Not only heavy... but lacking the required space between the CPU board and the speaker panel in front of it in the head. I always thought those connectors on the design were just there to be cut off after the fab.

If you were in a country that charged tax rates like Germany... youd might think differently.

The guy continually demonstrates he doesn't think laws or limits apply to him and continually tries to operate rouge. that's the point the other poster was raising.

And yes, selling with PayPal and asking people to use gift payments is against the T&C - because he is again trying to cheat someone else.

The irony of this coming from you is hysterical.

White Knight he is not. He sees what other people have done, dreams up how he'd do it, and then gets his joy by redesigning other people's work in his own tastes... then offers to sell it (presumably because it helps fund his interests). Rinse, repeat. He cares not for who he copies, what intellectual property he copies, or what corners he cuts screwing others along the way. Cheating Paypal is just par for the course.

It's sad to see people to willing to support such behavior purely because you look to gain from it yourselves.

The story here is much larger than this single mod...

completed projects >> new projects

The original trunk has GIVE - you are just trying to make your trunk more rigid... and doing that against the steel ball you will fail. The PCB is fiber.. but will crack.. as will all the solder joints.

Check the connectors to the driver board and reset them. The wiggle action is pretty subtle... not much

I really think you are heading the wrong direction here. You are trying to mount something large, heavy, and delicate to the PF which you move in and out of the game, slam... without a proper hard mount and trying to play with straps and plastic. All while the game is designed to have a a panel mounted to the bottom of the cabinet... which would be a much more safe and stable mount point. All these concerns about spacing, etc all go away if you just replace the mirror.

No, it's just some people want what they need... regardless of the morals or ethics involved. As long as THEY get what they want... they don't care.

It's been this way since this guy announced his colorDMD solutions that clearly just ignored all legalities and morals... yet the people who just want a cheaper DMD replacement don't care.

And here we are ages later and people don't recognize the pattern yet again. The guy likes to design hardware... he'll do it over and over again instead of focusing on shipping and supporting the product. Case in point here... the need to design and build a test board..

The guy tells tall tails, half truths, and obscures the truth all the time... but most here don't care because he's promising them what they so desperately want.

Can't show off your latest HW toys doing that tho... There is a reason his DMDs have gone through like 4 processors before they've even shipped in volume... and it's not because the newer processor is needed.

The pattern has been clear for years.. yet people ignore it.

That's a nice self-serving loop you got there. "no complaints!" because of No customers! It's easy to point out no rash of complaints if you've only got a handful of customers.

Whatever.. you guys can keep holding out for your dream. But the guy has laid it all out on the table for ages now. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make 'em drink!

I'm sure you'll be busy designing hardware for that too instead of finishing the current thing :p

Beware that the LVDS cable interface is the portion that Heighway had the most problems with for it's in-playfield display. When the PF monitors 'die' - its almost always a fault at the LVDS wire interface. They are pretty delicate... I can't speak for the root cause analysis of why the HWP ones failed so much, but one has to be careful with them, especially any strain the interface may take due to how the monitor is mounted. The HWP design had the monitor securely mounted in a frame, but still had issues.

Or that he continues to make promises and claims he doesn't follow through on...

It's not about being owed anything.

I just have to laugh when people keep ignoring the pattern and expect something to magically be different with this product. The good news is he contracted out the software - else it would never get done. Just hope he eventually contracts out the video development too... otherwise you'll see three new hardware projects started and prototyped before you get your multimedia.

Unless you come up with another challenge that needs a new piece of hardware to solve it... you face this risk.

TL : DR - this guy likes designing hardware - that's what he does. He'll post every revision he does as if it's done... then realize he could do something different, so he'll revise the design again... because the actual hardware work is what he likes. He's a horrible product owner and has no focus on actually shipping product. It's the design and build that he loves so much - he has no counter part to balance him out. So in that respect, he is a JPOP.

On top of that, he is a hypocrite when it comes to claiming people steal his ideas, while he happily incorporates other people's work into his own without credit or due. He would run around slamming and backhanding other people's products as a way of promoting his own work. He blatantly ignores other people's Intellectual Property rights. He throws stones and then cries himself the victim.

But hey, people want their creature mod so lets just cut the guy some slack...

It's a jab that another cheaper alternative was 'announced'... and inferring it will kill the market for his yet to be completed product

Way overkill. Just use a typical brick transformer. Self contained and just wire the output side to whatever harness you need

Don't worry, you'll soon see 'the final version' along with all the comments about the changes they are making and are waiting to see the results

Saw 11 new posts... expected another "final" version with a list of changes still to decide... thread did not disappoint

Because of the history with the guy... at least now he's paying(?) other people to do the work so it has a chance of getting done. He loves doing hardware prototypes... and his pattern has been to always keep finding the next revision to make instead of just finishing the project. And when he gets close, he starts another project, which they keeps him from finishing the prior one... and the cycle continues. But we get to see like 30 “final” versions of each along the way

I'll tell you now... get ready for a steady stream of updates on his pop bumper cap project... and new revisions of the hardware of the DMD panels... The guy likes designing and playing with hardware.. not running a business.

You act like this is the first time round with this guy. If people would do some simple homework maybe they'd understand why other people are not as gung ho on all the promises.
It's amazing what effort people will go to bury their heads just to get the product they want.

And FWIW I work in product development as well... which is why the alarms won't turn off in my head. 15+ years in software lead roles and getting stuff DONE and out the door. This guy has been the poster child of engineers without an adult in the room to keep the business and marketing sense in the discussion.

You are simply willing to give him the benefit of doubt... thats fine... but i would really suggest you do some homework on the patterns before you lay yourself out like this.

agreed - this is like a modern phone game... not a 50s americana drive-in...

You don't buy a truck to just get wheels tho

This thing you buy just to play videos...

a reasonable alt model was created and used - just the holograms made from that effort failed and I forget why that project just died. Pretty sure those holograms faded quickly.

Two weeks ago... it was only connecting the cables...

he uses ignore when his spin has no effect.

Yet for 3+ years now people keep shielding the same behavior... over and over and over.

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If it was anyone else and their project.. I'd agree.

What is comical tho is how many people bury their head in the sand about how he operates and what seems to motivate him. All anyone needs to do is read the DMD panel thread and this thread's future was told from the day he started it.

The obvious takeaways people just refuse to see... instead just arguing "hes not taking your money"...

1 - Recycle other people's work
2 - No respect for other people's IP
3 - Loves designing boards
4 - Will always call something 'final' and two lines later talk about the changes he is going to make
5 - Takes great pride in showing off his hardware designs
6 - Promises just one more thing left... and then immediately adds more to the project goal
7 - Dismisses any technical challenges/inquires if people don't buy into his hand waving
8 - Loves hardware - Generally can't finish software.
9 - Will always come up with something else to do (next project, next tweak, whatever) rather than finish the complete package

Finally after so long with the DMD panel he got smart and contracted out his software... but only the editor... but I guess that guy can't do firmware work... so he's got an editor with no functioning color firmware on his board.

This time for the holomod he contracted the art out... but what's missing again? Oh yes, proven firmware and a complete package validated on the target.

What's the latest post? Oh yes, what other new things he's going to add to the product that was declared final how many times?

It's a broken record... yet people are just blinded by their eagerness to get the result.

Lol... 2 page long post labeling other people criminals and some rant about purity...

Yet he has no problem violating colordmd patents and illegally distributing copied roms.

This guy lives in his own bubble and dismisses other with hand waving when he's challenged.

Show us the mod in your creetch already...

Love it.. 'trolls' because we don't blindly follow the reality you try to project.

How about instead of spending 25 mins to type that post you plug in that creech of yours and your harnesses you've had working on your bench for many months?

The reason you get called out is because you blow smoke, throw stones, and live in a glass house.

If you want only his view of the universe... You are in luck - just follow this link https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/hologram-mod-for-creature-from-pinballsp-is-under-development?tq=&tu=pinballsp

But if you think you'll be in a better position by listening only through his reality distortion field... you deserve what you get.

Because he loves designing hardware! He runs proto boards non-stop which costs money. He sources chips (which at least beyond getting samples.. costs).. and he plays with his toys. Best I can tell... this is just where his hobby satisfaction comes from. He sees a problem.. and loves to design a board to address the issue. Rinse, repeat.

Just look at his what.. 3? iterations of processor on his DMD design. Why? Because there is a cool new toy.. lets see if we can use it..

We all blow money on our hobbies... his hobby/passion overlap seems to be PCB design. He just doesn't understand where design needs to stop to actually make products.

I bet you loved JPOP and hilton's pumping posting.... all sunshine all the time!

No no... what he needs now is a wifi controller... so he can upload that software over the network

Look for the new board revision soon!

This is the closest we have seen the mod to a game...this was posted SIXTY days ago...

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only this guy makes a point to say he paid for express shipping.... but still isn't in a hurry to install the part and show it

Standard MO for this guy... people were warned for years... yet people wanted to keep labeling us trolls or haters.

pinballsp is already was strongly in the camp that IP rules do not apply to him. So he's got nowhere to stand there.

And... the weakness of his intercept model plays out as expected.

Those playing along... notice compy is monitoring the data bus to the av board while pinballsp monitors the playfield. So pinballsp is doomed to have to try to blindly replicate game logic without enough points of reference to really get it right. It is a loosing battle given all the different features he wanted to tap into vs sticking to the subset that are easily isolated.

Pretty videos... just always going to be glitchy

One mod keeps within the limits of the methodology... another... did not.

a week ago from his fb page...

The final changes to the final product that was final some final time ago.

Oh and needing parts... because you know... why not again...

But he spent time fixing for sorens rom... instead of working on shipping things

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HolomodSP, Hologram kit for Creature.

Since the previous video I've been working to make the product compatible with Soren's new ROM Rev 5.

When I posted the last video the product was already fully finished, tested and working on Rom L-4, the last one Bally / Williams made in the 90. s. Unfortunately a new official Rom has been presented, and I had to work about the firwmare to make it work.

This new Rom, modifies the management of the lamp matrix, among other things, and it didn't work well with my firmware, for handling quite different signals from Rom L-4.

As of today the modified firmware is already and supports both Roms, L-4 and Rev 5. I have also been playing on the machine to prepare several videos where you can see the product at stake, I will not find it easy to trigger all the videos because I'm not an experienced player, in the tests I've been doing I managed to download the videos of Cola, Hotdog, IceCream, PopCorn, SnakBar, Kiss, Paid and sometimes the Move Your Car. I think it will serve to see how the videos interact, the times between them, although this could be user configurable.

Last week I received the final plates, yes, I had yet to make some changes to electronics, I think it's the third or fourth version I do, but this is already the final one, it's tested and works well, so the ordered in quantity and panelized.

They are 30 panels, each with 4 plates, to be able to manufacture 120 kits. First batch will be 20 units which are the screens I have here. Delivery time for first batch, 1 to 2 weeks, and for second batch 2 to 4 weeks (to be confirmed with screens supplier).

Final prices will be posted next week, will be a little more expensive because some components have grown up. For example, screens are now between 50 % and 100 % more expensive, it's been the most expensive thing due to the pandemic.

What's left of the week I'm too busy putting plates together for a customer and I don't think I can spend more time on the product.

Next week apart from announcing the ultimate prices, I think I might already start accepting orders, I have all the materials to assemble the plates for the first 20 kits.

Leaving some images of the tests on the machine with the latest video from the Cave, and the panelized plates to mount the kit.
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Compy posted teaser info including his new bracket and said they had licensed miked content. Just look in the twightzone mod thread

Looks like it will be fully announced in the coming week or two

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/new-mod-twilight-zone-interactive-backboard-display/page/11#post-6049711

His price...

BASIC 5 videos 415 Euros
HALF, 10 videos, 495 Euros
FULL, 24 videos, 595 Euros.
Optional extras:
1.- SD card, to store custom settings and update firmware. Price 16 euros.
2.- USB flash drive, to store your own videos to replace the kit with (in a future firmware version). Price 18 euros.
3.- Additional video pack: will communicate when available, 7 more videos are planned.
4.- Android / WIFI app: not yet available.
Sound cable is no longer an optional extra, will be included free in all kits. When firmware supports sound, those interested can activate this option by paying an extra cost to be determined.
Shipping costs:
Spain / Portugal --- > 12 Euros
Countries of the European Union-> 26 Euros
USA / Canada -> 49 Euros.
Other countries --- > Contact for quotes

Today.. 495 euro = 609 USD plus any FT fees.. 49 Euro shipping for US (60USD).. so probably $668 + 3% = ~$688 USD for the middle tier.

Wifi, sound, and user replaceable videos are not yet done... nor his 2 last videos.

So the finished but the last videos... was of course.. not yet finished. Pretty sure compy's announcement forced him to open sales.

Good question... normally one's domestic prices would include VAT - which could be subtracted off for overseas buyers. But that assumes a company is operating legitimately, and collecting VAT/etc as they are supposed to. He's probably not - and he doesn't mention any variances depending on where you are. It's a perfectly valid question you could ask of him on his facebook page if you are interested.

He claims he has stock for 20 units... but infers he hasn't ordered displays for the next batch yet. So I assume those next batches would be 'order and wait'.

He has at leas been consistent in shipping stuff he takes money for - it's just not normally what he set out to offer

But they are important design differences. A cabinet mounted one has to be compatible with the playfield moving... rotating and sliding. While the pf mounted alternative must fit within the hardware on the pf.

No one wants to smash their lcd while trying to drop their pf in

My point being... there are some pretty serious constraints... and you have to build your solution(s) for them. Depends on if they want to build both alternatives...

You did before you turned on the mod....

The OPs hypocritical “the rules dont apply to me” position on IP and copyright laws has been known for years... but posters who don’t want to hear it cry “troll” verse facing the truth.

People say “broken record”... while they continue to turn a blind eye to what is being pointed out. I have no empathy for those that will eventually get burned by their selfishness.

Just wait for 86pixel's kit... it will actually ship and be supported, and already uses the much liked MikeD content.

I just can’t believe the twipy snub for this mod

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'first batch' is so much fun to keep redefining.

Back on Jan 5th, it was 20 units he already had parts for and shipping in 1-2 weeks. Everyone here was waiting for reviews from people who supposedly bought then, expecting shipment then.

There there was the day in March where again... a 'first batch' was promised complete and shipping in 1-2 weeks. Then at end of march redefines 'first batch' to now be extended to 30 units... (but as we know from history... still didn't have the parts then, because he doesn't have them now either)

I guess people haven't been quick to pay up when he keeps requesting payment.

Because this guy is slime. It's not just 'oops, something came up' or genuine mistakes. It's a pattern of stretch the truth, selectively decide what matters, deceive, bury facts, and rewrite history when it doesn't serve him. He is harmful to buyers.

It used to just be he was an engineer who was passionate about his interests and openly shared his concepts and attempts at putting them into reality. At first it was just the running joke of 'what final version' is this one? Because for every 'final' version there would be 2-3 more versions within a week. The guy loves playing with building circuit boards to do anything. But left unchecked he's a problem - because he constantly blows smoke to cover his past and is taking people to buy into his projects with his version of reality.

You can't tell what is real, an estimate, or just wishful thinking. And that's not even getting into his lies and attacks on others for his prior projects. I always lol inside when you go back and read all his attacks on others for requiring a license to unlock their software and protect their assets.. and boasting about his needs no such 'burden'.... and then he rolls out this product with license keys to protect his assets. Funny how that works when the shoe is on the other foot.

This kind of deception shouldn't go challenged - because you'll never get the straight juice from pinballsp.

What's your excuse for generalizing and making this thread about me vs the facts? If you have a specific beef, bring it up and if I'm wrong, I'll happily accept correction and say so. But if your issue is I don't just pray for rainbows and unicorns - piss off.

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look for that plug cord on a TV, VCR, DVD player, etc... they commonly use those jack style... laptops too

If you won't do your own work, why do you challenge people who have, and already done the effort to cover it? You stroll in at the end uninformed and want it all rehashed for you.

There are standards to measure if the redrawn piece is substantionally similar, or if it has enough originality to be considered a new creative piece. The changes here are quite significant, but all of it really doesn't matter... because pinballsp doesn't care and has proven so in the past.

And there were tons of lawsuits and bad blood over much of that. Funny you left that part out…

And my comment points out that the behavior was NOT considered 'ok' and people did in fact stand up and fight it. Just like russdx was opposing the behavior. So true, Pinballsp is not the first, nor a standout in that regard, but russdx was not making any such claims... he was pointing out the dirty and hypocritical behavior -- which was also done (with legal force too) in your highlighted examples.

His comment wasn't really about IP protection - it was about the selfish nature of people who will morph to whatever is needed, leaving any morals or standards behind, as long as they get their toy. A behavior repeated time and time again in this hobby.. and not just about copyright.

People like pinballSP are even worse because he doesn't just ignore copyright, he actively lies about it to try to represent himself as innocent. People who make unlicensed reproductions/etc is one thing.. its often just a practical reality of the world.. but those that lie and deceive to achieve their endgame - That's scum. And when people willingly turn a blind eye to that just so they can get their goodies... yes, that does reflect negatively on that person.

Examples where they can't track game status accurately with the implementation. There was a ton more of these issues in skypilots video too.. but by now people are going to be happy with the limitations or not.

Your point highlights why the animation shouldn't have been done to highlight an individual letter... but he didn't realize it at the time.

That's a relative easy problem to fix in software... cool off timers and prioritization allow you to easily define when you should abort a video. I wouldn't expect problems with say the same snackbar video being triggered three times. The harder problem is things like game state... knowing when a video is actually appropriate to play or not. Like, knowing during multiball you want a different set of priorities, etc.

We saw a lot of this in the earlier videos... this is where the 'distracting' vs 'on point' difference will play out.

Short version is... this mod has a lot more videos. That would be the main reason. On the other hand, the videos may be more obtrusive. I would think your choice would be primarily driven by the desire for the style of the videos you see from this kit. The huge price is the turn-off.

Personally I think the better choice would be to wait till compy's mod is done, which will allow you to load your own video, and then maybe get the best of both? I doubt compy's is going to cost as much as pinballsps.

People can see it for what it is and make their own decision to buy... you no longer have to rely solely on future promises (well, you do if you want all the features he's sold.. but not for the basic premise). The so called 'haters' don't spam threads and they never 'hide'. It's just there is nothing to say at this point... if you like what he's offering, more power to you. It's your money - make your own decisions.