Hey all - Has anyone had any issues with the Kili Spinner (Right loop)?

It sometimes works. It sometimes doesn't. Registers the whole game / other times it quits mid game / still others - it STARTS working mid-game.
In switch test - it shows the switch as CLOSED (Blocked).

This FEELS to me like an opto that is slightly out of alignment.
I just bought the game and drove it home - So - "Ship Happens"

I agree 100% - the spinner is "breaking" the plane of the opto. I have cleaned it... but the lenses are all down inside the plastic housing.
Oh, well... I'll look more tonight - but I am not certain it will help. I called JJP...

All - My "Bifur" switch is not working... It's switch #81. Before I go through mass disassembly - was wondering if there was a simple thing to check. Otherwise I am going to pull the entire drop-bank mechanism and see what's up. I did re-seat all of the connectors on that line, already... so, was hoping just a crummy connection. But so far - no improvement.

Thanks RDR

Anyone know where to get the Beast Mech Pop Up Coils?
It is listed as "Out of Stock" on JJP's site.

P/N: 23-002004-01 jersey jack

100,000 points is a LOT in the Hobbit... so, if that's your gap, don't count on getting it. ha!

Happens to all of us. The pinsider i bought mine from mentioned he really never "go into this game" My GC score is about 4M. And what a game that was.... I do this all the time tho. One game, first ball - Through Barrell escape and then got extras via "Mystery" "Score" "Mode Qualifiers" and then "Thorin"
So, 4 extras in the queue, plus the initial 2, and 'm still on the first ball...

Guess what happened.... lol! Drain / Drain / Drain / Drain / Drain game over....

I'm still chasing "There and Back Again" 24 modes is my best. It always seems to be my wall. And I can't beat Battle of the 5 armies nor barrel escape. I get there all the time, but can't beat them.

Oh, and if you are just getting into this game - wait until you kill Smaug... that is a GREAT pinball shot... one of the best ones out there. SOOOOO Satisfying.

Ok.... so the flipper fade / weakness is real bad on this machine. So, many multiballs, and such long ball-times, one would expect this issue...

I am assuming others have experienced it too.... Any pointers / cheats to make it better?
I always wondered if there was some type of graphite lubricant you could put inside the coil sleeve to "Help..." (Thinking back to my boyscout days...)

Maybe just replace the flipper coils and be done with it...? But still, likely will have fade during play. If it was just LESS BAD I would really be happy...
I have adjusted the flipper power. Prior to this, after "INTO THE FIRE" the flippers were so weak you could almost not play any longer.
So, I increased the power & it's much better. But as you get into Barrell Escape / and Battle of the Five Armies - the fade is terrible.

That's interesting.... I have even watched some youtube vids of ppl playing Hobbit and they complain about it as well.

I recommend working on "BACKHANDING" the D - W - A - R - F, and trapping as many balls as you can.
It takes so much patience... And accepting that you may lose a ball or two.
I think it's Thorin / D / Thorin / W / Thorin / A / Thorin / R / Thorin / F / Thorin... But I can't recall perfectly.

Then you bash - I think "30 beasts"?
Then I think stage 6 is "Bash 100 Beasts."

If I recall. Once you know how to get there, you can make it fairly easily. Just pick the three easiest modes to do!
Multiball / Easy mode / Collect your dwarves / beast frenzy.

If I make it a priority to get there, and nothing else, I can do it most every game... (Again - this is assuming I try for nothing else).
Enjoy it! Its a fantastic game.

A couple of years ago - I had some trouble with my Goblin pop-up not working (though it really really tries to work). I ordered a new coil and replaced. It really hasn't had any issues for some time. At the time, I emailed JJP and asked them... They responded with the following: "Have you tried the coil settings and seen where it is set? Possibly a bad connection at soldered posts or at the I-O board. Also check the assembly and the switches and use the switch test and see if it could be an issue. Alignment is another factor in the smoothness of its' operation. Moving the unit by hand is not a good way to test either. It could be a lengthy process to get it right. All in all try these items and get back with me."

So, I have looked at this, plugged / unplugged / etc... I just don't know what I am doing wrong. Mechanically (by hand) it's smooth as butter... I changed the sleeve, nothing seems to be binding etc... What else could make it NOT pop up?

So frustrating... Right now I am tempted to just buy another coil.

It kinda tries - It floats a bit. You can see it come up - like a mm. It moves.
And when the ball finder triggered - it popped right up (once).
Hell - it seems like the leav switch is TOO FAR - you really have to smack it to get the hit to register.

I'd agree - it shouldn't be the coil...

Hey y'all - FWIW - I swapped the coil, hoping the problem would move with the coil. But it didn't. All the switches would register during test. But here was the interesting thing. When I would pull any beast upward in switch test.... (with my hands) the "BEAST UP" switch would light and stay lit during test. But when I grabbed the beast I was having problems with, and pulled it up... It was like - glitchy (would sometimes light, sometimes not). So, I simply bent the leaf spring to make it register every time. Once I did this - the beast worked perfectly and has been ever since ... So - All good!

Anyone know where I can get the equivalent part for the "Microswitch with internal roller actuator" is? Part number 18-3005-01...
This is the beast "pop-up-detect" switch.

I see this one, at PinballLife..
https://www.pinballlife.com/williamsbally-ball-detect-blade-with-roller-sub-microswitch.html

This one at Marcos:
w/o Diode... https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/180-5168-00
----> I think this is the one I would need... because there is a diode on the one, now. / Diode: https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/A-12953

Thanks.... but that one isn't coming up in the online search.

its been a while...! I remember now. Thanks.

You guys! After owning this game for 3 years... I FINALLY beat the "Defeat of Azog" mode! I have tried countless times and never could get all the way through. That has to be one of the hardest (and coolest) modes I have ever played / beaten...

If you haven't done it - You have to shoot one of the holes as the 2nd to last shot. And when you do... it holds the ball in there while the Azog / Thorn Death scenes play on the screen... Very cool... Kind of like when you kill the dragon - And the game goes dead and you get to watch Smaug die.

This game - So much to do... I have been to TABA; but never beaten "Barrell escape," or "Battle of the five armies"...
I think I also have never beaten "The Bait" or "Queer Lodgings"

When I think I am tired of this game - it has a way of bringing out the fun again.