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Holy Pinball BATMAN!!!


By Drano

3 years ago



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#1 3 years ago

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Hey Everyone!
That’s right! We’re doing it.

After years of procrastinating, I’m finally getting off my backside and trying to pull together this dream project; a ’66 Batman pinball re-theme.

Just to get things started off on the right foot:

-I am not selling Batman pinball machines and have no plans to produce these (aside for a couple of examples for those involved in the creation of this project)

-I do not have an agreement with the license holders. This is a fan project only and should fall within the realm of “fair use” for purposes of this project.

-Only Williams Fan-Tas-Tics were harmed in the creation of this project

Some Background:

It was October 2014 and I was at the Ottawa pinball show where a local collector and EM guru had brought his Jetsons pinball machine; a re-themed Jet-Spin. It was complete with all new art, custom backglass, MP3 triggers for custom callouts but, most impressive of all, it had modified playfield mechs and features that had been wired and engineered to change the game and introduce new rules.

He’d done other similar re-themes in the past, including Loony Toons and Herbie the Love bug. Needless to say, I was inspired! I knew that I had to create a classic (Adam West era) Batman pin. Not sure why this never got done… but I was doing it.

I started hunting for a suitable and inexpensive donor machine and found a Williams Fan-Tas-Tic. Not a very popular or even well-known game. In fact, it seemed downright ugly. However, it had some great EM features. It was a 4 player, it had a cool roulette wheel in the playfield and it also offered player activated kickback, ball gate and extra ball! The game also has a very unusual pop bumper configuration between the flippers; only seen in games like Spanish Eyes or a prototype Freedom. I immediately started thinking about how to alter these to the theme. The roulette wheel wold become Penguin’s umbrella. The 3 stars the needed to be collected for extra ball would be Riddler’s clues. The kickback was a batarang and so on.

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I enlisted the help of our EM guru and, after showing him this mock-up that I cobbled together in Photoshop, he agreed to help me modify the game. We altered some of the shots, added a vari-target, replaced stand-up targets with drops and even relocated some of the saucers. It was a pretty great feat that he was able to do all this and make it work.

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The one thing that we could not figure out how to do was to create a bat-cave gobble hole behind the newly added drop targets. I wanted to create a subway that would direct the ball back to the shooter lane via a VUK of some sort or a flap (think Centaur/pitch and bat games). The mass of relays and steppers under the machine just made it nearly impossible. And, despite his efforts, the game just never seemed to quite come together and game play was suffering. I eventually just set it aside and, for nearly 2 years, it has sat there neglected while I played around with other projects.

There were rumors floating around for a year or so that Stern might use this theme to do a VE edition of their BDK title, so that also made me cool my heels a bit.

Fast forward to today….

#2 3 years ago

Act 2:

We had met the guys from FAST pinball several years ago at expo (they were introduced to me by Kevin Kulek of Predator Pinball infamy). Several guys I knew were really hot on the idea of creating a custom game using the FAST hardware and the Mission Pinball framework that they have been partnering with.

We embarked on the idea of creating a custom modern design and had gotten to the point of a very rough flipping white-wood. However, this project was proving to be extremely complex and the time I could afford to devote to creating ramps and custom mechs was getting smaller and smaller. So, my friend (who is also the programmer) asked about my dormant Batman project. He had been also playing around with some FAST hardware and working closely with MPF on some of his own ideas, but really wanted a nice easy project that we could both get up and running fairly quickly.

So, with that, we decided that my EM Batman project would now become a hybrid. While the vintage feel of an EM fits great with a Batman ’66 theme, the freedom of modern hardware will allow us to do everything we want and more!
So, we set about to find a duplicate William Fan-Tas-Tic, start laying down some basic rules and get working on the last few physical modifications.

Yesterday we located the 2nd machine! Not an easy task.
So, without further delay, to the batcave!!!

We’ll keep updating the thread until we’re done. So don’t forget to tune in.
Same bat time… same bat thread.

Some eye-candy from the Batman '66 comics to tide you over

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#3 3 years ago

Egg-sellent!

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#4 3 years ago

Looks like the correct Catwoman. Julie Newmar FTW!

#5 3 years ago

Bad ass Drano! Good luck

#6 3 years ago

Awesome homebrew! Classic Batman seems like a perfect theme for an EM. Hope those K standups are temporary, though, haha.

#7 3 years ago

Awesome! I like the choice of donor machines. Also and interesting choice of theme.

#8 3 years ago

Cant wait to see this unfold!

#9 3 years ago

Holy duplicate idea Batman!

I also had the same idea about a year and a half ago. I got inspired by the Goonies retheme and decided to do a retheme as well. I'm a die hard batman 66 fan and when they released bluray boxset and I started watching them again it cemented the idea. However like you experienced things get sidetracked and I didn't really start getting serious about until the last few months.

I didn't start a thread about it yet because I was scared I would royally screw it up so I was waiting until I got a little farther along to make sure I could actually do it. I guess I better stop dilly dallying and start my own thread.

Here's a preview of my playfield which is almost ready for my custom overlay. Can you guess what machine I'm using for a donor?

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#10 3 years ago

LOVE the '66 Batman series. Definitely a dream theme for me. Will enjoy following this thread immensely!!!

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#11 3 years ago

Love it! I just finished binge watching the entire series.

#12 3 years ago
Quoted from docquest:

playfield which is almost ready for my custom overlay. Can you guess what machine I'm using for a donor?

Repurposed Diner. Nice!

#13 3 years ago

The Batman movie has some absolute gems. If you limited yourself to content from the movie you'd still have excellent pin with a fantastic story. Also I'm a huge fan of bat shark repellent.

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#14 3 years ago

Interesting timing for these projects! You might want to wait a few months...

With that said, nothing can match the fun and labor of love it is to work on your own custom machine! Good luck guys! Looking forward to seeing the results!

#15 3 years ago
Quoted from BD_Designs:

Interesting timing for these projects! You might want to wait a few months...

I've heard rumblings of Stern doing a vault edition of Batman The Dark Knight rethemed as classic 1966 Batman. Are these just random rumors or is there a real chance it could happen? This year is the 50'th anniversary of the show and I've seen a lot of classic batman stuff getting licensed over the last year or so.

#16 3 years ago
Quoted from trunchbull:

Awesome homebrew! Classic Batman seems like a perfect theme for an EM. Hope those K standups are temporary, though, haha.

Oh yes! They will spell C-A-V-E once we're done

It just didn't seem right to do this as a modern game. I think an EM/SS hybrid will be very fitting.

Also, Fan-Tas-Tic is such a quirky game. I think it's a good match for this theme.

#17 3 years ago
Quoted from BD_Designs:

Interesting timing for these projects! You might want to wait a few months...
With that said, nothing can match the fun and labor of love it is to work on your own custom machine! Good luck guys! Looking forward to seeing the results!

We'll, I've waited 2 years already

If stern does decide to change the art package on an old game, that I wouldn't really be in the market for anyway, it shouldn't have much impact.

This will be something very different and, since we're not really selling it, I think it really won't matter to us.

It'll be great fun and a learning experience that will fuel our future desire to create our own custom modern pin one day.

#18 3 years ago

It is a great idea for a theme and I would want to play yours and Sterns.
The more the merrier.
Good luck with the build.

#19 3 years ago
Quoted from docquest:

Holy duplicate idea Batman!
I also had the same idea about a year and a half ago. I got inspired by the Goonies retheme and decided to do a retheme as well. I'm a die hard batman 66 fan and when they released bluray boxset and I started watching them again it cemented the idea. However like you experienced things get sidetracked and I didn't really start getting serious about until the last few months.
I didn't start a thread about it yet because I was scared I would royally screw it up so I was waiting until I got a little farther along to make sure I could actually do it. I guess I better stop dilly dallying and start my own thread.
Here's a preview of my playfield which is almost ready for my custom overlay. Can you guess what machine I'm using for a donor?

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Looks like you're well underway.
I kept thinking that someone MUST be working on this, but for so long there was nothing... but I always imagined there were several of us out there. I think it'll be awesome to see how everyone interprets the theme.

Good luck with your project!

#20 3 years ago
Quoted from docquest:

I've heard rumblings of Stern doing a vault edition of Batman The Dark Knight rethemed as classic 1966 Batman. Are these just random rumors or is there a real chance it could happen? This year is the 50'th anniversary of the show and I've seen a lot of classic batman stuff getting licensed over the last year or so.

Yes, that's exactly what I've heard as well. The rumor is that it will be announced in June, but I wouldn't be surprised if it slipped to July with some of the delays earlier this year. Regardless, I'm very excited to see how the art package looks on the game!

#21 3 years ago
Quoted from Drano:

We'll, I've waited 2 years already
If stern does decide to change the art package on an old game, that I wouldn't really be in the market for anyway, it shouldn't have much impact.
This will be something very different and, since we're not really selling it, I think it really won't matter to us.
It'll be great fun and a learning experience that will fuel our future desire to create our own custom modern pin one day.

I totally understand and agree that a vault edition shouldn't stop you from working on this project at all! I love seeing homebrew projects like this and can't wait to see how yours turns out! Keep up the great work!

#22 3 years ago

Following this thread!!!!!

#23 3 years ago
Quoted from BD_Designs:

The rumor is that it will be announced in June, but I wouldn't be surprised if it slipped to July with some of the delays earlier this year.

This could be really cool for the home brew versions. If Stern got custom callouts from Adam West or Burt Ward then pinball browser could be used to get access to them.

#24 3 years ago

These are by no means polished, but our programmer is looking for something to do while I tinker with the last little bit of geometry.
These are just some very amateur 'schematics' outlining the location of solenoids and switches to help him map out the game.

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If you look closely at the tables you'll see that there are features to be added that are not represented in the latest photo posted yesterday.

One of the major changes is that the captive batmobile is gone and we will now leave that right orbit shot open to feed the saucer. I plan to put a single drop target there though. The drop target will make the bat-phone ring. This will likely just be a red phone image on a flat plastic above the target with a blinking light behind it and accompanied by an audio clip. It will essentially signal that locks are lit for multi ball (oh yeah... did I mention we're adding in a new trough to support 3 balls?

To the left of where that batmobile is now, I want to put a newton ball shaped like a bomb. I've talked to a few guys about modifying one with a spigot and fuse and getting it black like those 'black pearl' balls, but so far haven't found anyone willing to do it for me.
The newton ball/bomb will have a few uses in game-play, but the most fun will be a "get rid of the bomb" hurry up. We'll be using one of the EM reels to actually count down a hurry up value. Should be pretty cool!

#25 3 years ago

And also some preliminary rules.
We did our best to make good use of all existing (and new proposed) game features.

The objectives are still a little old school. No modes or anything like that.
The main objective will be to collect bonus by beating henchman and then collecting arch villains for bonus X.
Other main scoring opportunities will be via 'dynamic trio' multi ball and the 'bomb hurry-up'.

Submitted for your approval:

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#26 3 years ago

Wow, that's an awesome ruleset, you might even have enough to put together a wizard mode!

#27 3 years ago
Quoted from docquest:

I've heard rumblings of Stern doing a vault edition of Batman The Dark Knight rethemed as classic 1966 Batman. Are these just random rumors or is there a real chance it could happen? This year is the 50'th anniversary of the show and I've seen a lot of classic batman stuff getting licensed over the last year or so.

If a vault edition "Batman" is released, you have just assured my divorce or at least, impending celibacy.

#30 3 years ago

What a awesome project cant wait to see the outcome good luck to all involved.

#31 3 years ago

Subbing to this one!

#32 3 years ago

You have my attention Drano ! Looks very cool .

#33 3 years ago

I see a lot of people referring to the series as Batman '66. I know first season was good but there wasn't much bad about the '67 and '68 season. So why not just call it Batman the TV series? That's what we called it.

#34 3 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

I see a lot of people referring to the series as Batman '66. I know first season was good but there wasn't much bad about the '67 and '68 season. So why not just call it Batman the TV series? That's what we called it.

It's probably due to the new comic series entitled Batman '66
Also a much easier way to differentiate from any other franchise.
I think there was also an old black and white TV series that predated the Adam West batman... although I doubt many would remember that one

#35 3 years ago

You mean the movie serial? I was hoping you would do that one next!

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#36 3 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

You mean the movie serial? I was hoping you would do that one next!

Gotham City must have been just a one horse town back then!

Aaron
FAST Pinball

#37 3 years ago

We spent a good portion of the weekend at Pinfest in Allentown. Lots of great parts available so we stocked up on drop target banks and other bits and pieces.

Last night I dug around underneath my Centaur to figure out how they launched a ball into the shooter lane from underneath the playfield. I want a similar effect once the ball enters the BatCave gobble hole and travels to the shooter lane via a subway ramp.

I think I'm pretty satisfied with the playfield modifications so I'll probably pull everything apart over the next week and start stripping out the playfield.

#38 3 years ago

I had some time to fool around today.

I took some cab measurements and did up some CAD drawings that we can also use to start the artwork process.
This is just me fooling around. I want to create a scalloped 'batwing' effect on the backbox frame.

You can also see how we will be modifying the score reel placement. The left reels will count up score while the right one will be used to show bonus accumulate and count down... as well as maybe being used during the "Bomb Hurry-Up" mode to count down the value. The single (or double) middle reel will be used for other stuff. Maybe to indicate which player is up or used as a countdown for timed shots like villains... maybe even used for the match display.

Chris suggested using labels all over the game; similar to what you would see on the Bat Computer and inside the Bat Mobile console.

I've added in things like the "Bat Plunger" and "Bat Start Button" etc...

Next we will play around with some stencil ideas for the cab. We want to keep it looking a bit vintage after all

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#39 3 years ago

Love the '66 Batman show and these projects are so cool! Good luck!

p.s. I also love to play this in the casinos!

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#40 3 years ago

Nice! I like the center graphic on that slot!
Looks like a re-themed wheel of fortune

#41 3 years ago

If the graphic in the center you're talking about is the guys in the Batmobile, it's actually a huge screen that has TONS of great, NEW imagery and lots of great new animations. It's really a neat thing to watch. They really went all out for that slot machine, as much as you realistically can for a 50 year old show.

#42 3 years ago

Here is a review of it....

I have a feeling the VP of Marketing being interviewed has never seen a batman episode.

And some gameplay....

#43 3 years ago

Finally, our programmer extraordinaire posts ^^^

For anyone keeping score, Monkeybug is the other (obviously more shy) half of this dynamic duo

Maybe we can get him to talk a bit more about his experience with the FAST hardware and Mission Pinball Framework so far.

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#44 3 years ago

This thread has me so excited for a possible Stern release. Anyone know about this actually happening?

#45 3 years ago
Quoted from thundergod76:

This thread has me so excited for a possible Stern release. Anyone know about this actually happening?

Ummm... Okay

I'll be sure to post any stern updates the second they happen. Glad to be of service

#46 3 years ago
Quoted from Drano:

Ummm... Okay
I'll be sure to post any stern updates the second they happen. Glad to be of
service

Lol. Well you kinda know what I meant. There's always one of two members here that seem to be in the know. Didn't mean to take anything away from your awesome thread.

#47 3 years ago
Quoted from thundergod76:

This thread has me so excited for a possible Stern release. Anyone know about this actually happening?

#48 3 years ago

Hey Drano,

While looking for stuff on my Batman project I found these. Mini accessories like bat-phone, shakespeare bust, batarangs, bat-bombs, etc. I think you mentioned you want to reference the bomb sequence from the movie.

you can buy a whole set from toys-r-us:

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=54368326&cp=&parentPage=search

http://content.webcollage.net/apps/cs/mini-site/toysrus/module/mattel/wcpc/1432240395216?channel-product-id=54368326&enable-reporting=true&report-once=product-button-click&showtabs=&suppress-site-prefs=&wc-target=&from-pp=

or individually from here:

http://figurestoycompany.com/classictvbatman8inchactionfiguresaccessorypack.aspx

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#49 3 years ago

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#50 3 years ago
Quoted from docquest:

Hey Drano,
While looking for stuff on my Batman project I found these. Mini accessories like bat-phone, shakespeare bust, batarangs, bat-bombs, etc. I think you mentioned you want to reference the bomb sequence from the movie.
you can buy a whole set from toys-r-us:
http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=54368326&cp=&parentPage=search
http://content.webcollage.net/apps/cs/mini-site/toysrus/module/mattel/wcpc/1432240395216?channel-product-id=54368326&enable-reporting=true&report-once=product-button-click&showtabs=&suppress-site-prefs=&wc-target=&from-pp=
or individually from here:
http://figurestoycompany.com/classictvbatman8inchactionfiguresaccessorypack.aspx

Those are sweet!
I think we're going to avoid putting any 3D toys on the game though. I'd really like it to maintain the appearance of a vintage pin even though it'll be running modern hardware. We'll have to content ourselves with artwork and creative use of plastics I guess

We are definitely having a bomb feature. The plan is to modify a newton ball to look like the bomb and apply a hard black finish to it. There is a hurry up mode planned where you'll have to hit the captive bomb/ball shot to collect. I'm planning a nice 'explosion' graphic for the plastic behind it

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