Hobbit setup, tweaks and adjustments


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#551 9 months ago

Hobbit for sale. Check out market place for details if interested.

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#552 9 months ago
Quoted from vireland:

The hangars on the one I maintained actually sagged over time. I think the metal is too soft for such a heavy playfield. I had to adjust it twice in 6 months to bring the PF up a couple mm and relieve pressure on the back of the start button and/or shooter rod/kicker issues.

I wonder if anyone sells a heavier grade metal for the brackets?

#553 9 months ago
Quoted from Goronic:

I wonder if anyone sells a heavier grade metal for the brackets?

No necessarily a heavier grade but maybe a hardened version.

Or maybe heat them up to red glowing hot and quench them in used motor oil a couple of times.

1 month later
#554 7 months ago

What kind of adjustment do I make so the ball doesn't spin out from the right wireform into the outlane?

#555 7 months ago
Quoted from wolv3:

What kind of adjustment do I make so the ball doesn't spin out from the right wireform into the outlane?

Mine did that at first but just stopped on it's own. May have stopped when I waxed it the first time.

#556 7 months ago
Quoted from wolv3:

What kind of adjustment do I make so the ball doesn't spin out from the right wireform into the outlane?

You have to bend the wireform...specifically the ring where the ball drops through: bend it up a bit. That will put top spin on the ball and minimize the side spin it builds up. Mine did this early on and I never saw it again after tweaking that wireform.

#557 7 months ago

I just got my first pinball machine and it is a Hobbit LE. I have read online about leveling the machine and I think I have the left and right correct but I am not sure about the front to back. Using an app on the iPhone (see picture) it appears that the angle is 13.1 degrees, which I believe it too high but perhaps it is because I am measure from the glass not the playfield.

Is there anyway you could tell if my machine is basically correct by viewing the pictures?

Thanks

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#559 7 months ago
Quoted from psexton:

I just got my first pinball machine and it is a Hobbit LE. I have read online about leveling the machine and I think I have the left and right correct but I am not sure about the front to back. Using an app on the iPhone (see picture) it appears that the angle is 13.1 degrees, which I believe it too high but perhaps it is because I am measure from the glass not the playfield.
Is there anyway you could tell if my machine is basically correct by viewing the pictures?
Thanks

Just by looking at the pictures I am not sure why you have the front legs adjusted so high? I keep the front legs almost all the way retracted and then just adjust a little to get left and right level. Definitely take the glass off for a proper reading. Then play the machine to see if you like the way it plays, adjust more if needed.

#560 7 months ago
Quoted from psexton:

I just got my first pinball machine and it is a Hobbit LE. I have read online about leveling the machine and I think I have the left and right correct but I am not sure about the front to back. Using an app on the iPhone (see picture) it appears that the angle is 13.1 degrees, which I believe it too high but perhaps it is because I am measure from the glass not the playfield.
Is there anyway you could tell if my machine is basically correct by viewing the pictures?
Thanks

You need to re-calibrate your phone via the button in the app. There is no way in hell that machine is on 13 degrees with the front feet wound so far out. It would be closer to 5 or less which would make the game very slow and floaty.

#561 7 months ago
Quoted from koops:

You need to re-calibrate your phone via the button in the app. There is no way in hell that machine is on 13 degrees with the front feet wound so far out. It would be closer to 5 or less which would make the game very slow and floaty.

Put the level on the PF not the glass. Should be between 6 and 8 degrees. 13 could only be the glass.
I put my front all the way in (down), and the back legs almost all the way up (about 1.5 inches of threads exposed).

Back levelers:
Easier is about 1 inch of threads showing ~ 7 degrees PF pitch
Mine at 1.5 inches of thread ~ 7.5 degrees
hardest is 2 inches of threads ~ 8 degrees

#562 7 months ago
Quoted from wolv3:

What kind of adjustment do I make so the ball doesn't spin out from the right wireform into the outlane?

Quoted from Pimp77:

You have to bend the wireform...specifically the ring where the ball drops through: bend it up a bit. That will put top spin on the ball and minimize the side spin it builds up. Mine did this early on and I never saw it again after tweaking that wireform.

I just used a big nut driver through the lower loop and bent it backwards a bit until the handle touched the wireform.
Basically bent the loop up about 3/16" to 1/4". This will spin the ball laterally instead of up and out of the lane guide. Seems to work very well and is a simple tweak.

I did this on both wireforms as the ball can also spin out of the left one too.
Its very annoying when it happens.

#563 7 months ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

I just used a big nut driver through the lower loop and bent it backwards a bit until the handle touched the wireform.
Basically bent the loop up about 3/16" to 1/4". This will spin the ball laterally instead of up and out of the lane guide. Seems to work very well and is a simple tweak.
I did this on both wireforms as the ball can also spin out of the left one too.
Its very annoying when it happens.

Thanks I'll try it. I tried to adjust it last weekend but found it was hard to move the bottom part of the wireform.

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#564 7 months ago

I man-handled mine too this weekend, and I was unsuccessful at fixing the problem. Nothing more frustrating than the ball flying in the outlane from that wireform. Jeez.

#565 7 months ago
Quoted from Bendit:

I man-handled mine too this weekend, and I was unsuccessful at fixing the problem. Nothing more frustrating than the ball flying in the outlane from that wireform. Jeez.

Bend the lower loop up further.
Jam a nut driver in the hole and bend it back up until the ball no longer spins out. (read above)
Works every time.

#566 7 months ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Bend the lower loop up further.

"Up" means towards where? Towards the back wall if I am standing in front of the machine?

#567 7 months ago
Quoted from Bendit:

"Up" means towards where? Towards the back wall if I am standing in front of the machine?

Towards the ceiling. Bend the end of the wireform (the loop) up towards the ceiling.

#568 7 months ago
Quoted from Pimp77:

Towards the ceiling. Bend the end of the wireform (the loop) up towards the ceiling.

Roger that. Thanks. Mine is angled to the right a little. That's what I tried to unbend.

#569 7 months ago

Just played a few games, the auto launch decided it would stop working. Any thoughts before I open a ticket?

#570 7 months ago
Quoted from Spencer:

Any thoughts before I open a ticket?

Look it over. Anything else not working ? Check fuse for it. Broken wire at coil, or along the way to next coil ? Shooter lane switch working ?

LTG : )

#571 7 months ago

Thanks Lloyd, all fixed up!

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#572 6 months ago

The other day the upper flipper stopped retracting all the way. I lifted the playfield and it seems like it might be rubbing on the inside of the coil. I took a look at the lower flippers and they seem much more smooth. The spring is still on it as well. Any ideas on what to look for?

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#573 6 months ago
Quoted from wolv3:

Any ideas on what to look for?

Check if the pawl slipped on the flipper shaft. Loosen it, realign it. Tighten it real good.

LTG : )

#574 6 months ago
Quoted from wolv3:

The other day the upper flipper stopped retracting all the way. I lifted the playfield and it seems like it might be rubbing on the inside of the coil. I took a look at the lower flippers and they seem much more smooth. The spring is still on it as well. Any ideas on what to look for?

Quoted from LTG:

Check if the pawl slipped on the flipper shaft. Loosen it, realign it. Tighten it real good.
LTG : )

Also maybe pull off the coil stop and look at the coil sleeve and check the condition of the plunger.
It might just be full of black dust causing it to jam up, or the coil sleeve is wearing abnormally due to dust and is not smooth.

#575 6 months ago

I adjusted the flipper and pulled the coil sleeve out. There was quite a bit of dust. What's the best way to clean the sleeve? I noticed that there seems to be a bit of wear on the sleeve is this normal.

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#576 6 months ago
Quoted from wolv3:

What's the best way to clean the sleeve? I noticed that there seems to be a bit of wear on the sleeve is this normal.

I clean them with iso alcohol and q-tips but if there's wear I'd swap it out for a new one

#577 6 months ago

Thanks, that's how I cleaned them out just wanted another opinion. For the sleeves is it one size fits all?

#578 6 months ago
Quoted from wolv3:

For the sleeves is it one size fits all?

No. They are different lengths. You'll have to measure it if you don't have a part number.

or

http://store.jerseyjackpinball.com/Parts/?search=sleeve

#579 6 months ago
Quoted from wolv3:

Thanks, that's how I cleaned them out just wanted another opinion. For the sleeves is it one size fits all?

There are different sized sleeves for different sized coils. Definitely make sure you are getting the right one. http://store.jerseyjackpinball.com/Parts/The-Hobbit-Parts/Sleeve-Filpper-Inner.html

#580 6 months ago
Quoted from Wickerman2:

You'll have to measure it

2 3/16 flipper coil sleeve.

LTG : )

#581 6 months ago

Thanks!

3 weeks later
#582 5 months ago

Have the same noise issue. Just ordered the ground loop isolator. Thanks for this thread. Will report my results.

#583 5 months ago

Ground loop isolator eliminated the noise. Thanks for the info

#584 5 months ago
Quoted from Aflacjack:

Ground loop isolator eliminated the noise. Thanks for the info

I did the same thing and it solved all of my audio problems.

Curiously my WOZ had one installed from the factory, I wonder why they didnt put one in the Hobbit?

5 months later
#585 7 days ago

Just brought a Smaug Edition home tonight, my first pin manufactured in the 21st century! The game is HOU, has approximately 1100 plays, and is in like new condition. I immediately set it up in my game room and put 15-20 games on it without issue. By the end of the ~20th game, I had a few beers in me, and decided to start messing with the elaborate JJ game-settings and menus. Since I didn't know what had been changed by the previous owner, I found the "factory reset" option and went for it without hesitation. My slightly impaired thinking was that it would be nice to start fresh, as Jack intended it, and go from there.

Immediately after the reset, I started another game and the ball release coil didn't have enough power to push the ball into the trough, and kept repeatedly cycling. Then Gandoff started yelling at me to get on with it! I opened the coin door and manually pushed the ball out with the coil plunger, and the game played just fine. After that ball drained, the ball release coil would start cycling again and seemingly did not have enough umph to push ball number two into the trough.

Any known issues, and/or fixes for this?

In my mind, and given the circumstances, this "issue" has to be related to the reset I performed. The new software update was previously installed; however, I didn't look to see if the reset wiped it.

Any thoughts/input is appreciated.

#586 7 days ago
Quoted from PSUTownie:

I found the "factory reset" option and went for it without hesitation...

It was probably not the best idea to zap all those settings but you are where you are now. There is a menu in the settings screen for adjusting coil power. You'll have to adjust those numbers on each coil that's not adjusted properly. Higher numbers for more power. If the trough or a VUK isn't giving you the ball, it needs more coil power.

You can adjust every coil in the game and it can greatly change the feel of the game. The factory settings do not always work perfectly given each game and each environment is slightly different.

#587 7 days ago
Quoted from PSUTownie:

Just brought a Smaug Edition home tonight, my first pin manufactured in the 21st century! The game is HOU, has approximately 1100 plays, and is in like new condition. I immediately set it up in my game room and put 15-20 games on it without issue. By the end of the ~20th game, I had a few beers in me, and decided to start messing with the elaborate JJ game-settings and menus. Since I didn't know what had been changed by the previous owner, I found the "factory reset" option and went for it without hesitation. My slightly impaired thinking was that it would be nice to start fresh, as Jack intended it, and go from there.
Immediately after the reset, I started another game and the ball release coil didn't have enough power to push the ball into the trough, and kept repeatedly cycling. Then Gandoff started yelling at me to get on with it! I opened the coin door and manually pushed the ball out with the coil plunger, and the game played just fine. After that ball drained, the ball release coil would start cycling again and seemingly did not have enough umph to push ball number two into the trough.
Any known issues, and/or fixes for this?
In my mind, and given the circumstances, this "issue" has to be related to the reset I performed. The new software update was previously installed; however, I didn't look to see if the reset wiped it.
Any thoughts/input is appreciated.

Don’t sweat it, just up the ball trough coil setting and keep testing and adjusting and you will be back in business

#588 6 days ago
Quoted from Goronic:

Don’t sweat it, just up the ball trough coil setting and keep testing and adjusting and you will be back in business

That's all it was, thanks. I adjusted the power on the trough coil to "15" and it's back playing like a champ. I wasn't aware you could individually adjust power to certain functions on these games, that's a pretty neat concept.

With that, and knowing now that I am back to "factory", are there any other adjustments others have found to be "must-do's" to dial this title in?

#589 6 days ago
Quoted from PSUTownie:

That's all it was, thanks. I adjusted the power on the trough coil to "15" and it's back playing like a champ. I wasn't aware you could individually adjust power to certain functions on these games, that's a pretty neat concept.
With that, and knowing now that I am back to "factory", are there any other adjustments others have found to be "must-do's" to dial this title in?

- remove the centre post
- open up the outlanes
- set pf pitch to 7 degrees; you may need to up the flipper strength as a result

#590 1 day ago

I was wondering how folks were adjusting the windlance/kickback so that it feeds the upper flipper. My game regularly sends the ball to the right VUK hole which interrupts the flow a bit. Is it a matter of just bending the metal fence or is there a strength adjustment? Right now the fence exit is contacting the rubber bumper just next to it. If it is bent out more, could it eventually damage the ball due to a hard edge there? I didn't find a coil adjustment on the menu...

Thanks!

#591 23 hours ago
Quoted from Pathfinder:

it a matter of just bending the metal fence

yes

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