I can't speak for others, but I down voted your post for being phony. It wasn't long ago I read you trashing on the Hobbit. What changed?

You just put out a phony vibe in your post. Like you're trying too hard. Sorry if I'm wrong.

If they're anything like the voice actors who did Dorothy and the wicked witch, then my guess is family members. Because those voice actors were so bad Jack must have gotten family to do them for free. So Darth Smaug was probably an uncle or cousin of Jacks.

I owned Woz for over a year. You sir, are delusional.

Some of you need to revisit the movie. Then go play woz. The dorothy and witch have high shrill voices in woz. Judy garland and Margaret Hamilton have low deep voices. If nothing else, listen to "toto you're back" and tell me they sound the same.

Certainly there are voice actors out there that could sound pretty close to original. It would not surprise me if Jack used friends or relatives to do those voices to save money.

True. Those were pretty bad. Worse than woz

That was really surprising for me to see too. If they screw up the routing somehow then you just wasted all that paint and clear. Not to mention the routers will f up the clear. Makes no sense to me.
Edit-thats probably just a test print. I doubt all those others underneath are printed because you would not stack that many freshly cleared playfields on top of each orher. Would you?

The new investors have to be thinking about what the most profitable course of action is.

1. Halt production of WOZ to build 1500 or so Hobbits costing millions of dollars while taking in no money.

2. Continue building WOZ and taking in new money while putting off Hobbit production for as long as possible until preorder customers literally show up with their torches and pitchforks.

Hmm. What to do.......what to do?

Yes....you are. I think most people like myself feel the opposite. The movie was not so great, but the pin is really good. Same with Avatar to a lesser extent.

You've got to be joking. The music is awesome. Tron LE has probably the best sound/music package of any pin. Daft Punk multiball music is epic.

I owned Woz for well over a year. I played Tron Le on location weekly for 2 years. There is no comparison. As far as BOM quality and just looking at it, WOZ was the clear winner. After pressing the start button Tron was the only winner. It's just a question of what you prefer.

BTW heres what the proceeds of the WOZ sale helped to fund..... Of course, thanks to Jacks public statements about no warranty transfer and refusal to upgrade early games with known defects with the appropriate fixes, I did take a bath on WOZ.

And if anyone comments about first world problems, or looks like someone has a case of the mondays, I am going to have my driver (pinchroma) transport Lawrence to your residence for a good talking to.

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Sadly, no. My brother has the LE. This is a refinery edition. But when i was 15 and saw a beat to hell 66 convertible C code V8 for sale sitting outside a redondo beach house collecting dust and leaves(top was rotted completely away) for $3000 bucks in 1987 i begged my dad to help fund it. I had $1500 saved from working for the city painting fences since I was 13. I asked if he would pay half. He went with me to look at it, flashed $2700 cash and said take it or leave it. The owner took it. My dad let me keep my $1500 and freshman year of college painted it for me as well. Its 25 years later and due for another paint job, which will be done this winter. The WOZ helped fund the ford racing motors crate engine and Tremac T5 transmission.

Lighten up Francis.

You're right. It is just your opinion.

More likely that the new money is used to buy more WOZ parts. New investors are there to make money. There is money to be made selling WOZ right now. No money to be made selling the first 1500 or so Hobbits.

Good point. It will probably play out similar to the way WOZ did. Everyone knew who the first handful of preorders were, so they got their machines first. The unboxing threads of a few dozen well connected pinsiders appeased the masses. Then when details of who was next in line were more sketchy, that's when Jack started pulling all the shenanigans, telling yarns about the many people who traded in their LE's for standards, and all these "distributors" who were secretly day one orders of a bunch of standards even though standards and distributors weren't announced until well after the preorders. With Hobbitt already having distributors and standards available very early on, it will be easier to play this game. The result is the same. Most of the preorder buyers or as Jack stated in the JPop thread "investors" (who should be happy with the journey on its own merits and not be surprised or too upset if they get stiffed) are in for a very long wait while new money jumps the line faster than a fake cripple and their entourage of 10 on a Disneyland ride.

I do hope Hobbitt turns out to be fun because WOZ sure wasn't. But why the heck did they copy the Fish Tales ramps/captive ball design. And pop up MM trolls as inlane hurry ups? Balcer?

Yep, that was the story.

Sounds plausible. Except for the fact that there were no day one dealers/distributors. They came quite a bit later to the party than the crowdfunders who were passed over similar to how Fredo was passed over by Michael.

But what if they find problems with some of these test games?

Seems like air balls could get trapped around the SMAUG area pretty easily. Might need a plastic shield like POTC.

Based on my eyes. It looks like there are a few ledges or nooks there. Notice my use of the word "could" not "would". So yes, it is speculation, although not really wild. I have not heard whether there have been any issues with this.

I believe the term is gyp, short for gypsy.

With everyone stating that Keith is gonna knock it out of the park with future code, and Jack and Hobbit owners counting on him to deliver, I can't imagine dealing with that kind of pressure. I hope they're paying him well.

11 months from now?