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#3251 46 days ago
Quoted from animesuperj:

Picked up a Genie over the Thanksgiving weekend.

Where are the pictures?

#3252 45 days ago
Quoted from PinballManiac40:

Where are the pictures?

Only one I have offhand for now. It's still sitting in my garage, gotta move things around in the basement to find space. Top of the head will need a little fixing / cleaning as water must have dripped on it or something. Luckily the rest of the cab and head are in good shape, so should clean up pretty nicely.

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#3253 45 days ago

Anyone know how to turn off extra balls and set special to points for a dragon running a ni- wumpf board?

#3254 45 days ago

not sure it's necessarily possible to do that. according to the manual in the Option menu if you set Specil Credit to 1 it awards specials instead of extra ball, reading further you can also set Specil Overrd to 1 and then additional specials will award points instead of credits. I don't see any way to set the first special to points however.

manual can be found on their website, http://www.ni-wumpf.com/System1CPU.html but depending on what firmware version you have it may not have all the options of the current manual posted.

#3255 45 days ago

Ok, who in here has a Royal Flush Deluxe? Does yours have this music??

Mine sounds NOTHING like this??

#3256 45 days ago
Quoted from SeaLawyer:

Ok, who in here has a Royal Flush Deluxe? Does yours have this music??

Mine sounds NOTHING like this??

bought mine as a project and have not gotten it running yet (have yet to work on it), but am curious as to the answer. Also curious as I see you also have a Royal Flush, how do the two compare play wise? not necessarily rules, but feel, speed, etc.

#3257 45 days ago
Quoted from BorgDog:

bought mine as a project and have not gotten it running yet (have yet to work on it), but am curious as to the answer. Also curious as I see you also have a Royal Flush, how do the two compare play wise? not necessarily rules, but feel, speed, etc.

Well, I prefer the RFD. My kids prefer the RF, because they like the chimes. The RFD plays WAY faster. And you can do more traditional flipper techniques on RFD than you can with RF. Also, on RF, once you knock all the cards down, that's it--no more points to be had from knocking cards down, where RFD resets the cards, and you can just keep hammering away. For RF, you really have to try to get your jokers first before knocking down cards. With RFD, I don't worry about it as much because once I get them all down, I can usually cycle through 2 or 3 rounds of cards. Also, RF doesn't have the center pin, so it's a bit more brutal. And the outlanes on RF have no rubbers, unlike RFD. Also, RFD has better artwork over all, both on the backglass as well as the playfield. The arch on RF has no art at all, whereas on RFD, it's lit art. If I could convert RFD to chimes, it would be hands down the clear winner between the two, even with the electronic display instead of the reel scoring.

#3258 45 days ago
Quoted from BorgDog:

not sure it's necessarily possible to do that. according to the manual in the Option menu if you set Specil Credit to 1 it awards specials instead of extra ball, reading further you can also set Specil Overrd to 1 and then additional specials will award points instead of credits. I don't see any way to set the first special to points however.
manual can be found on their website, http://www.ni-wumpf.com/System1CPU.html but depending on what firmware version you have it may not have all the options of the current manual posted.

Axl was asking on my behalf.
I just got info that the Dragon machine I saw ina stream where extra balls where disabled, (hitting the extra ball targets did awrd points not extra ball) they have a Janine board. This one currently has a Ni-Wumpff. I would think they do exact the same thing, but that might not be the case?

The special award is no that critical, but really need to turn off extra balls.

#3259 45 days ago
Quoted from SeaLawyer:

Well, I prefer the RFD. My kids prefer the RF, because they like the chimes. The RFD plays WAY faster. And you can do more traditional flipper techniques on RFD than you can with RF. Also, on RF, once you knock all the cards down, that's it--no more points to be had from knocking cards down, where RFD resets the cards, and you can just keep hammering away. For RF, you really have to try to get your jokers first before knocking down cards. With RFD, I don't worry about it as much because once I get them all down, I can usually cycle through 2 or 3 rounds of cards. Also, RF doesn't have the center pin, so it's a bit more brutal. And the outlanes on RF have no rubbers, unlike RFD. Also, RFD has better artwork over all, both on the backglass as well as the playfield. The arch on RF has no art at all, whereas on RFD, it's lit art. If I could convert RFD to chimes, it would be hands down the clear winner between the two, even with the electronic display instead of the reel scoring.

thanks! chimes are pretty awesome, I've converted a couple of my system1's to chimes that didn't originally have them, I like it much better.

#3260 45 days ago
Quoted from Edenecho:

Axl was asking on my behalf.
I just got info that the Dragon machine I saw ina stream where extra balls where disabled, (hitting the extra ball targets did awrd points not extra ball) they have a Janine board. This one currently has a Ni-Wumpff. I would think they do exact the same thing, but that might not be the case?
The special award is no that critical, but really need to turn off extra balls.

they both basically re-programmed the whole game independently and added extra features, Janine typically added more options than the ni-wumpf, so it's quite possible it can do that and the ni-wumpf can't. I've used both, and both work great.

#3261 45 days ago
Quoted from BorgDog:

thanks! chimes are pretty awesome, I've converted a couple of my system1's to chimes that didn't originally have them, I like it much better.

Hard to argue with that! Can it be done on a System 80A???

#3262 45 days ago

Do you have to find chimes from a parts machine, or does someone sell that unit? I wouldn't mind switching my Joker Poker over.

EDIT: I guess I haven't looked inside Joker Poker to verify if it is a sound board or chimes... But I have a Pinball Pool as well

I did find this chime remake
http://www.chimeunit.com/

#3263 45 days ago

I bought some gottlieb chimes off e-bay. Joker poker came with chimes from the factory, pinball pool is one of mine I converted over, along with Count-Down.

I'm going to guess no on the system 80a to chime conversion, but maybe someone else knows for sure, it's certainly not wired for it like the system 1 machines are.

#3264 45 days ago

Looking for SS Joker Poker light board and harness for backbox. Striking out in my wanted ad, hoping I'll have some luck in the thread lol. Please PM me if you have something, thanks!

#3265 39 days ago

I finally got my Diamond Lady playing but the issue I'm having is that that my coils don't seem as snappy as they should be.

I can make all the shots but even with completely rebuilt flippers they seem to be on the weak side. And my right target bank sometimes has trouble resetting even after cleaning/rebuilding it. Even pops and slings seem like they are at about 80% of where they should be in terms of power. I have good 5V and 12V going in to the boards.

Any ideas of what I should be checking and what the likely culprit could be? thanks

#3266 39 days ago
Quoted from MikeS:

I finally got my Diamond Lady playing but the issue I'm having is that that my coils don't seem as snappy as they should be.
I can make all the shots but even with completely rebuilt flippers they seem to be on the weak side. And my right target bank sometimes has trouble resetting even after cleaning/rebuilding it. Even pops and slings seem like they are at about 80% of where they should be in terms of power. I have good 5V and 12V going in to the boards.
Any ideas of what I should be checking and what the likely culprit could be? thanks

Did you do the ground upgrade at the transformer?
Did you check the rectifier(s) next to the transformer?

#3267 39 days ago
Quoted from Inkochnito:

Did you do the ground upgrade at the transformer?
Did you check the rectifier(s) next to the transformer?

Thank you for the advice!

I did re-flow the solder on the ground PCB boards near the transformer if this is what you are referring to by the transformer ground upgrade? I haven't checked or replaced the rectifiers yet. i will check them tonight and report back.

#3268 39 days ago

Is it worth it to rebuild a system 80b power supply? Game works great with new power supply but when I install the old original one, the game does really weird things.

#3269 39 days ago
Quoted from Inkochnito:

Did you do the ground upgrade at the transformer?
Did you check the rectifier(s) next to the transformer?

I checked the rectifiers and they were all in the .4-.45 range which may be a little low? I ended up putting in new bridge rectifiers and a new cabinet capacitor and it seemed to help with coil power. It may still be a little weak but the drops have been able to reset everytime so far and everything seems a little peppier. Thanks again the the recommendation.

#3270 39 days ago
Quoted from Tomahawkjim:

Is it worth it to rebuild a system 80b power supply? Game works great with new power supply but when I install the old original one, the game does really weird things.

It may just need a new pot. Those are notoriously flaky. There aren't many components needed to rebuild so it would probably be worth doing

#3271 38 days ago

I'm hoping someone can help me with my Alien Star. My issue is that it still has what I think might be the original battery (it's orange). I want to replace it with a working battery, but I think I need a diode or something.

Does anyone have instructions on getting that replaced and installing the diode? I'd go with NVRAM, but I don't have the skills to install a socket.

I was going to look at the Pinwiki, but it's still hacked.

#3272 38 days ago
Quoted from Spyderturbo007:

I'd go with NVRAM, but I don't have the skills to install a socket.

Chris Hibler installed my NVRAMs and he did a fantastic job. Contact him and he will do you right.

#3273 38 days ago
Quoted from RWH:

Chris Hibler installed my NVRAMs and he did a fantastic job. Contact him and he will do you right.

Thanks for the recommendation, but I'd prefer to go a different direction. I didn't have very good luck sending out boards for my Super Orbit.

#3274 38 days ago
Quoted from Tomahawkjim:

Is it worth it to rebuild a system 80b power supply? Game works great with new power supply but when I install the old original one, the game does really weird things.

The System 80 power supplies are easy to rebuild and rock solid after doing so.

#3275 38 days ago

Sent you a pm. I generally use the little disc capacitors just because it's clean and easy.

#3276 38 days ago
Quoted from Spyderturbo007:

I'm hoping someone can help me with my Alien Star. My issue is that it still has what I think might be the original battery (it's orange). I want to replace it with a working battery, but I think I need a diode or something.
Does anyone have instructions on getting that replaced and installing the diode? I'd go with NVRAM, but I don't have the skills to install a socket.
I was going to look at the Pinwiki, but it's still hacked.

Skip the battery and just install a memory capacitor. Simply remove the battery and solder in the capacitor.

ebay.com link » Electric Double Layer Memory Back Up Capacitor 1f 5 5vdc 2 Pcs

#3277 38 days ago
Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:

Skip the battery and just install a memory capacitor. Simply remove the battery and solder in the capacitor.
ebay.com link » Electric Double Layer Memory Back Up Capacitor 1f 5 5vdc 2 Pcs

I still prefer the NVRAM over the capacitor. If you leave the game off for a while with the capacitor you lose high scores and settings. Not an issue with NVRAM.

#3278 38 days ago
Quoted from Robotworkshop:

I still prefer the NVRAM over the capacitor. If you leave the game off for a while with the capacitor you lose high scores and settings. Not an issue with NVRAM.

As long as you play your games semi-regularly the disc capacitors work well and are much easier to install. I use the same model that Mad_dog recommended above. I drill a small hole for the negative lead and put the positive lead in the + hole. then run a jumper under the board to the negative hole.

#3279 38 days ago
Quoted from MikeS:

Sent you a pm. I generally use the little disc capacitors just because it's clean and easy.

I have had problems with disc caps, so my go to are..

1) NVRAM
2) Phone batteries 3.6V with remote cable, $12 for a four pack from Amazon.

amazon.com link »

#3280 38 days ago
Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:

The System 80 power supplies are easy to rebuild and rock solid after doing so.

Does the trim pot need to be rated for 1watt? I see a bunch of 1/2W available.

#3281 38 days ago
Quoted from Robotworkshop:

I still prefer the NVRAM over the capacitor. If you leave the game off for a while with the capacitor you lose high scores and settings. Not an issue with NVRAM.

I've had a mem cap in my Counterforce.
I hadn't turned it on for more than 10 months, high score was still there....

#3282 38 days ago
Quoted from Robotworkshop:

I still prefer the NVRAM over the capacitor. If you leave the game off for a while with the capacitor you lose high scores and settings. Not an issue with NVRAM.

I have a HH in my vacation house That I play once or twice every couple months. It has a memory capacitor installed and has kept my high score for 5 years now.

#3283 38 days ago
Quoted from Tomahawkjim:

Does the trim pot need to be rated for 1watt? I see a bunch of 1/2W available.

I'm not sure without looking it up (not at home now). If you're looking to buy a kit just get one from Big Daddy. Works great and has all the parts you need.

#3284 38 days ago
Quoted from Tomahawkjim:

Does the trim pot need to be rated for 1watt? I see a bunch of 1/2W available.

I installed a 1 watt replacement. The only difference is that I used a precision 10 turn. It should last longer and be more stable than the original. I wouldn't recommend or install the 1/2 watt version.

#3285 38 days ago
Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:

I have a HH in my vacation house That I play once or twice every couple months. It has a memory capacitor installed and has kept my high score for 5 years now.

I had one in Hollywood Heat that would last a week.

For the $3 I just assume go with a remote & rechargeable battery.

#3286 37 days ago
Quoted from MikeS:

I checked the rectifiers and they were all in the .4-.45 range which may be a little low? I ended up putting in new bridge rectifiers and a new cabinet capacitor and it seemed to help with coil power. It may still be a little weak but the drops have been able to reset everytime so far and everything seems a little peppier. Thanks again the the recommendation.

Update. I checked against the manual and the wrong coils are installed in my right drop target bank and left slingshot. Coils that are far too weak compared to what's supposed to be in there. I think this will solve my issue.

#3287 36 days ago

GOTTLIEB CIrcus...I do own Genie and have the oppertunity to buy Circus. When looking on it it looks really similar to genie wich makes me hesitat. So is it much like Genie or is it a go for it?

#3288 36 days ago

I have a Circus and I love it, great shots, sounds are of the time but I do like the little calliope ditties, and offers a good amount of shot variety. I've heard others say it's similar to Genie and to be honest I don't get it other than some similarities in PF layout. IMHO they play completely different. Circus is super wide with the PF area damn near a full 3 inches wider but with all that extra space it still play fast and loses no flow. I will never get rid of my Gottlieb super wide bodies.

#3289 36 days ago

Does anyone know where I could order and what the correct grommet is for a kick save on devils dare? It's the one that keeps the plunger straight on the backside of the mech. Imagine this has to be fairly similar between other sys80 games.

I already ordered one from pbr, Steve only had older ones; so the rubber was fairly hard. It broke apart when I tried to install. Not a big deal, he stated that up front and was cheap. I see a bunch of different grommets at Marco, but not sure which would be correct. Possibly other places that might have it?

#3290 35 days ago

Does anybody want this? A woodworker friend of mine made me a couple replacement doors for a Caveman project I did. I only used one. It is a great fit, just needs painted. I hate to throw it away. I'll send it to anyone who is willing to cover shipping (probably $20 UPS). Hit me up with a PM.

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#3291 34 days ago

i thought the replacement 80b displays sold by boston pinbals were too expensive, can somebody chime in.

#3292 34 days ago
Quoted from pinostalgia:

i thought the replacement 80b displays sold by boston pinbals were too expensive, can somebody chime in.

They are expensive but I think the only led/new option?

#3293 34 days ago
Quoted from Andreas:

GOTTLIEB CIrcus...I do own Genie and have the oppertunity to buy Circus. When looking on it it looks really similar to genie wich makes me hesitat. So is it much like Genie or is it a go for it?

Circus is somewhat similar to genie, but seems to have a little better shots/coding- the biggest difference is that it let's you play it, there's not a bunch of SDTM drains like on Genie

#3294 33 days ago
Quoted from northvibe:

They are expensive but I think the only led/new option?

Why is that,how hard would be to manufacture?

#3295 33 days ago
Quoted from pinostalgia:

Why is that,how hard would be to manufacture?

Someone with gottlieb love and pcb design would have to spend time to make them. The original displays are 69v while led are usually 12v. So am adapter has to be used. I just bought two sets of Boston displays and it comes with a power injector and you pull the 69v fuse

#3296 33 days ago

The lock holding the display panel broke on my Robo-War. Trying to rig in a new lock is proving to be a real PITA. Does anyone have any solutions/a specific lock set that works with that “swing down” style of backbox on these games?

#3297 33 days ago
Quoted from mbaumle:

The lock holding the display panel broke on my Robo-War. Trying to rig in a new lock is proving to be a real PITA. Does anyone have any solutions/a specific lock set that works with that “swing down” style of backbox on these games?

I had ordered one from PBR
http://www.pbresource.com/locks.html
If no one chimes in, ask PBR which parts you need.

#3298 30 days ago
Quoted from pinostalgia:

i thought the replacement 80b displays sold by boston pinbals were too expensive, can somebody chime in.

I feel like it's a fair price for what they had R&D. I ended up putting some in a victory and they look like a million bucks. They are a tiny bit larger and look awesome.

#3299 29 days ago

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#3300 29 days ago
Quoted from supermoot:

I feel like it's a fair price for what they had R&D. I ended up putting some in a victory and they look like a million bucks. They are a tiny bit larger and look awesome.

funny you mentionned that,i'm planning on putting it in my victory as well .that's how it come off the container...( missing one display)

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