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I think the money has not gone to flyers or other means of 'paper pr'

I think that they are going to wait until the pin is done to update the flyer. The current one still talks about a spinning mountain and player controlled wind lance (which is now a ring button)

I think that an upgrade to the current left top of the pin is wishful thinking ... but that does not mean that you are the only one wishing.

Totally agree on your statement. Here's to hoping there are some surprises yet to come PF wise.

I agree with this, but (and I hate to say it) I bet Matt will provide mods like this after release. I think he will provide many hobbit mods (including bag end, smaug back and/or tail, improved gold pile, waterfall toy around back bumpers....)

I still think we have not seen all of Smaug yet.

That would be great!

Not for my wallet.

True, but TRON is modded out the wazoo by some . . . and that costs extra as well.

I have added a few excellent mods to my WOZ.

Oh man, my wife still doesn't know this is coming. I'm in so much trouble.

Yes...but not for quite a while yet.

(I'm allowed to make that joke...I have one on order.)

A moment of silence for TimeBandit please....

I sure would like to see Jersey Jack Pinball provide some updates at reasonable intervals by someone who has a general idea how customer relations works. This weeks on end with no news is a bunch of nonsense. WOZ is a beautiful machine, a true masterpiece. I played The Hobbit prototype a few different times now as well and have no doubt it will be awesome. But Jack is really dropping the ball on PR and it's nauseating. He knows he needs help in that department, so why not get someone friendly and punctual on board. Can't we at least see a WOZ getting assembled, some parts arriving at the warehouse, a picture of some Hobbit parts or things getting assembled? It's getting to the point where I'm about to go from a believer to a hater. Do I really need to drive down to the factory and shake things up? Sit out there every day and report on whether or not Jack or anyone arrives there, or if any deliveries occurred, and who the vendors were? Some news is better than absolutely nothing! C'mon Jack, I love your games and your vision and you've been great to talk with but can't we make some kind of progress here?

thats a great idea, we need a field reporter to check out the factory to see whats going on and report back here

Understand your frustration. I work in PR and honestly, there's nothing Jack can do that would really "ease" the pain. Here's why. From what I've seen following pinball over the past year and a half is this: Delays happen. It's not wise to put any date in people's head unless the games is ready for the line. That's how Stern does it. People were expecting this game in December and clearly that didn't happen. Jack and others have said it will ship soon and the latest projection is sometime in August/September. It's just a case where you have to be patient. It's not like you won't get a pin. If I were in on a Hobbit I would just be patient and wait for an update. I'd also tell myself that it may take months to get that update. I'd also sleep at night knowing JJP will deliver the game. Sometimes hoping JJP acting differently just makes people angry. Have to shift expectations since JJP will always be JJP.

Wow, a nice thoughful post i agree with...what day is it??

um, please mark this post UNSAFE.

You now owe my $29 as I just spit ice tea out my nose and onto my wireless keyboard after reading this....

Yeah, I don't know what kind of meds Kaneda is on lately, but I want some.

Therapy must be doing wonders for him.

Sure there is - a real update, rather than coming in here to defend the brand against trolls, would be more than sufficient. I don't care if the Hobbit isn't being built in entirety yet, but I would like to know what parts / supplies / mechs / etc. is in progress or has been delivered and what is currently in motion. Even the daily total on how many WOZ were produced would be nice. Something would be better than nothing, which leads to rampant speculation and trolling.

You might want to consider hiring yourself. You have a PR problem.

You're never going to see that from JJP or Stern.

I'm on my way to the factory as we speak ! Happy to report back tomorrow with pics of the visit etc... Looking forward to get some alone time with the Hobbit as I never get to play it as shows when I have to work ! lol Just a casual visit on the fly since I was going to Philly tonight with my son to see Rush ! Talk about a fun day, huh ?

But I will tell you there is GOOD news coming from JJP on many fronts soon - be patient... I will leave official news to Jack of course. Hobbit is coming folks... and it will be worth the wait !

Hey and if you want to buy one we got all three flavors - Standard, LE, and Smaug for you ! : )~

Joe Newhart
JJP Distributor
PinballSTAR Amusements
[email protected]
570-3357-0042

Joe, thanks for the update, and for once again reminding us why you're one of the few in the industry we can actually depend on. Would you like to borrow an extra stick from me so you can poke and prod Jack a bit to do a personal update for us while you're there?

Ha ha... Well Jack just text me that I need to bring a stick, now I get it... Too funny...

Things are good guys, little more patience... Had an hour and a half conference call with Jack Saturday and the future is looking good. Hang in there... The guy always ends up coming through time and time again. Nothing great comes easy...

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yes! please lots of Hobbit pictures and feedback

Classic and very uplifting. Get R Done.

There are 601 pinsiders who own Woz and yet Jack just criticizes pinside

Should he not express an opinion?

I can totally see why he's not keen on pinside. Some people here shit on him and his business every chance they get.

Wow, I'm famous now! You guys both rock. Thanks for all you do. And for the record, I have nothing but love for Jersey Jack Pinball and wish the very best for the future of that company and am very confident in what Jack is doing. I just wanted a taste of more frequent news and updates, that's all!

Joe if i wasn't up to my ears in dev right now i'd swing by too

He can do what he likes.

For me some of the comments are too general and a bit unprofessional but let the show roll on

If he wants to criticize individuals that's his prerogative, but I don't like the jabs at "Pinside" as a whole since not everyone on Pinside is a jerk or an enemy of JJP. Personally I think he should limit the editorial content and just share facts and information.

See normally I'd agree and say, yes, be transparent and let people know what the delays are. Problem is this: there are literally thousands of parts on a pinball machine. And if Jack identifies the issues then you have an angry mob speculating about what's taking so long with that part. You also run the risk of having that mob go after the vendor. Jack owes those who paid a pinball machine, not detailed explanations on delays. Look I'd love it if there were some sort of "delivered by date" clause in pre-order contracts and if those dates were missed you got a discount.

Here is my question for people waiting. Do you have other pinball machines in your house? If so, just play and enjoy them and don't stare at these update threads (that never have any updates). Sometimes it seems like we get so caught up on wanting news when we know there is none. That makes the wait 10x harder. But we do it to ourselves.

Jack wakes up everyday and wants to get you the Hobbit more than you even want it. I'm sure of that.

I have a feeling that the Hobbit waiting journey comes to an end. Soon the dragon will spit his fire..............game on

He's not silly enough to be talking to the whole of Pinside, for example I know he's not referring to me. But there is a core of people here who just love to yank his chain.

You're right.... I think he was only insulting the folks who dared to post on pinside during BUSINESS HOURs.... um.. oh wait...

I agree with this and I see no need to point out who or what is causing a delay if it comes to outside vendors. I wasn't really looking for reasons why things are being delayed as much as I'm looking for some examples of progress happening with it. They could talk about parts that are there and ready and being assembled, for example. Or some video of a mechanism in action being tested. Or gameplay videos of The Hobbit out at the shows & etc. There's a lot of really awesome innovations on WOZ and the Hobbit that are worthy of talking about as well. They're both impressive engineering feats.

Kaneda="Pinball LifeCoach"

There was no stick available so I beat the living shit out of him with a hammer. Lol... As usual Jack was more than happy to play along.

The mood at JJP is one of excitement !!! Good things are coming.

Pics and videos to follow...

Joe
PinballSTAR Amusements
[email protected]

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WOW....Can't wait to play this thing!

Nothing earth shatteringly new here as the game has been done. One comment Jack did make when looking at the rows and rows of parts is that to remember that 60% of the the Hobbit is made of same stuff as WOZ, and they are there. They are just working on some of the Hobbit specific stuff at this later stage.

I was very impressed with the Smaug figure, teeth, it's interaction to the game in speaking to the player. Very impressive. The coins and pillars and ramp decals finish everything off very nicely.

One picture is of Frank Becker who I met in person for the first time. What a great asset Frank and Lloyd are to JJP ! Incredible tech support service after the sale !

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I was thinking the same thing, but thanks for the pics. Something is better than nothing!

What the h e double hockey sticks is that playfield in the background? Is that Pat's game???

Edit: False alarm. It's just WOZ on its side.

Looks amazing, thanks for the pics!

Great pictures Joe. Thanks for taking the time to do this. One day closer...