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Hobbit Update


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5 years ago



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#154 5 years ago

I think the manufacturers should have protected territories for selling games, just like the good old days.

I remember how that prick Hank Heiser of Empire/Bally Midwest actually had his parts counter guys call the front office when requesting parts for certain newer games to verify if he sold the machine to the buyer of any parts. When there would be a mismatch, he would toddle out and yell at us, the low-level flunky technicians, that he is not selling us a part for a machine we bought from someone else. Mr. Big Man.. LOL So, as I relayed that info to one of my company's owners, a call was made to Williams (Martin & Snyder had just gone out of business so Bally Midwest was now the Williams distributor). Within an hour I was paged on my two-way to go back and pick up the part. I recall it was a weird flipper base or coil stop for a Time Warp but it may have been something else.

I popped in to Mr. Nutty's office and said "Thanks for selling me the part after all". If looks could kill, I would have been dead.

He was a popmous ass because his daughter studied acting and supposedly dated Bruce Springsteen. Up until then, she had a few roles in some B movies. Eventually, she had a role in LA Law with the character name Allison Gottlieb. I imagine the Gottlieb name was related to pinball but who knows and who cares.

The protected territories were for machine sales, not service parts. It helped that one of my company owners was a Lawyer. He made the call to Williams.

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#653 5 years ago
Quoted from rubberfist:

So There are knitting circles of 80 y/old grannies with sandy vaginas, .

If you have ever made love to a female on a beach and did not have a good blanket or beach towel between her and the sand; all I can say is the post above brought back some painful memories.

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#654 5 years ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

I asked Jack today at MPE ...... One funny comment that Jack did make was in regards to some of the constant WOZ bashing by a select few on Pinside...he said something very close to (in a joking tone) "that they don't know sh*t about building a pinball company", haha. That got a good laugh out of the crowd. /blockquote>

He needs to learn to keep his word. His track record for buliding a pinball company that will deliver working, reliable, fully coded games is not good at all. How is the parts department running? Can anyone buy spare parts yet?

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#659 5 years ago

I'll also add that Jack himself promised (at the MPE in 2012) a WoZ would be placed at a Jersey shore arcade by Memorial Day, that year. I delayed a trip to the area to see the pin. Alas, more words unkept.

Panzerfreak, I think I figured it out, JJP accidentally sent an Operator's pin to Abel for you which is why yours has worked flawlessly. Good for you!

#662 5 years ago

The 3600 sq. ft. Midwest Campus (sign says office) where The Hobbit development is taking place these days.

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#686 5 years ago

Arer there any physics majors here who can help with the whole light & invisiglass thing?

#688 5 years ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

My game came directly from JJP. I do know other owners that received their game from Abel and haven't had any major issues. I did preorder my Hobbit from Abel.

I stand corrected; JJP (I didn't know they sell direct, I thought as a minimum it would have to be sold to an individual through Jack Guarnieri Service Company dba:Pinballsales.com) accidentally sent an Operator's pin to you which is why it has worked flawlessly. Good for you!

#746 5 years ago
Quoted from QuickSilverShelb:

So basically what your saying is that there weren't enough zeros on that paycheck, correct? They didn't give a rats ass about the project or the fact that it was pinball. It was only about cash......King cash.
QSS

Yep, unlike some, he is NOT doing it "for the love of pinball".

#807 5 years ago
Quoted from txstargazer3:

Not until after all the fans buy the regular edition, watch it once, and become convinced the editor was a fool and cut all the best scenes so they must have the Extended Edition.

Maybe the video COmpaNy will call it the Ruby Red Limited Edition.

#844 5 years ago
Quoted from CaptainNeo:

I don't know why the hell you guys want updates anyway? Personally, I don't want to know every star post added to the game. The way he handled WOZ was crappy. There was no element of surprise, every aspect of it, I saw as it was being done, so when I actually saw the game in person, it was very uneventful. the whole game had a MEH, element to it. If I would have knew nothing and saw nothing about it, until it was revealed at a show, it might have blew my balls off.
You guys around here can't wait for anything. Impulse buyers. How crappy would it be for you as a kid on xmas, if you knew and saw everything you were getting? IT would have sucked. I know because one year I did know and there wasn't any surprise there. The surprise is part of the experience. Learn how to wait, and the less you know, the more impact the game will have during a reveal.

I pointed this out two years ago on WoZ threads. The real pinball companies (Bally, Williams & Gottlieb kept everything under wraps until about4-6 weeks prior to release. At that time the title was leaked and maybe some special feature. Once Bally bought their own distributor network, they may have leaked out stuff a few weeks earlier. This was around the time the fanboys proclaimed that WoZ will be the best built, highest quality game ever. When I asked how could they possibly know that; the crowd with pitchforks came after me.

#930 5 years ago
Quoted from mummite:

what are the details are these target banks?

They can't disclose that at this time.

#931 5 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

There are strict guidelines concerning this
» YouTube video

It's a process.... LLLLLLMFAO!!!!!!! I wonder if this process is QS or TS rated?

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#979 5 years ago
Quoted from HighNoon:

I know you're joking, but just so there's no confusion for people not familiar with such things...
High voltage drivers are not used for lamps (GI or insert). Drivers are only used for motors, coils, flash lamps, etc.
--Luke

Never let the facts, get in the way of a good story. Kinda like print and teevee news. Yes, the comma is there on purpose.

#982 5 years ago

Hopefully a Disney-like Animatronics device. That would be cool.

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#1049 5 years ago

Maybe a replica of this new Hammacher Schlemmer product will be the Smaug toy...

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#1616 5 years ago
Quoted from CraZ4Pin:

I know there is a really nice guy behind the creation of these figures. But I wish JJP would use him where his skillset is strongest. Doing things like powdercoating and creating non-character decorations (like walls and other inanimate objects.) Because detailed character creation is not his strongest skill IMO.

Remember, nobody on Pinside knows more about powdercoating than........ never mind.

#1737 5 years ago
Quoted from krupa:

Yep. I was just playing my Addams Family and thinking how much of an uproar the phone plastic would cause nowadays.

Not necessarily, it would depend on which manufacturer was making the machine and who the competition was.

#1741 5 years ago

If not at Expo, perhaps at at the Pinball Life bash?

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#2964 4 years ago
Quoted from dannunz:

Who is the jjp distributor in that area? They should be covering that show.

pinballsales.com

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#2968 4 years ago
Quoted from Pinchroma:

Uhh no. In Florida I think it's curly?

Mybad, I thought Pinballsales.com sells in Florida. Does JJP have "protected territories" now?

#2970 4 years ago
Quoted from Pinchroma:

Give it a rest. You know all distribs can sell everywhere. But curly is the local distrib in Florida. You really are cranky Bruce.

Not cranky in the least bit Alex. Quite happy as a matter of fact. Never heard of Curly Distributing. Guessing you mean Little Shop of Games. However, they are not on the list of official JJP distributors on the JJP site. How was I supposed to know this? Is there another list somewhere or perhaps a secret list out there?

#3159 4 years ago

<<<We have had many inquires about purchasing a second Smaug™ Toy so the customer has both Smaug™ colors if they wish to interchange them in the future. If you would like to do this, the 2nd Smaug™ Toy will ship with your game for an additional $200, but will NOT be installed. This applies to both LE buyers and Smaug™ Gold Buyers, both have to option to purchase the additional colored Smaug™ Toy.>>>

Fair and reasonable service parts price.

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#4495 4 years ago

Since JJP did not meet their "contractual obligation"; I wonder what the penalty is?

#4498 4 years ago

Are you guys saying that someone may have been fibbing about a contractual obligation?

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#4578 4 years ago

Near Harrisburg; the Capitol of one of this nation's most populated states. Pretty good in my book.

#4582 4 years ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

The Silmarillion has been announced to be a 72 part movie series. Rumor has it that JJP already has the license for The Silmarillion pin and will ask Keith to create code for the game for the next 50 years with the final update being pre-configured to auto upload to the JJP support site in 2160 for the final films release. The games code is said to compose 1,000 modes, 72 movie multiball modes, 20 mini wizard modes and a main wizard mode that not even NASA's super computer can beat in simulated games. All game code is to be stored on a 4 x 5TB RAID 5 SSD configuration for speed as well as reliability.
http://www.eyeofthetiber.com/2014/10/07/peter-jackson-announces-plans-for-72-part-movie-series-of-the-silmarillion/
I should of saved this for April 1st, haha.

What about all the TOYS?

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#4586 4 years ago
Quoted from lowepg:

Well, obviously you have extraordinarily high standards when it comes to your pinball AND literary works (Jurassic Park).... but note that SOME of us (I dunno, maybe 150,000,000 or so) are Tolkien fans.
I just wish there was SOME way you weren't forced to read (and participate) in threads like this where you have no interest.... If there was just SOME mechanism by which you could only read the threads that interest you....Maybe some day....

What is a "Tolkien"?

#4590 4 years ago
Quoted from spfxted:

The thing you use in the subway...

These days it's a Ventra card. I still have a few NY Transit and CTA tokens laying around.

#4618 4 years ago
Quoted from luvthatapex2:

Why would you assume the game coming to Ohio would be different than the game shown last weekend?

You mean: OHIO.

#4620 4 years ago
Quoted from GravitaR:

Nah means ohio?

One of the proprietors of the Ohio show always addresses it as the OHIO show.

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#4758 4 years ago

Very near-ish.

#4761 4 years ago
Quoted from Hazoff:

I think with Skit B, JPOP and DP we should be a little more tolerable of JJP delay's. The bottom line is that the pin looks great and it will be built and shipped fairly soon but at least it will be made. I'm hoping to have my by the end of the year and thats just fine with me.

I agree.

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#6257 4 years ago

Don't forget that JJP needs to keep service parts on hand for future parts that wear out. Unlike previous pin manufacturers that had stocking distributors who bought service parts and sold them, the JJP model has primarily ships service parts from the manufacturing plant as needed. This is also thanks to modern shipping methods that do not require a lot of "mini warehousing" of these game-specific parts.

If all parts are used to build games and then a Winkie target breaks for a guy in Salem, Oregon, now what? JJP has to buy a minimum quantity and send one to Oregon and sit on the rest. Plus there is the delay in the supplier getting that minimum buy shipped.

In 1978, Bally sold over US$9,000,000.00 in service parts. That's over $30,000,000.00 in today's dollars. As soon as sold, the payment from distributors was due in 30 days. Slot customers upon sale of full orders of slots for the casinos that came online in Atlantic City were given terms of 180 days.

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#6539 4 years ago
Quoted from dendoc:

Isn't it nice to have a "private " forum? Not sure why quotes have to be instantly posted over here as well......

We now have the "Quote Police".

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#6811 4 years ago
Quoted from PinPatch:

I was going to ask all the car nerds what forum they frequent,
... so I can log in there and talk about pinball machines in their US muscle vs European sports car topics
Is the success of WOZ delaying the Hobbit?

Audiworld.com

#6843 4 years ago

I wonder if Metalink will ever donate to pinside again?

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#7018 4 years ago
Quoted from Hazoff:

I've never read the letter, where is it?

Post 16,239 in the JPop thread is one of the places it is posted.

#7121 4 years ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

I'm sure Stern can make an amazing GOT pin but they are going to need to step it up in terms of sound effects, music and rules for the game to create that epic quest like feel that The Hobbit will have.

Stern may not have to do this for a sub-$5000.00 pin being sold to route operators for use in taking in quarters and dollar bills.

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#7370 4 years ago
Quoted from BillySastard:

Can someone please translate this for me?

What language would you like it translated to?

#7422 4 years ago
Quoted from lordloss:

The US ones also came in

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Those could be for Canada. Look for single coin slot doors in the background

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#7755 4 years ago

Love the "improved" Pinside that does not show that you successfully posted so you re-post over and over.....

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#8272 4 years ago
Quoted from TaTa:

Jack can't control his suppliers so his word is useless in these instances. But when it comes to something he has total control over like the cutoff date, I expect and demand it to be upheld!

Duly noted.

#8273 4 years ago
Quoted from BC_Gambit:

Oh dear. I was being sarcastic
But if you want to send $50,000 (USD) my way, i can almost guarantee you a game at some time between now and when the universe ends (with a bunch of caveats and legal disclaimers to cover my butt).

Can I get by without having to sign an NDA?

#8274 4 years ago
Quoted from SadSack:

Try to find parts from Jack's last failed venture - Parker Bohn shuffle alley.

Still supported by Jack G. Service Company, DBA Pinballsales.com.

#8329 4 years ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

GOT pics released! Rest easy JJP, The Hobbit looks far better and easily offers the better value.

Don't forget TH's current feature: "Delayed Introduction".

I wonder if the breach of the "Contractual Obligation" has any financial ramifications?

#8394 4 years ago
Quoted from Goronic:

I don't think JJP would mind using standard armor on a SE or LE if you let them know.

What is the "Credit/Delete" fee one receives for this choice?

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#8709 4 years ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

Bingo. If Stern continues down the path they are with cutting more corners and lowering feature sets they will realize quickly that more and more people will stop buying their games. Cost cutting + renting a bigger factory is the worst thing Stern could do.

JSUK: Route Operators love the fact that Stern is cutting corners and costs. They are lowering the prices of the machines they sell to operators. Simpler machines have fewer service calls. They are selling more of them to Operators than they did in the last several years.

JJP is also selling more to Operators.

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#8990 3 years ago
Quoted from mountaingamer:

If this is such a big Hobbit update issue, then where are all the upset JJP customers chiming in about this?

Could there have been another SECRET EMAIL (like with the LOTR new run) that threatened order cancellation (with a full refund of what was paid) if you dare to post one negative statement on any public forum or social media site? Email addresses will be checked and no doubt gullible pre-orderers willfully gave their user names out in hopes of "priority service" if they post enough positives about the game etc.

#9006 3 years ago

Is this where we get to see a picture of an R&L Carriers Bill of Lading for at least one Hobbit being shipped during 2015 for a customer that prepaid?

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#9185 3 years ago
Quoted from happilymarried05:

11/26/12 means you have to use some sort of algebra formula to determine when you get your machine. So 11 goes in to 26 twice which makes 22 carry the 4 and add is (26) 26 times 12 (order year) is 312 months. That is when you get it. Amazingly 312 months divided by 12 months in a year is 26. which is the day in Nov you ordered, so in exactly 26 years is when it happens lol
Too much time on my hands today

Don't forget to take Leap Years into consideration; Divide 26 by 4 and you get an easy to deal with 6 1/2 years.

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