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Hokus Pokus help

By DCRand

5 years ago


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#18 5 years ago
Quoted from DCRand:

Took a few minutes this morning to check score motor switches. Not sure which is break switch si cleaned them all

Sorry but that was a mistake. This forum is full of posts from people who tried shotgun cleaning & adjustments, and caused more problems than they were originally trying to solve.
What to do instead: Slowly and carefully diagnose one problem at a time and then fix only that.

3 weeks later
#32 5 years ago
Quoted from Mpellicano:

There's a walk around video on Youtube that I posted last night

His video is at

1 month later
#36 5 years ago

I'll need to see a high quality scan of the schematic from (for example) Staples ($2) or Kinkos ($6)

6 months later
#51 5 years ago

Have a look at the Outhole switch

#55 5 years ago

The Ball Index relay should let go when the Outhole relay activates.

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#57 5 years ago
Quoted from Nikrox2:And it looks like as it’s going into the 2nd ball?

I have no idea what you're asking here.

#59 5 years ago

The Ball Index relay can be energized by the 10, 100, or 1000 Point relay or the Tilt relay. Once energized, a switch on the Outhole relay and a switch on the Motor should release it, unless one (or more) of the 4 switches are keeping it energized. Make sure those 6 switches are working correctly.

For a switch to work 3 things are necessary
1) When open, there should be a small space between the contact points (duh)
2) When closing, the long blade's contact point should push the short blade's contact point enough to move the short blade
3) The contact points should be clean, which they usually will be if #2 is happening

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#61 5 years ago
Quoted from Nikrox2:

"6B SCM" - I'm taking it, from your notes and 1A of the S of Op (Page 3), this is the #6 Score Motor? Pardon the ineptness - where is this switch, and what does the "B" designate?

Here's the score motor. As we can see from the Motor Sequence Chart on the schematic, cam 11 has 6 bumps per 1/2 revolution. Count back from there to cam 6. B probably means it's the 2nd switch from the bottom, but check wire colors to be sure.

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#65 5 years ago
Quoted from Nikrox2:

These score motors scare me. This type or the old gotlieb style like my Hot Shot. Just too many things I can mess up

Then concentrate on the other switches I pointed to above.

#67 5 years ago

If the Ball Index relay is staying energized when it shouldn't, then something is keeping it that way. What's doing that?

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