4367 8 days ago

I just picked up a load of parts from a former pinball tech that worked for a local distributor. There were about 15-20 Gottlieb system 80 boards/displays which he had repaired on the shelf ready to swap. Trying to gauge a value on sound boards, driver boards, power supplies/displays. All are very clean. Just a sample, I have multiples of each. Thanks for the help.

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#4368 8 days ago
Quoted from pinostalgia:

Maaan, who has the nos, I've been looking for one

Mayfair Amusements has NOS Bad Girls translites. Steve Young does not.

#4369 8 days ago
Quoted from Pinballemporium:

I just picked up a load of parts from a former pinball tech that worked for a local distributor. There were about 15-20 Gottlieb system 80 boards/displays which he had repaired on the shelf ready to swap. Trying to gauge a value on sound boards, driver boards, power supplies/displays. All are very clean. Just a sample, I have multiples of each. Thanks for the help.
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I'm not sure on value but I know pumribby could use some of those for his Black Hole and Haunted House projects.

#4370 5 days ago

I think the sound boards are pretty rare.

#4371 5 days ago

pintech nvram 62256 module works on Rottendog system 80 replacement MPU fine, but you have to remove the battery terminals.

I really dislike having to change batteries periodically on my games so I replace all of them with NVRam where possible.

#4372 5 days ago

I'm having an issue on a Sys80A That resets when entering diagnostics. Sometimes I can press the credit button to get to test 16 and then it resets but most of the time the credit display shows 0 and it resets right away. I thought it might be power so I adjusted the 5v from 5.06 to 5.15VDC.

Any ideas that I should test?

#4373 4 days ago
Quoted from slochar:

I really dislike having to change batteries periodically on my games

The bleed capacitor works well if you have the original boards.

#4374 4 days ago
Quoted from WhiskeyPinball:

Finished restoring the coin door for Spidey.
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that turned out great. Spider is such a cool game with great artwork

#4375 4 days ago

Just some somethin somethins from Uncle Pinball's recent Tim Arnold interview:

He really does have EVERY GOTTLIEB GAME. EVERY SINGLE ONE. EVER MADE.
He won't talk fave machines because then there would be haters.
The new building looks like Scrooge McDuck's money pit!

https://unclepinball.buzzsprout.com/

#4376 2 days ago
Quoted from Pinballemporium:

I just picked up a load of parts from a former pinball tech that worked for a local distributor. There were about 15-20 Gottlieb system 80 boards/displays which he had repaired on the shelf ready to swap. Trying to gauge a value on sound boards, driver boards, power supplies/displays. All are very clean. Just a sample, I have multiples of each. Thanks for the help.

I'd put them on eBay individually. I've sold most boards from a Sys80 set and IIRC, I got $150 for a sound board (with a supposed busted amp and SC-01), $90 for a CPU that needed some work, and $50 for a working power supply.

I would be interested in a display depending on how many you have.

#4377 1 day ago
Quoted from fireball2:

Just some somethin somethins from Uncle Pinball's recent Tim Arnold interview:
He really does have EVERY GOTTLIEB GAME. EVERY SINGLE ONE. EVER MADE.
He won't talk fave machines because then there would be haters.
The new building looks like Scrooge McDuck's money pit!
https://unclepinball.buzzsprout.com/

Even the prototypes? man, thats like, the dream for me LOL

Btw, was there someone who was making Gottlieb SYS80b MPU's? i remember vaguely reading about it but i cannot remember who it was and if they where ever finished.

#4378 1 day ago
Quoted from Luzur:

Even the prototypes? man, thats like, the dream for me LOL
Btw, was there someone who was making Gottlieb SYS80b MPU's? i remember vaguely reading about it but i cannot remember who it was and if they where ever finished.

Swemmer and maybe Flipp (pascal).

#4379 1 day ago
Quoted from Luzur:

Even the prototypes? man, thats like, the dream for me LOL

Yeah. He has every production run game as well as lots of prototype only games. All of them? Maybe not, but at least all of them that even remotely exist. Tim has some great stories and talks about his collection in depth on the old TOPCast episodes.

Quoted from chuckwurt:

Swemmer and maybe Flipp (pascal).

I believe only Swemmer does Sys80b games right now.

#4380 1 day ago
Quoted from radial_head:

I believe only Swemmer does Sys80b games right now.

True. And mine has been pretty dodgy..

#4381 1 day ago

Running a lisy80 board in my Genesis. Couldn’t be happier.

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