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Hobbit Owners Thread

By Eryeal

3 years ago

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16 key posts have been marked in this topic

Post #14 First impressions by new owner. Posted by Eryeal (3 years ago)

Post #45 The source of the voice call-outs Posted by Troz (3 years ago)

Post #71 Detailed game review Posted by Vyzer2 (3 years ago)

Post #128 Cosmetic issues from factory and customer service response. Posted by RichieWrench (3 years ago)

Post #214 review with detail and good set of pictures. Posted by Pimp77 (3 years ago)

Post #402 Backglass LED diffuser (tones cold white to a more neutral amber color) Posted by PanzerFreak (3 years ago)

Post #714 Another BackBox light filter Posted by Damonator (3 years ago)

Post #769 Rulesheet Posted by tiesmasc (3 years ago)

Post #1064 Owner fixes and tweaks after 150 games. Posted by pinballinreno (3 years ago)

Post #1113 Noteworthy new owner issues and photos Posted by VolunteerPin (3 years ago)

Post #1358 JJP video on fix kit. Posted by tatapolus (3 years ago)

Post #1706 example of time marks order through delivery Posted by meSz (3 years ago)

Post #2007 Here's the code download link Posted by LTG (3 years ago)

Post #2220 How to install Hobbit Cliffy protectors Posted by mbelofsky (3 years ago)

Post #3613 Nice tip on locktite product for wood or metal screws. Posted by pinballinreno (2 years ago)

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#1364 3 years ago
Quoted from lukewells:

It's all good news until he tells you that if you have the bad wireforms, you need to pay for a new one......
I'm fairly sure it's not my fault that my game was shipped with a bad wireform now is it?

I completely agree with you. The replacement should be provided to you free of charge.

Nevertheless, you can fix your wireform pretty inexpensively. First, install the post that Rob referred to. Second, cut off (or grind off) those nubs on your wireform with a Dremel rotary tool to eliminate the ski jump effect. Third, bend the loop up a little with a pair of pliers. That should solve the problem.

#1367 3 years ago
Quoted from freddy:

so we should be taking a dremel an pliers to our $8,000 dollar games?

If balls are skipping over the kickback switch and you want to play the game, it seems like you have two options. Either pay JJP for the replacement wireform, or fix it yourself.

PS - The Dremel tip was specifically targeted at Luke's wireform, because of the extended nubs on his wireform with the ski-jump effect visible in his YouTube video. I don't think everyone else's wireform looks exactly like that (at least I hope not).

#1379 3 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Widening the prongs that stick out at the bottom of the loop 1/8" (basically widen the loop at the bottom) and bending the loop up about 3/16" to 1/4" will have a positive effect without grinding. this allows the ball to duck under the loop.
I havent had a game in my collection yet that didnt need tweaking of the wireforms.
(Remember On the TZ we all gave up fixes and added a magnet to the diverter).
Most games need a little quality time to get them close to perfect and somewhat reliable.
I expect JJP games to be no differet
The HUGE difference is the way that games are supported during warranty, and after.
The team at JJP is incredible!

Please note, I was referring to Luke's specific wireform. The photos below, taken from Luke's video, show exactly what I was referencing.

The two nubs on the left and right of the wireform rails are just slight extensions from the vertical wires spot-welded to the loop, and on Luke's machine, they are actually tipped upwards, causing the ball to ski-jump up and over the loop. That particular problem, which is pretty common -- spot-welded wireform parts don't typically have very tight tolerances -- can easily be fixed in less than 15 minutes with a Dremel rotary tool. Just cut or grind down to the blue lines on the magnified mark-up in the lower photo.

Installation of the post on the left will prevent balls skipping off the wireform rails and passing the loop on the left hand side. Bending the loop up slightly with pliers will increase the likelihood that balls will pass through the loop instead of skip over the top.

Just a little added TLC for a hand-built machine. Nothing radical. This is a classic example of tweaking the gameplay on a pinball machine.



#1457 3 years ago
Quoted from WackyBrakke:

I went to HQ Beercade in Chicago tonight to play The Hobbit. Sadly there were a few issues :-/ The Goblin wasn't popping up :-/ The 'C' in L-O-C-K would register a roll-over only about 1 out of 10 times :-/ The ball kept getting hung up on the left ramp at the exit. Hopefully they will get the update kit from JJP and clean up these issues. Seems like it could be a fun game, just hard to play with so many issues.

I passed along your feedback to the operator, who is a member of my local league. Thanks for reporting it.

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