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Home for the Gottlieb SYS1-SYS80B guys, Yep it's a club :)


By Gerry

6 years ago



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#3801 62 days ago
Quoted from BorgDog:

be sure and wax good before sticking the new ring down.

Will do. Is this to ensure that the adhesive comes off easily if you decide to pull them up at a later date?

#3802 62 days ago
Quoted from radial_head:

Will do. Is this to ensure that the adhesive comes off easily if you decide to pull them up at a later date?

Exactly.

#3803 62 days ago

Brought Haunted House home today.

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#3804 62 days ago

Does anybody replace their crappy eaten up non-adhesive pop bumper mylar with adhesive mylar rings? Suggestions<

Make sure you wax it before you put the adhesive mylar down and it will aide you greatly should you ever have to pull it. I have taken the old non-adhesive ones off (cut them) then cleaned under them and instead of taking the pop bumper off I cut the new adhesive one in half and applied them half at a time making sure to line the two halves up.

#3805 62 days ago
Quoted from Sputnik:

Brought Haunted House home today

Beautiful pin and a blast to play to boot, congrats on a great pin!

#3806 62 days ago

Finally found a Diamond Lady!

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#3807 59 days ago

Anyone have a proven method for cleaning an 80b translite without causing damage?

#3808 59 days ago

These transistors. Are these consistent throughout 80b games or are there multiple types of these disc transistors used?

https://www.jameco.com/z/MJ2955-Major-Brands-Transistor-MJ2955-TO-3-PNP-Silicon-Power-60-Volt_211502.html

#3809 58 days ago

Had to make a compromise to bring home Spring Break. This machine is one of my favorites but the wife thought it was a little to adult entertainment for the grand kids .....I agreed with her so this is the solution I came up with...had to put clothes on the girl and at the same time I was looking at the back glass and right in the middle there is this kinda obscene dude ....lets just call him Mr. P .....he got censored too cause I'm not gona look at that

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#3810 58 days ago

you might say I like system 80B's finally got Raven in the line up, this one took a lot of work , re-soldered daughter board and a work of wisdom to anyone that tries this (chip quick) you really can not do it well without it , replaced the ram with nav-ram kit, replaced a bunch of caps and resistors an LM324 on the audio card and removed the SP0250 chip that was locking up the audio processor but the game and the sound all seem to work so I really don't know what the function of this chip is.....hey what did I expect for 450 bucks.......this one is getting re themed once I figure out how I'm going to change the ma766 sound unit to something else

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#3811 58 days ago

I hear you brother,I have the bug too

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#3812 58 days ago

Gold Wings is definitely on my short list not that many come up for sale and I think its a great game

#3813 58 days ago

I need a Monte Carlo topper. That thing is ridiculous. Haha

#3814 58 days ago

It's an ok game,the upper Left ramp thingy is impossible to make though

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#3815 58 days ago

Sorry couldn't figure out how to fix the last picture

#3816 58 days ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

I need a Monte Carlo topper. That thing is ridiculous. Haha

send a pm to Chisel he has one for sale

#3817 58 days ago
Quoted from radial_head:

Does anybody replace their crappy eaten up non-adhesive pop bumper mylar with adhesive mylar rings? Suggestions?

All the time!

#3818 58 days ago

System 80b RULES!!

#3819 58 days ago

Just ordered adhesive versions and non-adhesive versions of the pop bumper caps. Thanks for all the help. Next up....

I'm about to triple thick my OG Haunted House Backglass. The part with the most flaking is the on the lower end right next to the lift channel. The lift channel is so ungodly tight that I'm not sure I'm going to be able to get it off....

Should I try harder or just triple thick it with the lift channel on?

#3820 57 days ago
Quoted from the9gman:

Gold Wings is definitely on my short list not that many come up for sale and I think its a great game

Just listed mine for sale

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/100252

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#3821 57 days ago
Quoted from jeep-mustang:

Just listed mine for sale

Great idea for the backglass light. What light is that? Where did you buy it?

#3822 57 days ago

Edit: I just looked it up , did not know that was an original topper , I thought Gold Wings just came with the siren

#3823 57 days ago

Picked this up the other week, seems so alien inside compared to other systems I've worked on. The gameplay looks very basic for the era but I'm sure some cubs fan out there will love it once I rehab it.
I learned that this is the first alpha numeric machine and also the first game with high score initials. Kind of a neat little slice of pinball history.

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#3824 57 days ago
Quoted from Jahkub:

Picked this up the other week, seems so alien inside compared to other systems I've worked on. The gameplay looks very basic for the era but I'm sure some cubs fan out there will love it once I rehab it.
I learned that this is the first alpha numeric machine and also the first game with high score initials. Kind of a neat little slice of pinball history.
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Almost looks like a street level game Gottlieb was selling 1990-1991.

Simple game with no ramps and basic mechs to reduce downtown for pins in more remote locations. Not as expensive as other games of the timeframe or as prone to downtime.

#3825 57 days ago
Quoted from Jahkub:Picked this up the other week,

will be interesting to see what you get into when you fix that. My first guess would be if the thing has a daughter board on game prom 1 usually always find bad or cracked solder joints on the prom chip socket. seeing as that was one of the first 80B systems I would guess that the caps on the display have degraded there are two 10uf caps and one 470uf cap that get weak. On my last unit the 10uf caps read 1pf and the 470 dropped to 360uf. Not to mention the normal battery corrosion stuff

#3826 57 days ago
Quoted from the9gman:

will be interesting to see what you get into when you fix that. My first guess would be if the thing has a daughter board on game prom 1 usually always find bad or cracked solder joints on the prom chip socket. seeing as that was one of the first 80B systems I would guess that the caps on the display have degraded there are two 10uf caps and one 470uf cap that get weak. On my last unit the 10uf caps read 1pf and the 470 dropped to 360uf. Not to mention the normal battery corrosion stuff

I haven't dug far into it yet, waiting on schematics before I even power it up to test voltages. I does have the daughter board, thanks for the tips. Thankfully it has caps in the battery area so other than some dust, the boards look good.

#3827 57 days ago
Quoted from gdonovan:

Almost looks like a street level game Gottlieb was selling 1990-1991.
Simple game with no ramps and basic mechs to reduce downtown for pins in more remote locations. Not as expensive as other games of the timeframe or as prone to downtime.

Looking at the playfield I assumed it was late 70's/ early 80's, heck, even early 80's gottliebs had way more going on than this game.

#3828 57 days ago
Quoted from Friengineer:

Great idea for the backglass light. What light is that? Where did you buy it?

I looked but couldn’t find where I got that LED light from.
I bought it a couple years ago.

Sorry I couldn’t be a bigger help.

Bud

#3829 57 days ago
Quoted from radial_head:

Just ordered adhesive versions and non-adhesive versions of the pop bumper caps. Thanks for all the help. Next up....
I'm about to triple thick my OG Haunted House Backglass. The part with the most flaking is the on the lower end right next to the lift channel. The lift channel is so ungodly tight that I'm not sure I'm going to be able to get it off....
Should I try harder or just triple thick it with the lift channel on?

where did you buy them,i need a few too...

#3830 55 days ago

Just picked up an Arena today! Super excited! I'll get her in the basement this weekend and get her going!
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#3831 55 days ago

Hot take: 90% of Sys80B games wouldn't get as much flack as they do if they had better art packages.

#3832 55 days ago
Quoted from radial_head:

if they had better art packages

Sys80B: Poor Art, Great Sound, a memoir by Gottlieb

#3833 55 days ago
Quoted from Ed150:

Just picked up an Arena today! Super excited! I'll get her in the basement this weekend and get her going!
(Sunlight is hitting the backglass/translite)
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awesome game,if you've never played it before,you'll love it and the cabinet looks great on this one

#3834 54 days ago
Quoted from radial_head:

Hot take: 90% of Sys80B games wouldn't get as much flack as they do if they had better art packages.

don't believe the hype,they're hard to find as it is,and rarely come up for sale.

#3835 54 days ago

Anyone have experience with Victory? I have never been able to figure out how to get the ball to lock into the saucer for the "ball save" feature. I can advance the bonus up to the point of the extra ball light, but every hit into the saucer after that just ejects the ball again. The extra ball light at that location never toggles, but I do get an extra ball light between the flippers. I have tried both the liberal and conservative dip switch settings on the MPU with no change. I am starting to wonder if there is a different version of the game code for this feature.

#3836 54 days ago

Novelty feature on that game? That has to be on or off (can’t remember) to get EBs I think.

#3837 54 days ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

Novelty feature on that game? That has to be on or off (can’t remember) to get EBs I think.

Okay, I will check that out...I know there is a dip switch for novelty.

#3838 54 days ago

The settings on these are wacky. I remember on genesis I think I had to do two different dip switches to get EBs to turn off. They still light, but just doesn’t award it.

#3839 54 days ago

Hello all,

New to this club, just brought home a Genesis this weekend. I have a few questions may you all have answers for:

1) Other than the backglass size which it can be cut to fit, do standard translite trim channels for a Williams/Bally fit in a Gottlieb head or are there Gott specific channels out there?

2) Does anyone know of a good color match paint for a Genesis head. Have some fill work to do.

3) Can the fluorescent tube in the Genesis head be easily replaced with and LED in any way?

4) there is a hole in the top of the head about lock sized. I assume there was some type of locking bar to keep the backglass in place in these? (it actually works out well that it is not there as I will use the hole to mount a Metropolis-themed topper on it).

5) I have seen plasma toppers for the poppers. Does anyone know where those can be purchased?

That's all I can think of at the moment. I'm sure I'll have more questions as I delve into this machine.

#3840 54 days ago

Alright, tips and trips for removing these metal guides without annihilating the veneered side rails?

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#3841 54 days ago

Slide a spackle spreader/joint knife down to work the nails out behind them once you get the head out a little bit you can grab it with your fingers or pliers and pull it out. Once those start to come out there's not much friction holding them in.

You don't want to mangle the metal guide at all once that's messed up it will never sit correctly once it goes back on.

#3842 54 days ago

As slochar says. I remove the rail from the game, makes removing the ball guide easier, as you can get under both sides of the nail.

#3843 54 days ago

anybody know where I can get a SP 0250 speech chip?

#3845 53 days ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

The settings on these are wacky. I remember on genesis I think I had to do two different dip switches to get EBs to turn off. They still light, but just doesn’t award it.

Well, that fixed it! The description of the novelty setting in the manual threw me off...but now I have a working ball lock again. Thanks!!

#3846 53 days ago
Quoted from lhsette:

Hello all,
New to this club, just brought home a Genesis this weekend. I have a few questions may you all have answers for:
1) Other than the backglass size which it can be cut to fit, do standard translite trim channels for a Williams/Bally fit in a Gottlieb head or are there Gott specific channels out there?
2) Does anyone know of a good color match paint for a Genesis head. Have some fill work to do.
3) Can the fluorescent tube in the Genesis head be easily replaced with and LED in any way?
4) there is a hole in the top of the head about lock sized. I assume there was some type of locking bar to keep the backglass in place in these? (it actually works out well that it is not there as I will use the hole to mount a Metropolis-themed topper on it).
5) I have seen plasma toppers for the poppers. Does anyone know where those can be purchased?
That's all I can think of at the moment. I'm sure I'll have more questions as I delve into this machine.

To answer #4 Yes it's a lock hole. Mine has the key and glass locking mech

#3847 52 days ago
Quoted from Inkochnito:

Try in France...

Thanks , guess those aren't cheap and somebody just listed some on ebay for 75 bucks each. As far as I can tell its just used for some percussion lines in the Raven game I'm fixing and at this point I think I'm just going to buy some spark fun boards and tinker with making the sound better. I have been looking at other threads on improving the sound of some system 80B games and it seems like people get so far and then they just quit or disappear (go inactive). It's a real mystery. Yes the system 80B audio codes are complicated and the ones used to change the music are hard to figure out, but it seems like the basic sounds that are from the play field come from sound 1,2,4 and 8, bumpers,switches etc. I plan on using a 4 bit to 16 bit chip along with a randomizer circuit for call outs and basic sounds ......The Music ..I'm planning to trigger off the driver board when certain events happen like when the ramp goes down , the snipers come up etc. I have already figured out how to alter the code and change the RAVEN and Top Commandos to 007 and Top Agents .....the rules are not terrible in this game , the play field will be challenging and it will need all new plastics but I think changing this Machine to .......SkyFall will be worth it

#3848 52 days ago
Quoted from Cherga:

Anyone have a proven method for cleaning an 80b translite without causing damage?

Soap and water, nothing else.

#3849 51 days ago
Quoted from lhsette:

Hello all,
New to this club, just brought home a Genesis this weekend. I have a few questions may you all have answers for:
1) Other than the backglass size which it can be cut to fit, do standard translite trim channels for a Williams/Bally fit in a Gottlieb head or are there Gott specific channels out there?
2) Does anyone know of a good color match paint for a Genesis head. Have some fill work to do.
3) Can the fluorescent tube in the Genesis head be easily replaced with and LED in any way?
4) there is a hole in the top of the head about lock sized. I assume there was some type of locking bar to keep the backglass in place in these? (it actually works out well that it is not there as I will use the hole to mount a Metropolis-themed topper on it).
5) I have seen plasma toppers for the poppers. Does anyone know where those can be purchased?
That's all I can think of at the moment. I'm sure I'll have more questions as I delve into this machine.

Answering number 3... yes, I’ve installed the following on several 80b’s... disconnect the ballast and starter.

amazon.com link »

#3850 51 days ago

Anyone have the measurements of the Backbox glass for Bad Girls?

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