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Hobbit Owners Thread


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3 years ago



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16 key posts have been marked in this topic

Post #14 First impressions by new owner. Posted by Eryeal (3 years ago)

Post #45 The source of the voice call-outs Posted by Troz (3 years ago)

Post #71 Detailed game review Posted by Vyzer2 (3 years ago)

Post #128 Cosmetic issues from factory and customer service response. Posted by RichieWrench (3 years ago)

Post #214 review with detail and good set of pictures. Posted by Pimp77 (3 years ago)

Post #402 Backglass LED diffuser (tones cold white to a more neutral amber color) Posted by PanzerFreak (3 years ago)

Post #714 Another BackBox light filter Posted by Damonator (3 years ago)

Post #769 Rulesheet Posted by tiesmasc (3 years ago)

Post #1064 Owner fixes and tweaks after 150 games. Posted by pinballinreno (3 years ago)

Post #1113 Noteworthy new owner issues and photos Posted by VolunteerPin (3 years ago)

Post #1358 JJP video on fix kit. Posted by tatapolus (3 years ago)

Post #1706 example of time marks order through delivery Posted by meSz (3 years ago)

Post #2007 Here's the code download link Posted by LTG (3 years ago)

Post #2220 How to install Hobbit Cliffy protectors Posted by mbelofsky (2 years ago)

Post #3613 Nice tip on locktite product for wood or metal screws. Posted by pinballinreno (2 years ago)


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#2 3 years ago

A gentle tap on the cabinet and right back into play.

LTG : )

1 month later
#109 3 years ago
Quoted from RichieWrench:

It plays but none of the lights work on the playfield. .. Can someone help me on what that could be?

The LEDs plug into boards fastened to the bottom of the playfield, start there and be sure connectors are on tight. Then look carefully around the rear of the metal box with all the boards, behind it and along side. Something came unplugged.

LTG : )

#111 3 years ago
Quoted from JoeJet:

Back of the head is a sticker? I don't get it or the photo...?

The yellow words are on a big black sticker, not silk screened directly to the wood.

LTG : )

#114 3 years ago
Quoted from RichieWrench:

Just another cheap way

No. And way easier to replace later if the back gets scratched or something.

LTG : )

#139 3 years ago
Quoted from craigj:

Are JJP pins metal construction on the backbox?

Wood.

LTG : )

3 weeks later
#250 3 years ago
Quoted from Skyemont:

I'm still waiting for my ticket to be answered. No response yet.

Please pm me the ticket number and I'll see if I can alert it.

LTG : )

#255 3 years ago
Quoted from bemmett:

Lloyd I'm going on over a month without any further help on my ticket, #9079. Should I just open a new one?

I bumped it up to JJP Parts again.

I hope this helps,
LTG : )

#292 3 years ago
Quoted from Goronic:

I think you mean 4 Gig vs 8 Gig.

Do all Hobbits come with 8 GB of system memory? By having him check are you thinking that a 4 GB stick has came loose?

They should have two memory sticks of 4 GB each for a total of 8 GB.

Easy to check. Full Menu - Utilities - scroll down to Hardware Info, that will let you know if 4 GB is in two spots.

LTG : )

#297 3 years ago
Quoted from Concretehardt:

It is mind blowing to see how much stuff is crammed on the underside of the Hobbit playfield!

LTG : )

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#300 3 years ago
Quoted from kpg:

Anyone have any comments on doing repairs or work on it?

Similar to WOZ. It's basically a Williams pin and they snuck a motherboard and hard drive in there.

If you can do basic repairs. You'll be fine. And so far there haven't been many issues with the number of Hobbits going out.

And I would love to assist you, should the need arrive.

LTG : )

#304 3 years ago
Quoted from Pimp77:

I assume this looks right?

If so, what else could be causing the resets?

Looks right.

I'd try reseating the memory sticks.

LTG : )

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#308 3 years ago
Quoted from kpg:

what do you think, LTG?

I think you shouldn't have give me a thumbs down in the STNG GI thread.

#311 3 years ago
Quoted from kpg:

I thought you shouldn't have given me a bunch of thumbs down in other threads either.

What, two or three. I give them when deserved, not for correct advise.

#356 3 years ago
Quoted from sd_tom:

Might be good to collect settings too.

No.

If you are having a lot of resets, please email me the Stats.

Insert USB drive.
Enter Diagnostics: Reports->Stats dump
A file is created under \pinballstats on the USB drive

And if you know when it happens. Mode, multiball, entering initials, etc.

Send to service@jerseyjackpinball.com

Thank you,
Lloyd

#361 3 years ago

For anyone that wants to know. I was having lots of issues since the recent update. Slowing down, stopping, lots of resets. I ran it by Keith. He said to make sure I had 8 GB total RAM in my game. I only had one 4 GB memory stick.

I didn't want to wait for JJP to send me one. So I went and got two of these :

http://www.microcenter.com/product/415422/Ballistix_Sport_XT_8GB_DDR3-1600_%28PC3-12800%29_CL9_Dual_Channel_Desktop_Memory_Kit_%28Two_4GB_Memory_Modules%29

I wanted a matched pair in there with cooling fins.

My game has been rock solid ever since.

LTG : )

#364 3 years ago
Quoted from Skyemont:

Can we use 1 8gig ram or does it have to be 2 4gig ram?

Either, just so you have 8 GB total. My preference was for two 4's.

LTG : )

#366 3 years ago
Quoted from Skyemont:

Is your ram side by side? Is there 2 slots or 4 slots for ram?

Side by side, two slots on Hobbit motherboard.

LTG : )

#368 3 years ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

Are all Hobbits being shipped with 4GB of ram or only some?

All are shipping with 8 GB.

My game had symptoms indicating too low of RAM, which Keith identified, and as far as I know, the only Hobbit out there that this happened to.

LTG : )

#375 3 years ago
Quoted from Skyemont:

If there is only 2 ram slots, I can't switch ram around

Two RAM sticks, two slots. Pull them both out and put each one in the opposite of the one you pulled out.

LTG : )

#378 3 years ago
Quoted from Skyemont:

Lloyd. Can u tell us the specks we need for the ram? The voltage, timings, etc. not just any ram will work. I'm going to bestbuy after work and I want to get exactly what I need.

My link above - read the specs :

http://www.microcenter.com/product/415422/Ballistix_Sport_XT_8GB_DDR3-1600_%28PC3-12800%29_CL9_Dual_Channel_Desktop_Memory_Kit_%28Two_4GB_Memory_Modules%29

Main things is get two - 4 GB DDR3 1600

LTG : )

#381 3 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

If you are going to best buy:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/corsair-8gb-ddr3-sdram-memory-module-black/1853347.p?id=1218297021353&skuId=1853347

This is a 2 stick kit and is very good RAM, 1600 speed and CL-9, exactly what you might need, if you want to try new RAM.

call them and see if they have it.

Those are great. And if you are going to buy some, go with the cooling fins like these.

LTG : )

#388 3 years ago
Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:

Anybody post a pic of ram installed? Trying to imagine where it plugs in.

This is just a generic motherboard. I circled in red the RAM. Tabs on the end push back to release it.

LTG : )

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#453 3 years ago
Quoted from WackyBrakke:

I'll have to try playing one that works

Come on over.

LTG : )

#527 3 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Wildcat 125, CP100 and millwax were the standard decades ago and recommended by Bally™.

And they wanted you to operate your game and junk it in a few years.

We have since learned how to take better care of these machines.

LTG : )

#539 3 years ago
Quoted from bonanza:

Correct me if I am wrong but my understanding is that you should never use ammonia based cleaners on Invisaglass

True.

LTG : )

1 week later
#591 3 years ago
Quoted from Gizmata:

Where do I find the back box key? It's not on the coin mechs like I would expect?

It should be on the side of the right coin mech.

LTG : )

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#593 3 years ago
Quoted from Gizmata:

That is exactly where I looked many times and it is not there. I also checked the coin box and bottom of the cabinet without luck.

Do you have an empty hook there ? If not please check the side of the left coin chute.

If empty hook - did you check under the huge metal box that holds the boards ? And through all the wires in the rear of the bottom of the cabinet ?

Thank you.
LTG : )

#621 3 years ago
Quoted from fnosm:

LLoyd,
Do you know what size these little un's are and how you would reconnect them?

18 gauge. I'd strip both ends, slide heat shrink tubing on one side. Twist together and solder. Slide heat shrink tubing over the solder joint and use what us non professionals use - a cigarette lighter to shrink the tubing. Cable tie the wires out of the way so it doesn't happen again.

LTG : )

#624 3 years ago
Quoted from fnosm:

my current guess is 26 guage.

You are right. I'm sorry.

LTG : )

#649 3 years ago
Quoted from fnosm:

I need some trouble shooting tips for the Smaug head.

A couple connectors below him. Please be sure they are in tight, or reseat them. Look for loose connector or loose wire in a connector.

LTG : )

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#775 3 years ago
Quoted from Twilliams:

I have sent a repair request to jersey jack

Please let me know the ticket number.

LTG : )

#792 3 years ago
Quoted from nocreditdot:

Does anyone have the directions to update the code? I'd like to install the latest on arrival.

Go here - http://support.jerseyjackpinball.com:8081/helpdesk/WebObjects/Helpdesk.woa/wa/FaqActions/ under frequently asked questions use pull down and click on programing/software - select delta update - do that.

LTG : )

#800 3 years ago
Quoted from RobT:

When I use Unetbootin

Please don't use Unetbootin for delta updates. Only use that for a Full Install.

The current 1.21 update is a delta.

LTG : )

#808 3 years ago
Quoted from RobT:

Tried to update and nothing. Like it doesn't recognize the thumb drive, even though the thumb drive lights up.

The game doesn't recognize the thumb drive ? Then the 1.21 isn't on there right.

LTG : )

#809 3 years ago
Quoted from RobT:

Maybe this is talking about WOZ?

Yes, WOZ, ages ago.

LTG : )

#813 3 years ago
Quoted from RobT:

No clue why it wouldn't be

From Alex on the WOZ forum, maybe this will help.

"Download the file. Click on the zip on your mac. It will create a directory named the same thing as the zip file. double click on that directory.

inside it is a folder called woz_update

Drag JUST that folder (woz_update) to an empty usb stick.

Then go into the game menu / settings / usb update / hit enter."

LTG : )

#815 3 years ago
Quoted from metahugh:

Only insert it after the game tells you to,

JJP pins are a little different. For delta update, go to the game turned on, plug in the USB stick, then go to Utilities and do the update stuff.

LTG : )

#824 3 years ago
Quoted from Zavadoza:

Do I need to do a full game install?

NO, delta update.

LTG : )

#879 3 years ago
Quoted from Manic:

Well you have Lloyd in your corner for this title... can't get better than that if you have an issue.

Please don't forget Frank and Victor.

LTG : )

#896 3 years ago
Quoted from konghusker:

So I got it set up. Unfortunately, I have absolutely no lighting. Anybody know where to focus looking. I've gone through connections but don't see anything. Help please. Game seems to play.

Please look under the playfield. Find the rectangular B.A.G. board ( GI Bus Board - page D-34 in the manual ) There is a USB connector to it, push that in tight and you should be good to go.

LTG : )

#957 3 years ago

Is your plunger adjusted so that it hits the center of the ball ?

LTG : )

#959 3 years ago
Quoted from konghusker:

How do I adjust exactly?

Three screws inside hold the whole assembly on. Loosen a little and position where you'd like and retighten.

LTG : )

#961 3 years ago
Quoted from konghusker:

Sorry, dumb question before looking.

No need to be sorry for wanting to learn and do it right.

Excellent !

LTG : )

#1052 3 years ago
Quoted from system11:

I wonder if it's possible to hire one,

Depending where you are, you may be able to rent one.

LTG : )

#1075 3 years ago
Quoted from konghusker:

OK, I see that the two left side pop ups only have one screw in the back if their head. Now, how the heck do I get to it to put screw back in? Looks like the entire assembly underneath has to come off.

Hold the pop up up ( vice grips holds the carriage nicely ) and carefully so you don't lose them, remove the two clips and springs holding the trap door on. Then lower the mech.

Below the playfield are two connectors and 5 screws to remove the whole assembly.

Easiest then remove the whole mech from the bracket. Coil and plunger/carriage.

Remove the carriage from the plunger. Then remove the lock nut and plastic clip on the front of the figure head leaf blade switch stack, then the two screws holding the leaf blade and character head. Then you can get at the two screws that hold the head to the blade. It goes screws - character - metal plate inside the head. Screw them in and tighten down.

Then reassemble everything. And you have three others to look at if you forget where things go.

I hope this helps you,
LTG : )

#1142 3 years ago
Quoted from konghusker:

The cab is wider than my woz by nearly 1/2".

In your picture - is the cabinet coming apart at the front corner ? Doesn't look tight looking top down.

LTG : )

#1180 3 years ago
Quoted from freddy:

is 1.30 released?

1.30P is testing. 1.30 soon.

LTG : )

#1244 3 years ago
Quoted from cscmtp:

I'd love the 3.1 code to anyone that has it. But also is there a way to keep current high scores before upgrading to 3.1 or no?

1.30P is testing, 1.30 isn't released yet.

It's a delta update, not a full install, so your scores will stay.

If you ever do a full install, back up your settings in Utilities first and put them back in after a full install. I believe this saves scores too.

LTG : )

#1326 3 years ago
Quoted from EricPinball:

I can not seem to accept my USB key by the pinball,

Are you trying to install a delta update ( don't use unetbootin if you are, unzip and extract to USB stick, go to Utilities - USB Update and hit Enter ) or a full install - then use unetbootin and do full install directions in rear of the WOZ or Hobbit manual, available online download at jerseyjackpinball.com

LTG : )

#1354 3 years ago
Quoted from Manic:

Don't the four "beasts" have mylar completely around them from the factory like the trolls in MM?

Yes. ( MM didn't come that way )

LTG : )

#1355 3 years ago
Quoted from Lippy427:

Have just started having a problem with the Orc beast not popping up (though it tries) -

At the bottom of the mechanism is a locknut, loosen it, and turn the rubber stopper on the other side up a bit and retighten the locknut.

LTG : )

#1368 3 years ago
Quoted from RJL:

Does anyone know if these fix kits will be sent to registered owners automatically or if they have to be requested by a support ticket?

On the support desk there will be a pull down menu when ready.

LTG : )

#1372 3 years ago
Quoted from RJL:

Does anyone know if these fix kits will be sent to registered owners automatically or if they have to be requested by a support ticket?

And it is on the support desk now.

LTG : )

#1373 3 years ago
Quoted from VolunteerPin:

quick drains on the left will sometimes not activate the kickback even when lit. Any thoughts?

First one I heard of. You might ask on the WOZ/Hobbit forum. Sort out if the switch isn't seeing enough of the ball or if it's software related.

Thank you for your help,
LTG : )

#1396 3 years ago
Quoted from bemmett:

So where do we buy the new wire form if we want it?

Call JJP. Ask for parts.

LTG : )

1 week later
#1578 3 years ago

Two brass screws on the lockdown bar receiver and be used to raise or lower the locking mechanism as needed.

LTG : )

#1621 3 years ago
Quoted from PinJump:

Anyone have any insights on how The Hobbit does on location?

It has done very good for me.

LTG : )
Disclaimer : I am biased.

#1639 3 years ago
Quoted from Meph:

On a side note, anyone have recommendations on a distributor?

Mike Daddona at Automated Services - http://www.automatedservicesllc.com/

Tell him you want the LTG : ) Price, not full retail.

LTG : )

#1658 3 years ago
Quoted from konghusker:

but seems like it should be more sensitive.

Easy to adjust. The leaf blade farthest from the character face, move it a little closer to the one next to the character face.

LTG : )

#1667 3 years ago
Quoted from konghusker:

Does the ball also have to hit beast in back?

This.

LTG : )

#1677 3 years ago
Quoted from WackyBrakke:

Anyone else have trouble with the Ball trough VUK?

If trying different power settings doesn't do it, check this out :

http://www.pinplay.com/5/adjusting_the_ball_trough_on_woz.html

LTG : )

#1697 3 years ago
Quoted from meSz:

Received my Hobbit and the inserts and bottom "GI" lighting is out. Can you point me in the right direction as to what connectors to check?

Follow the wiring from them to a nearby board they plug onto. Something probably came unplugged.

You can download the manual - http://www.jerseyjackpinball.com/game-specific-downloads/the-hobbit-downloads/ and it has LED wiring layouts in it. Page C-72

LTG : )

#1715 3 years ago
Quoted from oopsallberrys:

I am noticing that 2 of my beast mechs aren't registering backstabs. Are the leaf switches the ones I should adjust?

Behind the character face - yes.

LTG : )

#1731 3 years ago
Quoted from kpg:

I have a suspicion that they decided only 3 were needed

6 holes 5 screws.

LTG : )

1 week later
#1836 3 years ago
Quoted from bkaelin:

Is this normal?

No. Open a ticket to get new ones.

Quoted from bkaelin:

I can't get the freaking playfield back down and I want to play this game. HELP !!!!!!

Remove the bracket, bend it straight, replace the bracket.

LTG : )

#1919 3 years ago
Quoted from meSz:

looking for a direction to point him in.

Something is binding it, maybe the hole in the playfield it goes through.

LTG : )

#1920 3 years ago
Quoted from WackyBrakke:

but the computer doesn't come on.

Did you try jump starting the motherboard ?

LTG : )

#1927 3 years ago
Quoted from badbilly27:

Does anyone know if JJP sells the rubber trim that they had on WOZ on the top of the head or backbox?

Contact them and see.

WOZ needed it for the state fair balloon pop bumper. Hobbit doesn't need it.

LTG : )

#1931 3 years ago
Quoted from koops:

Also found my first min led GI circuit death.

You can plug it into a different spot to be sure.

Quoted from koops:

Do JJP sell these yet?

If your warranty doesn't cover it, yes.

LTG : )

#1959 3 years ago
Quoted from WackyBrakke:

can someone send me a picture of what I am looking for?

PM me your email address and I'll send you instructions and big pictures.

LTG : )

#1961 3 years ago
Quoted from metahugh:

I also found this:

Looks like the broken pieces of a part installed in front of the pop up characters to prevent ball hang ups.

LTG : )

#1963 3 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

could be parts of the clear plastic u-channel from one of the pop-up mech leaf switches

This.

30-0055-00 Pop Up Character Switch Locator.

LTG : )

#1964 3 years ago
Quoted from LTG:

30-0055-00 Pop Up Character Switch Locator.

Same part on MM Troll : 30-9808 Troll Guide

LTG : )

1 week later
#2007 3 years ago
Quoted from Monarca1091:

hi guys does anyone know where to get the new 1.35 code ?

When it is released, it will be on here :

http://www.jerseyjackpinball.com/game-specific-downloads/the-hobbit-downloads/

1.35P is testing right now.

LTG : )

#2019 3 years ago
Quoted from FlipMyBalls:

must leave work early and pick up!

Well worth it. Have fun !

LTG : )

#2024 3 years ago
Quoted from meSz:

it appears one of the switches is being activated

Tests - Switches - Matrixed - anything pop up closed that should be open ?

LTG : )

#2041 3 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Bending the upper tab is the correct/approved way to adjust the trough kick out.

He posted ball only makes it half way up.

If it hits the flap and goes back down, this will help :

http://www.pinplay.com/5/adjusting_the_ball_trough_on_woz.html

LTG : )

#2047 3 years ago
Quoted from FlipMyBalls:

Its like the coil doesnt have enough power to push the ball up

How's the solder joint on the lug to the rear of the game ? Front one looks good in your picture.

Please try this - Tape a couple coins on top of the rubber coil stop to raise the plunger up into the coil a little - see if that helps.

LTG : )

#2049 3 years ago
Quoted from FlipMyBalls:

Thanks for the help its extremely appricated as id be lost.

Solder joint looks good. You can remove the quarters, it appears plunger isn't getting enough power.

A big job but please put the full install 1.01 back in ( instructions in the rear of the manual ) which you can download here if you need it :

http://www.jerseyjackpinball.com/game-specific-downloads/the-hobbit-downloads/ and see if things improve, and then try a new download of 1.31

Maybe your update had an issue ?

LTG : )

#2067 3 years ago
Quoted from FlipMyBalls:

I tried to follow the wiring and the little bit i can see looks good before it gets lost in the big wire clump.

Check the rear of the manual for wiring pinouts on the back of the big metal box. Check there, inside, and to the I/O board. Look for loose connector, wire loose in a connector.

If nothing turns up, call Frank or Victor tomorrow at JJP ext 222 for more ideas.

LTG : )

#2098 3 years ago
Quoted from muttonboy:

today my upper flipper quit working.

Please go into Tests - Dedicated, and slowly push the right flipper button in. First lower should register on the screen, then the upper.

Most likely you just need to adjust the one farthest from the flipper button.

LTG : )

#2100 3 years ago
Quoted from muttonboy:

the coils wires go from the coil straight to J107 on the i/o board it looks like, correct?

Yes.

LTG : )

#2114 3 years ago
Quoted from fluffybunny:

is there a menu I can look at to see what switches has been pressed in the current game?

No.

Only thing is Tests - Switches - Matrixed, and Tests - Switches - Dedicated. To flag bad ones, and when you closed one they change colors on the screen. The game doesn't track what all happened during a game.

LTG : )

#2117 3 years ago
Quoted from koops:

The dump stats option

That is in there. I don't know if it will help you.

LTG : )

#2132 3 years ago
Quoted from John1210:

Any ideas with the problem.

Check front, back, left, right. It is binding on something. You can loosen the screws holding the whole mech to the playfield and line it up a little.

LTG : )

#2135 3 years ago
Quoted from mbelofsky:

There are two brass screws that look like they could be adjustments but I don't see what they could adjust. Thanks. Michael

The lever that moves back and forth in the lockdown bar receiver, they lower or raise it so it locks into the lockdown bar easier. You can remove the glass, lift the playfield up and lean back, put the lockdown bar on and see if the lever needs to go up or down.

LTG : )

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#2175 3 years ago
Quoted from koops:

I had an update to my support ticket yesterday asking if they could be picked up at expo

They'd have no way of getting parts to Expo.

LTG : )

#2178 3 years ago
Quoted from koops:

yeah, it was just a desperate attempt to see if they'd want to save sending it 11,000 miles :\

I am sorry it couldn't be worked out.

LTG : (

#2181 3 years ago
Quoted from koops:

I'd hazard a guess the flaps used are unlike any other pins so I couldn't just use another flap I can potentially find locally.

The ones on Hobbit aren't blued. Otherwise a flap is a flap. The game doesn't know what is on it.

LTG : )

#2183 3 years ago
Quoted from koops:

Aren't they supposed to be spring steel though?

No idea. Contact Frank at JJP and ask.

LTG : )

3 weeks later
#2322 2 years ago
Quoted from FlippyD:

Any ideas where to start?

Be sure nothing is binding it - push up and down by hand.

Then the locknut at the bottom of the mech - loosen it and turn the rubber stopper above it up a few turns, tighten and retry.

LTG : )

#2341 2 years ago
Quoted from BShing:

I sure don't like the idea of having to remove a substantial piece of hardware to fix it but I don't see any other way.

Two connectors, five screws. Reroute the wires and then repair them.

LTG : )

#2345 2 years ago
Quoted from Zaquar:

On a Smaug LE where is the game number located on the machine?

Should be on the back of the machine. Or right inside the coin door on the left side of the cabinet above the shaker motor.

LTG : )

#2374 2 years ago

First thing - 5 balls in the ball trough ? Then please go into Tests - Switches - Matrixed, see if anything is stuck closed.

LTG : )

#2376 2 years ago
Quoted from CaptainNavidad:

Could it be some strange opto issue?

You can look at page C-80 in the manual and follow opto wiring to boards and be sure all are plugged in tight.

5 balls in the ball trough ?

LTG : )

#2388 2 years ago
Quoted from fitzpatricksrus:

I worry that if I go in with a soldering iron and slip it will melt half the wiring in the machine in the process. Suggestions?

Remove the two screws holding the switch and move away from the wires as best you can.

I don't know your skill level, if you need it, Youtube is littered with short videos on how to flow solder.

And the LED/switch assembly, push it harder into the start button holder. They snap in very hard and pull out very hard.

LTG : )

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#2441 2 years ago
Quoted from Nepi23:

Could it be that the spring should be changed?

You could remove your spring, stretch it out a couple times, and put back in. It will be stronger.

LTG : )

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#2486 2 years ago
Quoted from denmark71:

is there an easy fix/adjustment for this?

Leaf blade switch - one leaf behind character face, one further back from it. WITH POWER OFF. Adjust/bend the rear one a little farther away from the front one.

LTG : )

#2492 2 years ago
Quoted from denmark71:

switch wires broken- is it repairable

Yes. New switch won't help. Drop the mech, repair and route them better so they don't do it again.

LTG : )

#2494 2 years ago
Quoted from yonizzell:

Do you know if all of the beast mechs are wired this way, or did they figure out the problem and fix it in later builds?

No idea.

A Pinsider ( and I'm sorry I forgot who, to give credit to ) came up with the fix in the picture.

LTG : )

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#2501 2 years ago
Quoted from koops:

so I took that picture to show how it was now impossible on mine.

Huge thank you for sharing your fix !

LTG : )

#2522 2 years ago
Quoted from yonizzell:

I don't think they were ever attached

Heat shrink over the ends - they aren't used.

LTG : )

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#2524 2 years ago
Quoted from meSz:

Any idea as to what they were for Lloyd? Almost looks as though they wired for an upper left flipper!?

Originally Smaug was going to breathe fire and smoke, player controlled. Unfortunately the test game with this kept smoking up the playfield area so bad that you could no longer see to play. So the whole idea sans wiring harnesses that were already made, was eliminated.

How ever if you care to make such an apparatus yourself, you could still add it into the game.

LTG : )
Disclaimer :

Quoted from meSz:(btw Lloyd you can make something up as we're not going to know so make it good)
Wish granted.

#2527 2 years ago
Quoted from bonanza:

Can you use them for lighted flipper buttons?

I wouldn't.

Quoted from bonanza:

Are they powered? 5V or 12V?

Probably part of the dedicated switches and not good for anything else.

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#2537 2 years ago
Quoted from jrcw:

Are there any pictures of this test setup?

Only one. Don't share or post anywhere.

LTG : )

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#2541 2 years ago
Quoted from koops:

Does anyone know what the usb stick is that is installed in the back of the computer chassis?

Quoted from koops:

USB security dongle?

You answered it.

LTG : )

#2550 2 years ago
Quoted from spandol:

. Lloyd, do you think I should do a full install of the software and then update that to 1.90 to see if that helps?

I'd definitely try that.

LTG : )

#2553 2 years ago
Quoted from spandol:

Lloyd, the update doesn't work.

Did you follow the instructions on the website ?

If it doesn't work. It doesn't like the USB stick. You didn't get a clean download. Or didn't put it on the USB stick right.

You got the full install in right ? Then put the 1.90 on a USB stick with nothing else on it. Turn the game on. Then plug the USB stick in. Go to Utilities - USB Update, and follow the instructions on the screen.

The screen should say update in progress, after a bit go black. Don't worry. Let it run until the game reboots. then remove the USB stick and you are good to go.

LTG : )

#2556 2 years ago
Quoted from spandol:

I got the full install and followed the directions, but it says to turn on the machine with the stick installed and it will start the update, which it doesn't do.

For the full install. Did you open Unetbootin and use that to put the full install on the memory stick ?

Quoted from spandol:There was no link for 1.9 full update only 1.01.

Quoted from spandol:

There was no link for 1.9 full update only 1.01.

http://www.jerseyjackpinball.com/support/ it's there - go to Downloads - Hobbit - middle of the right side 1.90 ( this is a delta to be put in after the full install is done. )

LTG : )

#2565 2 years ago
Quoted from docdeath:

I'm sure theses should be connected somewhere. Any advice is well appreciated.

The yellow wire and black wire one isn't used. The other two are. Dig around the rear on the metal box with the boards, under it, and sides, to find the other ends to plug them into.

LTG : )

#2567 2 years ago
Quoted from docdeath:

no PF lights come on.

Under the playfield between the character pop ups, find the board in this picture. Plug the USB cable back in - you'll have playfield lights.

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#2581 2 years ago
Quoted from bemmett:

Link to the thread or post with pictures? I must have missed this before?

It is somewhere in the 52 pages of this thread.

Here is a picture of what Koops did and shared with us.

LTG : )

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#2583 2 years ago
Quoted from Phbooms:

if so what was the reason.

I'd check if the mech is binding in the playfield hole it goes up and down in. 5 screws hold the whole assembly. It can be loosened and moved a little.

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#2593 2 years ago
Quoted from FlippyD:

Which setting makes them stronger or more lively?

More time - stronger. Less time - weaker.

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#2620 2 years ago
Quoted from docdeath:

You have to close the coin door to test!!!!!

Or pull out the high power interlock switch. Top white switch on left side of coin door opening.

Quoted from docdeath:

I have another problem I can't for the life of me figure out. With game play, the right flipper migrates upward. If it was loose, it would migrate downward. The flipper bat rod is anchored really tight. I can't screw it tighter.

You might have a defective pawl that can't be tightened. It isn't holding the flipper shaft tight enough. Give it all you got.

LTG : )

#2632 2 years ago
Quoted from scerik:

I'm not looking forward to those springs...

If the spring is still there hanging on the target, I'd bend a loop or two over on the broken end and hook it back on the hook on the metal they hook to.

They don't seem to break again after that.

LTG : )

#2654 2 years ago
Quoted from docdeath:

Maybe I have a semi-loose connection?

That would be my first thought.

LTG : )

#2691 2 years ago
Quoted from CyberNinja24:

Is the code update to 1.90 a must? I think mine is original code, possibly 1.31?

Yes. A lot more to do.

1.90 is a delta install. Very simple to do.

LTG : )

#2697 2 years ago
Quoted from CyberNinja24:

simply go to JJP website and download? What is a delta upgrade?

Download here : http://www.jerseyjackpinball.com/support/

What I do for a delta update on my pc. Download it and place on desktop, appears as a zipped file. Put a USB memory stick into my computer and format to fat32. Then left click the file once, right click and select from the menu extract All and send to the USB stick.

When done go to the Hobbit with the game turned on. Open the coin door, insert the USB stick into the USB cable on the left side of the cash box. Go to Utilities - USB update - do what the screen says.

It should say "Updating" and then a little later the screen may go black - LEAVE IT RUN - DO NOT TURN GAME OFF. When it is done the game will reboot. Then unplug the USB stick. Close the coin door. Play and enjoy your game.

LTG : )
Disclaimer - If you turn the game off during update, then you get to learn about Unetbootin, full install. Time consuming type stuff.

#2729 2 years ago
Quoted from clg:

What is it that you adjust when the balls are not always making it out of the trough into the shooter lane?

http://www.pinplay.com/5/adjusting_the_ball_trough_on_woz.html

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#2741 2 years ago
Quoted from docdeath:

wanting to pop up but doesn't stay up

Check if the character face is too sensitive and triggering a hit on the way up.

Quoted from docdeath:

what is this the "coil hold"?

Try holding the thing up and then press hold and see if it holds. That is how flippers usually work.

LTG : )

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#2888 2 years ago
Quoted from Lermods:

And how are people coming across 1.94?

Keith posted a link on the WOZ forum as a Happy Thanksgiving present.

LTG : )

3 weeks later
#2973 2 years ago
Quoted from DarkWizard:

where are these forums

Email Jen ( jen@jerseyjackpinball.com ) and ask to be added in.

LTG : )

2 weeks later
#3030 2 years ago
Quoted from cheshirefilms:

Have to assume it's not 12V right now because topper isn't lighting and start button isn't either

On the I/O board, check fuses F709, F713, F714

LTG : )

2 weeks later
#3129 2 years ago
Quoted from KingBW:

A gold (brass plated) captive ball.

Really cool until the gold wears off and you have flecks of gold all over from it.

LTG : )

#3130 2 years ago
Quoted from paynemic:

Do you need to remove the mech to tighten?

If a little loose and you have skill and tools, no. To put blue loctite on, yes. If screws came out, yes.

LTG : )

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#3189 2 years ago
Quoted from Pinball-Pat:

Any thoughts? Thanks guys.

Go to Jersey Jack Pinball .com and open a ticket.

LTG : )

1 week later
#3223 2 years ago

Tha manual is available now on JJP's site : http://store.jerseyjackpinball.com/Parts/The-Hobbit-Parts/

Just like the WOZ one. Photo quality paper, pictures, back story, etc.

LTG : )

#3246 2 years ago
Quoted from mskoenen:

Is there any way to dim the light in the backbox? I looked through the menu, but didn't noticed anything (which doesn't mean it isn't there).

No. Put a difuser over it.

LTG : )

#3266 2 years ago
Quoted from KingBW:

Is the manual you bought the same one that can be downloaded from the website - version 3.0 Dec 2016?

No, more stuff added like the printed WOZ manual. Photos, history, etc. etc.

LTG : )

#3276 2 years ago
Quoted from Buju:

Or maybe a switch needs adjusting back from the rubber?

What I like to do is : turn the game off. Remove the slingshot plastic. Look down on the leaf blade switches. The front long one should just be resting on the rubber ring, not pushing it. The shorter rear one close enough so the slightest ball hit triggers it, yet vibration doesn't. A little tweaking should do it.

Also you might slide the rubber ring around the posts a little, so it seems to have even tension all around, not real tight on one side.

LTG : )

#3281 2 years ago
Quoted from docdeath:

Is manual downloaded from the parts site, or do they send out a printed manual?

You can download a manual from JJP's site.

From JJP's Store you can buy the printed one. Photo quality paper, and a heck of a lot more pages about the development and building of the game.

LTG : )

#3291 2 years ago
Quoted from freddy:

should have come with the game

CD version comes with the game. And there is also one in the software you can view on the games screen. And you can download one from JJP's website.

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#3312 2 years ago
Quoted from Yelobird:

we did recently move it

Quoted from Yelobird:

Thanks for any support.

I'd check the stand up leaf blade switch behind the rubber ring past the two top pop bumpers on the upper right area. Switch #71 on page C-86 in the manual. Be sure it isn't stuck closed.

LTG : )

#3347 2 years ago
Quoted from Sethman:

The beast pop up mechs. The flap on top of the spider doesn't want to sit flush with the playfield when down. Specifically the front edge is up a bit more than any of the others. Best course of action to adjust?

Below the whole assembly is a locknut, which holds a rubber stoppr looking thing that raises or lowers the pop up. You might lower it a little so the trap door is flush with the playfield.

LTG : )

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#3371 2 years ago
Quoted from Asael:

Normaly this hole is used for the aligment of the upper flipper.

Too far away, and wrong place.

Hole was for something changed leading up to production and not used.

LTG : )

#3377 2 years ago
Quoted from Asael:

Are you sure?

Yup. Your flipper would be sticking out instead of lined up with the lane guide. On my Hobbit, that hole is on the near the end of the flipper bat. Not good for flipper alignment.

LTG : )

#3385 2 years ago
Quoted from Bendit:

I cannot do any updates.

Put the 1.90 delta in. I'm sure it will work. If it doesn't, you won't hurt anything, it just won't go in.

If it's a big one and screen goes black, just leave it run until the screen says it's finished. If you turn it off during an update, then you need to reload the operating system.

LTG : )

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#3417 2 years ago
Quoted from docdeath:

If it is the coil,

I doubt it.

Quoted from docdeath:

o switch coils, I assume you have to remove the two flap compression springs, lift off the steel flap, unplug the respective Molex connectors, & unscrew the 4 anchoring screws of the mechanism & pull entire mechanism out.

And then tear it all apart to switch coils. Getting it all back together and having it move freely is a huge time and aggravation ordeal. If it were me, I'd pull it out. Loosen, tweak, retighten, etc. etc. until it moves up and down freely.

I took one apart to make some pictures. And I marked where things lined up and screws went. And still wish I hadn't done that. I spent an hour tweaking things back to normal. I've included what torn apart looks like.

LTG : )

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#3443 2 years ago
Quoted from JamesMxP:

I've worked on it, but can't seem to permanently fix it.

I hate to say it, but remove the mech, try loosening and adjusting the framework better. It can be quite the chore, time killer and frustrating. But well worth it when you get it right.

LTG : )

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#3488 2 years ago
Quoted from PinballBeerGuy:

Does anyone here know how to do this and could give me more detail on what exactly I need to do? A picture would be great.

This picture is a MM Troll, but same thing for your concerns.

Troll face is on the front blade of a leaf blade switch. The rear blade is what you are posting about. See the red arrow. It needs to be bent towards the troll face. See the yellow arrow.

LTG : )

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#3497 2 years ago
Quoted from konghusker:

Lloyd posted on Facebook today that Hobbit and woz code is ready. Didn't say exact release date, but looked like an official announcement.

I believe they will get it up on the website as soon as they can. No idea exact time frame. But shouldn't take too long.

LTG : )

#3598 2 years ago
Quoted from wolv3:

Do you know what size they are? I lost one and can't seem to find it. Tried out home depot but all of the sizes are bigger.

http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/12-6227 Snap onto a 3/16th inch shaft.

I found them at ACE Hardware.

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#3642 2 years ago
Quoted from fordtudoor:

I notice on JJP website there is a download for "Hobbit Change Log version 2.0". Am I suppose to install this too

No. That just tells you what was changed in the update.

Just download and install this one - The Hobbit Delta Install Ver 2.00 (USA Mirror)

LTG : )

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#3714 2 years ago
Quoted from PtownPin:

the kit includes new springs for the drop down targets,

I wouldn't put new ones in until one breaks. Replace one at a time if they break. Minutes to do.

Quoted from PtownPin:

Rubberer post on the left wire rail,

A few minutes.

Quoted from PtownPin:

plastic inserts for the pop up mechanisms.

Those are a real treat. To fit them in and reroute or protect the character face switch wires - lots of time. Depending on your skill level and anything you need to do to fit things right.

LTG : )

#3718 2 years ago
Quoted from PtownPin:

Did JJP provide install instructions/videos?

No.

Quoted from thewool:

Make sure you add the washer fix on your beasts, to prevent their wires getting snipped.

See picture.

LTG : )

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#3725 2 years ago
Quoted from Bendit:

Funny thing is, the top of the spring loop broke. So I just re-hooked it in another loop (so I re-used the original spring).

I bend them over and do this. None of the ones I have bent over have broken yet a second time.

LTG : )

#3736 2 years ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

For the washer fix does each beast mech need 1 washer?

Yes. Unless you like taking the mech out and repairing character face switch wires.

Quoted from PanzerFreak:

Also is it being installed under the top left screw when looking at the underside of the playfield?

Yes.

LTG : )

#3739 2 years ago
Quoted from Wickerman2:

You have to load the images via usb

Yes.

Quoted from Wickerman2:

When do they appear?

Attract mode.

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#3741 2 years ago
Quoted from Ranhorton:

I do need to find out how to add pics like you did.

+ Custom image utility.
- Files need to be on a USB stick in a root /pinballimages directory. The game will provide a browser to select which one you want.
- JPG and PNG files are supported. Size limit is 2MB.

LTG : )

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#3849 2 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

If you order one you might as well order a couple.
This is one piece that should have been made out of black delrin imho...

They never break on MM, same part.

Don't crank the lock nut on too tight.

LTG : )

#3851 2 years ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Do you think they were tightened too much at the factory?

Possibly. Or if a vendor made the whole assembly, they may have done it.

LTG : )

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#3961 1 year ago
Quoted from lschmidlin:

Not sure if I can raise the dropped targets up just a millimeter or so.

You mean like the white nylon screw at the bottom of each target position just for this ? Loosen nut, raise or lower with screw. Retighten the nut.

LTG : )

#3969 1 year ago

Not much there. Binding or motor issue.

Did you open a ticket on it ?

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#3985 1 year ago
Quoted from Indusguys:

how much can I diagnose?

Tests - Switches - Matrixed, push it up, hit the character face - does it work then ?

LTG : )

#3987 1 year ago
Quoted from Indusguys:

Nope, it does not register/work.

Check wires from leaf blade character switch to connector below the assembly. Probably a broken wire.

LTG : )