Quoted from Sidekick74:
How sweet would it be if the machine had water in it. I'm also thinking FIRE or at least smoke!
Water? In a machine with all sorts of electrical circuits?
Quoted from lordloss:
With all this new cash along with him saying they plan to ship the rest of the LE's out in the next 90 I'm going to bet that a significant number of LE's will be boxed and ready to go by the december release and that the 1500 will be done within 6 months at most.
That really depends on when the have access to the assets from the third movie. They have to have time to update graphics, art, video and game play to incorporate stuff from the last movie in the trilogy.
Quoted from CaptainNeo:
if they make it so that you can continue your game where you left off, that would suck. If it was that way on LOTR, I would have saw valinor by now, and that would be disappointing. The fact that i'm going on 6 years and never seen it, gives me drive to make it happen. Plus, it will be more rewarding when it happens, due to the struggles and time it took to reach it. Might be the most rewarding ending, I will ever experience in pinball.
I'd love to have the option to pause a game and/or save/restart a game. Doesn't mean I'd use it very often, but it would be nice.
Way too much worry about the detail on these. They aren't perfect, but seem fine to me.
I'm going to be bashing them with a pinball, not admiring them as if they are priceless works of art.
Quoted from TigerLaw:
While your post has merit consider this point: where would JJP have obtained his movie footage from the LCD screen had they licensed the books and not the movie?
I love hand drawn art, but we have to be reasonable in prioritizing what we want.
Same place they will get it for Pat's game - original animation or video.
Quoted from CraZ4Pin:
In that case you can also claim that WOZ and TH never had a pre-payment plan either. Nobody has ever lost their deposit (or even incurred a penalty) by not making a payment by the recommended dates and people were frequently told to just make payments when they were comfortable or to just make the final payment when the game was ready (which many/most did.) It has really only ever been the initial deposit to reserve your game that was important.
Someone had too much coffee this morning.
What is the current payment schedule for the Hobbit? I think the last payment was originally due in July - when is it due now?
Quoted from meSz:
Agree, the gold one is just too much gold IMO! I am correct in stating that one could pick the SE but still get the red Smaug?
I think I read that somewhere. Or you can at least get a red Smaug and swap it out. If I still had my preorder, that's what I was going to do.
I agree with you - too much gold.
Quoted from mnpinball:
Pat's game will be released 3rd 1/4 2015. No teasers, unveiled and ready for sale. The momentum of JJP is finally getting there.
I was hoping for 2Q, maybe even the end of 1Q. Expecting a standard body game, so hope that keeps the costs down somewhat, though I will be prepared to pay a premium if Pat has some cool toys and great original theme/art/sound (which I expect).
But it's just cruel to make me wait until 3Q.
Quoted from HENSBROOKER:
Plus don't forget you don't the anticipation of your future product to cannibalize the sales of your current product. The Hobbit has dug a deep hole in JJP's wallet and Jack wants to maximize current sales for sure. Keeping the doors of the kitchen closed to line up to home run level after the hobbit is the latter IMO.
Except that Pat's game isn't likely to take sales away from The Hobbit at this point. It's more likely that people waiting for his game will purchase another title instead if we go too much longer without any info.
I'm certainly hoping for a home run, but a little concerned that without some early info and opportunities for comments/improvements like we saw with TH that we may get a ground rule double instead.
Looks like the ramps are still harder to make then they should be. How did those shots feel like when playing?
Quoted from Damonator:
Did anyone go to the VIP Hobbit release party in Denver? Or play it this weekend?
TH is much improved since the version shown at TPF. Jack said the code is about 70% done.
Game is set on 2 ball play, but enough to get a good feel for the game. If you like the theme, you will like the game. Music and video are awesome. I'm not a good enough player to comment on game play, but there was a whole lot more to do and I could actually make the ramps shots.
Big setback for JJP if Pat's game is NOT revealed at Expo.
The theme and style differences between TH and PLJJP are going to be enough that few are going to drop TH to go in on Pat's game instead, so there's really no reason to hold off the reveal. If JJP can show a game that's pretty much ready to go right after Hobbit, that's going to quiet the naysayers.
The reveal was supposed to be late summer, then Expo. Pushing it out further doesn't do anything but give people a reason to push the "sky is falling at JJP" agenda.
Quoted from Pimp77:
^One of the dumbests posts I've seen. Of course it would hurt Hobbit! Why release anything about JJP3 until Hobbit is well under way and shipping in substantial numbers? Nothing will be revealed at expo, just like Stern won't say what's after GoT.
It appears you have seen far fewer posts than I have ...
Comparing Stern to JJP in this case is what's dumb. No one is questioning Stern's survival. There is absolutely no concern that Stern won't have games after GoT. Stern's model works and works well.
If revealing details on Pat's game hurts Hobbit sales, all that says that Hobbit buyers are super fickle. One of the key pillars of my argument is that I really don't think there is much overlap between the potential buyers of TH and those of PLJJP. If the majority of the market is thinking TH OR PLJJP, then it doesn't make sense.
But I think it's far more important for JJP to demonstrate that the WOZ and Hobbit delays are behind them and will be the exception, not the rule.
Quoted from RCA1:
"Here's where we are with Hobbit, isn't this progress really cool."
Might be better than
"Here's what we have been working on instead of the game you paid for two years ago."
I certainly don't advocate announcing details on Pat's game before an update on Hobbit. But if Hobbit is in production (or about to be) around Expo, no reason not to show Pat's game.
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