I will try that. Thanks

For those of you wanting to get rid of that nasty florescent tube in your 80B backboxes, this LED setup from Amazon looks great and is super easy to install. You'll need to open up the mounting holes for the tube mount slightly, but the stock bolt will go back in the stock hole for perfect spacing with the included mounts. I clipped the wire right after the plug and used the included wire nuts to connect. You want straight 110v, so get rid of the transformer and starter all together. The 6500k daylight deluxe version seems to make the translite less washed out than the original bulb.

The whole setup costs a whopping $12 shipped if you have Prime.

Link to LED tube: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XFG7RGQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_ECbqEb6TY9Z6M
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Must’ve been reading my mind. I’ve been thinking about this lately. I can’t help but think that the UV produced from the florescent bulb is what contributes to a lot of the faded translites as well.

Question on setting a system 80 Black Hole to free play. I know of the jumper wire diode board solution, would it also work to solder one set of coin switch wires to the credit/start switch in the coin door? I’m rebuilding my coin door and was just wondering.

Or just get the updated ROM:

https://www.flipprojets.fr/Blackhole_EN.php

"The BLACK HOLE (model #668) Pinball that we own has been improved and has now new functions. The main amendment carried out is the SYSTEM 80A translation, with replacement PROM U2 and U3 by a new single EEPROM and the rewiring of the displays.

Features of our Black Hole update:

Talking US version with animated backglass.
Display on 7 digits.
FREEPLAY.
Legacy of improvements of the SYSTEM 80A:
Quickstart (equivalent to the FASTBOOT).
Improved test mode & bookeeping.
New configuration of the DIP (moneyers...).
Limitation of the high-scores (overflow protection).
Deleting of the service printer."

Yeah i do the same when coating siderails, works on all machines

Does anyone have a name or source for the exact large/small springy wire loom hold downs in the 80b back boxes? I'm always breaking them when I have to take a backbox off.

The plastic ones? They're p clips

The regular P-clips have screw eyes on both ends and are thinner...I am looking for the open ended, thicker springy ones. But I think I tracked them down now.

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Those are not what Gottlieb used, although you could cut the second screw tab off.

Anybody have a spare A1J6 Connector housing that they're looking to sell? My OCD is kicking in and hating having a replacement.

Ty

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Posted to the Black Hole Members Club, but figured I'd ask the larger Sys80 club....

Just joined the club, picked up a black hole yesterday....

Aside from a really intense shop job and a the typical ground mods, I do have 1 problem: although the machine I picked up has the spinning disk for the backglass with it, the entire motor assembly to make it spin is AWOL.

Sourcing a new motor, hub and hardware to rebuild the spinning disk motor assembly is easy enough. But the machine is also missing the simple one-piece motor mounting bracket that would allow me to attach the motor to the backbox lamp/board panel in the first place.

Anyone know if that bracket can be found anywhere, or does anyone happen to have a spare one they'd be willing to part with? Thanks for the help.

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Check with PBR Steve had replacement motors I believe and he may also have the bracket. I would call directly and ask as he has many items not listed on his site.

Why not making one from scratch? You just need a sheet of metal and a driller...

Piece of flat stock from Home Depot and a drill, take a hot 10 minutes

Thanks. I realize building one isn't the most complicated thing, but considering I don't own a drill press, center punch, necessary sized bits, etc.... probably doesn't make sense. I'll reach out to Steve directly to see if he has any.

Hi guys,

Picked up a nice haunted house today

Noticed this issue with some cable in the head, any idea of how it should be?

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In case anyone has a need

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/used-gold-wings-plastics-partial-set-

Looking for help with my Monte Carlo from the system 80b gurus. Any help is greatly appreciated

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/gottlieb-monte-carlo-freaking-out-help-please-

Additional question:
2 pop bumper fuses are burst as soon as the game is on; I assume their boards are dead?
Another one is not blowing the fuse but not reacting at all as well.
Fourth one has a seized coil but is registering

Sys80 bumper joy!

Start with looking for bad joints on the popper board connections. Mine had a bunch & blown fuses and after repairing the joints the problem went away.

A couple of questions: I'm putting in a new translight in my Robo-War. It originally had... None, believe it or not. Just a piece of paper printed and literally taped to the glass that slides into the channel. It's missing all the trim. What kind of trim did gottlieb use for the System 80b translights? Also, what kind of lift channel did they use? I'd like to put together some parts, and I want to be prepared before sending in my email to pbresource.

Side note, anyone have a picture of the kind of locking mechanism gottlieb used for the "swing out" display panel? Again, mine is missing ALL the hardware, and I'm preparing to fabricate something if I can't find a drop-in replacement.

Thanks!

Steve did have the trim and channel at PBR but you'll have to contact them and see if it is still in stock. I bought four pieces of the trim from them just last year for my Circus.

Last I checked, a lot was out of stock. It doesn't have to be "the right" trim, just trim that works, honestly. I'll use generic stuff if I have to. I'm more concerned about the lift channel. I want to make sure the lift trim is deep enough.

It always says it's out of stock. Just call them or email them and they will tell you what hardware etc. you'll need. If you can't get the trim I'll look through my stuff and see what I have left and send it to you if needed. Do you just need the normal 3 pieces of trim? They do have to be cut down length wise unless you have ultra widebodies like mine then they're just a tiny bit short.

Yea, I just need the 3 pieces, and the lift channel piece that runs along the bottom. I appreciate you looking, I'll check with steve first, since I have to order a bunch of other stuff from him anyway.

Okay but if you need it I only have 2 pieces left, so after you check with PBR let me know if you need it. Surely someone would come off the other piece. The lift channel may be a problem I don't know.

Thanks again! I'll definitely let you know. Worst case scenario, I'll be attending a TON of pinball shows this spring, and I'll be bound to find what I need there if need be. No worries there.

Now, the lock situation is a different story... If anyone has any methods as to what they use to replace the locks on this style of backbox, I'd love to see it. I've tried a few of mine, and I haven't been able to get any of them to work properly.

All checked, all soldering reflowed, same behaviour

I have bought the lift channel at allentown.

Check the Pinwiki for details of upgrades and repairs to the pop bumper driver boards.

Unplugged the boards, does it still pop fuses?

Since I found a source for all the sizes of these wire harness straps, I am offering pinsiders the ability to buy a set of these that will cover your entire back box with a couple spares. I am waiting for the smallest size yet, then they will be available to ship Monday. $10 for a 14 piece set plus $3 for first class shipping.

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Nope, it does not.

System 80 popbumper boards are getting their +5V supply voltage from the switch matrix connector J6 at the CPU board. If this connector is damaged -often by a leaking battery- the popbumper boards will behave in a weird way - retracting the coils for example when powering up.

Thanks, will definitely check that!

So, J6 was fine, except for the weird wiring in the pic a few posts above.
Your post motivated me to dive into the schematics and correct the wiring for both J6 & J5 => have 3 bumpers back to life !!
Now only have the upper playfield bumper missing. Maybe this one really has a dead board ? Will try to identify which board it is and test with one of the others

I had no idea these were a thing until recently, but damn they are nice to have.

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Missed one.

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I'm not a big pre-80B guy, but if I do find one to own...I'll definitely get that one too!

Anyone have a SC01 chip laying around, or sitting on a spare board in the closet?

SOLD!

Parts - Wanted

Anybody have a SC01 chip? Archived

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2020-02-24

Langhorne, PA

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http://www.gameroomrepair.com/ICparts/ICparts.htm#SC01A

yikes!

They come up for sale on the board here time to time.

Genesis and Monte Carlo owners- Do you know if your playfield windows bolt entirely through the playfield (attach with a nut on the bottom), or do they use wood screws into the wood? I am wondering if I can make playfield windows for those games that will not have the exposed flat heads on them, the same way they did Bad Girls and Teed off? I am guessing Monte Carlo has the same size window as Teed Off since it is the same mech.

Might be better off buying the whole board off CL if the above $135.00 is the only option.

Thanks for the link. Well now it’s obvious why somebody pried it off the board before my buddy bought it, and then trickled the board down to me.

Would highly recommend just buying a new S/S Board from Fred Swemmer. I just purchased one for my Black Hole, and it truly is a nice piece of work.

Yeah, probably just should’ve went that route in the first place. Already dumped $100 on this board.

I had Swemmer boards in my HH, and they were great. Although there was an issue with a few solenoids from his driver board. Original board fixed the problem.