Very cool. I hadn't seen this thread. Thank you for pointing me to it. I hope one of these projects is completed soon!

These websites shows you all the various sizes of a WPC machine https://www.flippers.be/basics/101_pinball_dimensions.html and http://user.xmission.com/~daina/tips/pub/tip0473.html

The easiest way to get it into your place might be to fold and strap the headbox down (750mm height from cabinet base to top of folded head), stand the machine on it's end (removing the legs) - the headbox is the widest part at 740mm. A trolley will be able to get it into the elevator if the doorway is at least 750mm wide

According to http://www.pinballowners.com/planeta9999 you own 29 machines and don´t know the dimensions of a standard WPC cabinet ?

Headbox down will fit in a elevator if it does not, daaaaam that’s a small elevator lol

Then measure your doors for 29inch, I had to take doors off frame in my UK house to fit head through without removing it. You can also just remove headbox hinge bolts and twist slightly if it does not fit.

As of 2013...

Nothing is ever for certain, always promises coupled with some wiggle room.

It’s almost like that’s the best way to keep all of us here this long.

I predict he’ll get his own CFTBL, but it won’t be before the end of the year (setup and in his place, I mean). This mod won’t get sold before he gets his own CFTBL, either. How long after he gets it setup is anyone’s best guess, but at this rate I say we’re at least a year or more out. And even once it does start getting sold, it still won’t be fully functional then, if ever.

I actually want to be proven wrong. But his other projects combined with the fact that this one still has that mystery question of “will it work” with the way he’s triggering events make me think probably no. He’ll get bored and start the next project before this one actually gets completed, just like with the DMD.

—Donnie

I don’t understand the colourless dmd, from all the updates the editing software is done? Why pay some one to write you a bit of software to just sit on it? I can only imagine op could not get it to work with his device firmware and gave up on it?

I was at one time interested in this mod but have lost all interest. It wont be long before this thread is drained.

Rapidly getting there myself.

Lost all interest?
Somehow you are still here. You want this - we know, you know.

I have a pretty good hologram, still green, functions. And yet I am interested in this mod, but if and when it does get released, I am beginning to worry about the cost. It will be hard for me to justify spending big bucks when I already have a working hologram.

Regardless, I will continue to root for pinballsp to complete this. I will stick with the thread, and his other projects for now no matter how long they take. He has more talent, skill and experience than me, so I feel like I am at least learning some things along the way.

My unsolicited advice though is to stop worrying about perfectionism - it's coming at the price of the good (to paraphrase Voltaire).

Salut,
I really do not understand what some of you are complaining about here.
Sure, this is taking long, but the only person who has invested time and money into this so far is pinballsp.
He will need to judge when he is ready to release this and I'm convinced if something goes wrong once it is sold, it will be the same who are now saying "come on, release it", who will shout first that this mod is not working as promised/expected.

I would regret if this mod is abandoned or turns out to be too expensive, but this is all pinballsp's decision and we cannot do anything against it.

So lets be patient, hope we will get this for X-max (it will be much easier to tell my wife if it is a Christmas present ) and everybody is free to decide to wait or to drop interest. Just stop to tell that he should release when you want it, as he defines his own deadline keeping all HIS constraints in mind (wanted quality, level of completion, time, etc).
I'm sure he knows that "golden plating dev" risks to never release and in this case he will lost all his investments done so far.

Cheers and have a nice day everybody.

my 2 cents (for what it's worth)
the hologram was something new and special for bally/williams and it did *one* thing; it lit up when it needed to and that was it. it also did so at a point in the game when the ball was [captured] for an instance (and in the subway) so that you could enjoy the [clawing] motion that the subtle bending of the hologram provided

this mod (and mike dallas' before it) kind of went way over the top and are really more of a distraction mod. given the position of the mod, it's really only something that the player can see and doesn't provide any "eye candy" for spectators (unless they're leering over the player's shoulder

finally, for all the time and effort that pinballsp is putting into the animations, these are something that will quickly lose their [wow] factor after the first few times that they've been played.

again, just my opinion

I agree with JM. While the package is great, this mod is getting to the point of being seriously over-engineered. A replacement for folks with no/bad holograms is much needed. All the bells and whistles will be seen very little during the game. If there is a pause in the game, like a ball lock or start of multi-ball, when a feature can be appreciate by a player, it makes sense. Otherwise, it's just sensory overload and it distracts me from what I came to do... play pinball.

Would much rather have a working green hologram rather than this mod. The LCD and fancy animations do not jive well with the theme in my opinion. But it's a good option for people who have nothing.

edit: further explanation... I kept my game at stock in terms of lighting as dull/warm fits the game like a glove. Chuck a bright LCD in that with multiple animations/triggers and things start to get messy

Agree, I think the black lagoon should stay black and only one in a while reveal its dangerous secret. With this mod it is becoming a non stop television commercial, drawing attention and nothing special anymore. I need less screens in my pinball machines and more mechanical wow.

I love my Mike D mod in my CFTBL. I think it is well integrated with the game play. Creature is one of my most fun pins to play. The Mike D mod adds to my enjoyment.

I am just here to see how it all comes together. I had the Mike D mod in mine and did not like the distraction that it had so I removed it. I wont be buying one but am interested what others think of it.

He explained several times:
BASIC, 5 videos
MEDIUM, 10 videos
FULL, 24 videos

Here’s a thought. Instead of nothing where the lagoon is have a video of a dark lagoon with dark water and glimpses of dark scary things lurking in it.

Worth noting that 2 of the 5 basic videos have nothing to do with game play and won't be seen past initial boot AFAIK, one video is a loop of the game title and 2 are actually related to game play.

BASIC, 5 videos, 439.42 USD
HALF, 10 videos, 532.80 USD
FULL, 24 videos, 595.09 USD

How does this thread not have key posts in it?

24 videos and nothing to play them you guys will be buying a $600 .zip file

I see.
Too many videos: problem.
Only 2 videos: problem.

I believe the point was that the thread lacks key posts to find information, not that the basic mod costs $146.47 per game play video.

False - and nobody said that. Hardware is not free of charge.
Looks like this thread is a magnet for jealous negative "pinheads".

2 of the 5 videos not being game play related means 3 are.
439.43 divided by 3 is 146.47

I'd say its a magnet for people who are bad at reading comprehension and or mathematics.

Let them buy a Stern topper for more.....

You've been on Pinside for 3 years, this can't be news to you, I've said plenty of positive things in this thread, I don't see my post as negative. I still think this thread needs keypost

I just bought a GOT Topper and love it! Trying my damndest to resist the Jurassic Park one

I see... According to this logic, if a Ford F150 costs $28k, price of one wheel is $7k.

You don't buy a truck to just get wheels tho

This thing you buy just to play videos...

That's correct, I agree. But the hardware is a must, his product is not just the video.

So you clearly understand math, but not the reading comprehension part. Its possible you are not a Native English speaker, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. If you aren't I'm sure your English is still better than my Hungarian.

Can we agree the basic mod is 439.42 USD?
Can we agree that the basic mod comes with 5 videos?
Can we agree that of those 5 videos, 3 are game play videos?

If we can agree on those points then you can take the total investment and divide by 3. Thats what it will cost someone to add 3 game play videos to their CFTBL pin using this in terms of a per video cost. Its not saying you are paying that much for a video clip, or the cost of a clip on top of hardware.

I am not negative, I am not jealous, and Im definitely not a pinhead. We have gone off on a bit of a tanget and I hope Ive clarified my post. Point remains there arent any posts flagged as key in this thread.

"It's a distraction mod - overengineered"
"It's a mod with 3 videos"

Luckily, we have options:
-3 packages
-keep our other aftermarket mod
-keep our nice/faded hologram.

Nothing is mandatory. It's an option. That's my point. I hope I've clarified my post.

At this current point in time there are 2 options. First one isn't an option... yet!

Yes, petty name calling and bad reading comprehension. I got it the first time.

Up to you. As you are here, hopefully you would like to buy this mod it in the future.

I think there are many of us here for the train wreck we just can’t look away from.

—Donnie

I see it more like a bad movie you have to watch until the end. Even though you know the end is going to suck.

Slowest train crash in history though

Has he ever finished a mod? Just curious.

Best I can figure, he took 2 years to do 9 videos plus 2 test videos. With 11 left, I figure this should be ready by Christmas 2023.

But the content he has done looks awesome.

This this and once more..... this.

If you look into his shop on facebook there are only projects which rely on the development of others and where he took only the publicly available schematics and made his own pcb design of it.
DMDMK66 = https://github.com/ecurtz/RGB_DMD
DMDST32 = PIN2DMD
VIDEOSP 192x64 = SEGA DMD Controller pcb design converted to SMD
TESTER CPU BALLY/Williams = switchmatrix and lampmatrix connected to buttons and LEDs

Afaik not one project has been finished where he had to do the software development.

That is true, but it is the work of a graphic designer he hired.

We will probably end up with a great cftbl cartoon movie in 2022

I’ll bet 50 that he gets it finished.