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Hobbit Owners Thread


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#7901 46 days ago

Thanks guys I’ll check into this tomorrow.

#7902 46 days ago

Which fix kits are available for The Hobbit. As I understand it, there are heavy duty springs for the drop targets, brackets for the beast doors (to prevent balls from getting caught), and a redesigned left wire form (to prevent balls from hopping over kick back post stop? Anything I'm missing?
Thanks!

#7903 46 days ago

Also,
I would like to add Mezel mods undercab light kit (basic non interactive kit) under Smaug Gold. Which color do you guys think would look better? Yellow or Red? .

https://mezelmods.com/collections/hobbit-pinball-mods/products/under-cabinet-lighting-kit-jjp?variant=35949545224

#7904 46 days ago
Quoted from Mr_Outlane:

Which fix kits are available for The Hobbit. As I understand it, there are heavy duty springs for the drop targets, brackets for the beast doors (to prevent balls from getting caught), and a redesigned left wire form (to prevent balls from hopping over kick back post stop? Anything I'm missing?
Thanks!

That’s all I’m aware of from JJP..

#7905 46 days ago
Quoted from Mr_Outlane:

Which fix kits are available for The Hobbit. As I understand it, there are heavy duty springs for the drop targets, brackets for the beast doors (to prevent balls from getting caught), and a redesigned left wire form (to prevent balls from hopping over kick back post stop? Anything I'm missing?
Thanks!

Better ramp flaps. I still haven't ever installed my ramp fix yet due to the complexity of it.

#7906 46 days ago
Quoted from konghusker:

Better ramp flaps. I still haven't ever installed my ramp fix yet due to the complexity of it.

Thanks!

#7907 46 days ago

There is also an updated right wireform as well that does not have the 'cut out' in the side of it around the top left pop bumper.

#7908 46 days ago
Quoted from Goronic:

There is also an updated right wireform as well that does not have the 'cut out' in the side of it around the top left pop bumper.

What does that prevent?

Is it this one?
http://store.jerseyjackpinball.com/Parts/The-Hobbit-Parts/Wire-Ramp-Right-Hobbit-Chrome.html

#7909 46 days ago
Quoted from konghusker:

Better ramp flaps. I still haven't ever installed my ramp fix yet due to the complexity of it.

Where did you get these?

#7910 46 days ago

Yes. It does not have a cut out to prevent it from falling against the pop bumper and getting stuck. If you look closely at this image:

http://store.jerseyjackpinball.com/core/media/media.nl?id=75913&c=3887496&h=44a0f57465b53b84210a

You can see that the top rail (below the book monitor and next to the pop bumper) has been removed so you can more clearly see the barrel. That ended up being a ball trap and a new wireform (without the cut) was used to remedy that.

If you look close you can see this one has the newer ramp:

https://images.pinside.com/1/91/191eaa17e88d998f17867352c48b39c701232e2d/resized/largish/191eaa17e88d998f17867352c48b39c701232e2d.jpeg

I don't think it is a big deal - but the new wireform does correct the ball getting stuck there issue...

#7911 46 days ago
Quoted from Goronic:

Yes. It does not have a cut out to prevent it from falling against the pop bumper and getting stuck.

Thank you for explaining that!
So far, I haven't had that happen. So I'll wait and see how it goes. But the left wire form has been causing the balls to jump the kick back post a lot! Too bad it's the most expensive one. Wish I could have caught it on sale.
Cheers!

#7912 46 days ago
Quoted from Mr_Outlane:

Which fix kits are available for The Hobbit. As I understand it, there are heavy duty springs for the drop targets, brackets for the beast doors (to prevent balls from getting caught), and a redesigned left wire form (to prevent balls from hopping over kick back post stop? Anything I'm missing?
Thanks!

Is there a Kit to fix the drop targets on the skill shot? Mine doesn't always work correctly.

#7913 46 days ago
Quoted from pacman11:

Is there a Kit to fix the drop targets on the skill shot? Mine doesn't always work correctly.

That is what I have read on the web and here on Pinside somewhere. I submitted a support form to Jersey Jack last night about the kit and I'm waiting for a reply. I will post here when I get the info on it.

#7914 46 days ago
Quoted from Mr_Outlane:

That is what I have read on the web and here on Pinside somewhere. I submitted a support form to Jersey Jack last night about the kit and I'm waiting for a reply. I will post here when I get the info on it.

I am not aware of the issue (or the fix). Can you guys explain?

Thanks!

#7915 46 days ago

I assumed pacman11 was referring to the heavey duty drop target springs that JJ has released. I've already had the DWAR(F) drop target spring break and JJ advises to change them all out at once rather than going back in every time. Makes sense to me.

Added 40 days ago:

They're not heavy duty springs. Just longer.

#7916 46 days ago
Quoted from Mr_Outlane:

I assumed pacman11 was referring to the heavey duty drop target springs that JJ has released. I've already had the DWAR(F) drop target spring break and JJ advises to change them all out at once rather than going back in every time. Makes sense to me.

Ah yes, thanks. I have the newer springs too. I am just replacing them as they break. Only had 2 so far in 3 years.

#7917 46 days ago
Quoted from Mr_Outlane:

Where did you get these?

Jjp sent out a fix kit for us early buyers.

#7918 46 days ago

Fix kits are still available for The Hobbit.
I asked if kits included the heavy duty springs for the drop targets, brackets for the beast doors (to prevent balls from getting caught), and a redesigned left wire form.
They said that I had the kit contents correct. I hope they didn't misread my question, because I am surprised they will replace the expensive left wire form. But that's what they said. I'll report back when I get it.

J.J responded today that they are shipping me this kit free of charge based on the serial number I sent them. My game born on date is (05-19-2016). Machines built after (07/15/2016) do not need the updates as they were installed at the factory.

Added 40 days ago:

Springs are not heavy duty, just longer. Also, J.J. doesn't send a new left wireform (habitrail), they send a post for the ball trap that exists at the bottom of left wireform.

#7919 46 days ago

You are getting a new ramp, gratis?

#7920 46 days ago
Quoted from fnosm:

You are getting a new ramp, gratis?

It’s the return wireform on the right I believe.

My game also had some annoying drains from the -left- wireform for a long time. Eventually I found a good angle to bend the ball catch at the end and it’s never been a problem since.

Anybody have tips for spicing up the game ? I’ve been killing it lately and I want to keep the thrill going.

#7921 45 days ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

It’s the return wireform on the right I believe.
My game also had some annoying drains from the -left- wireform for a long time. Eventually I found a good angle to bend the ball catch at the end and it’s never been a problem since.
Anybody have tips for spicing up the game ? I’ve been killing it lately and I want to keep the thrill going.

I was thinking of the reworked wireform returning to the left. If memory serves the reworked wireform wasn't offered as a warranty to those with the previous wireform. I wonder if this has changed?

#7922 45 days ago

Made it to 'Into the Fire' tonight and experienced flipper fatigue I believe. I didn't lift the playfield to feel the coils though. May have to look into the RC motor cooler fan thing.

#7923 45 days ago
Quoted from fnosm:

I was thinking of the reworked wireform returning to the left. If memory serves the reworked wireform wasn't offered as a warranty to those with the previous wireform. I wonder if this has changed?

You'll probably get a post to install next to wireform like I got. It does the trick just fine.

#7924 45 days ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

It’s the return wireform on the right I believe.
My game also had some annoying drains from the -left- wireform for a long time. Eventually I found a good angle to bend the ball catch at the end and it’s never been a problem since.
Anybody have tips for spicing up the game ? I’ve been killing it lately and I want to keep the thrill going.

Have you removed the center post?
That increases the challenge quite a bit.

#7925 45 days ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Have you removed the center post?
That increases the challenge quite a bit.

Dang, good idea. Nope I haven’t done that yet

#7926 45 days ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Have you removed the center post?
That increases the challenge quite a bit.

Ya, I rely on it and get a drain too often. But my wife doesn't want me to remove it. She really loves this game.

#7927 45 days ago

is Hobbit like WOZ and the Standard is actually the most limited in number?

#7928 45 days ago

I've got the Black Arrow edition, I am assuming this was the latest run and had most of the updates/fixes.. Correct?

#7929 45 days ago
Quoted from pacman11:

I've got the Black Arrow edition, I am assuming this was the latest run and had most of the updates/fixes.. Correct?

Yes,
Machines built after (07/15/2016) do not need the updates as they were installed at the factory. Your build date should be on rear of cab. But Black Arrow was the latest model built.

#7930 45 days ago

I believe the Black Arrow is the smallest run at 750 machines.

#7931 44 days ago
Quoted from Mr_Outlane:

Made it to 'Into the Fire' tonight and experienced flipper fatigue I believe. I didn't lift the playfield to feel the coils though. May have to look into the RC motor cooler fan thing.

You may want to rebuild your flippers. You shouldn't have issues that quick. I have played hour long games with no issue.

#7932 44 days ago
Quoted from CLEllison:

Right?! Weak flipper syndrome would never be a problem again. A few ideas:
Round copper heat exchange pipe wound around a paperless coil.

Ya, I thought about that. But it would probably induce a current into the copper pipe. Not sure how that would affect the coil?
Any electrical engineers out there want to chime in?

#7933 44 days ago
Quoted from finman2000:

You may want to rebuild your flippers. You shouldn't have issues that quick. I have played hour long games with no issue.

My wife warmed them up for about a half hour before I started and I had a multiball going for quit a long spell. Flippers assemblies look new. This game has low plays. But I'll look closer.

#7934 43 days ago

Hi All...just joined the club with a HUO Smaug. So far I love it! I have a question about the fix kit. My born-on date is 7-12-2016 which just misses the date where all machines had the fixes. I have no idea if the previous two owners installed the fixes. How can I tell if the beast brackets, springs, etc. have been installed? I’m not even sure what I’m looking for.

#7935 43 days ago
Quoted from HighNoon:

Hi All...just joined the club with a HUO Smaug. So far I love it! I have a question about the fix kit. My born-on date is 7-12-2016 which just misses the date where all machines had the fixes. I have no idea if the previous two owners installed the fixes. How can I tell if the beast brackets, springs, etc. have been installed? I’m not even sure what I’m looking for.

Congrats! It's a great game. Some easy fixes to see would be ramp flaps are blue steel if fixed, and the beasts all should have a clear insert in front of them so balls can't get stuck in them. Also, a post on the left side of the game next to left habit trail drop.

#7936 43 days ago

alright I am a fool, just figured out you can select a few different skill shots, so thats why my dwarf target weren't always working. lol They are loud though when they reset..

#7937 43 days ago
Quoted from HighNoon:

Hi All...just joined the club with a HUO Smaug. So far I love it! I have a question about the fix kit. My born-on date is 7-12-2016 which just misses the date where all machines had the fixes. I have no idea if the previous two owners installed the fixes. How can I tell if the beast brackets, springs, etc. have been installed? I’m not even sure what I’m looking for.

Go up on J.J.'s website and fill out a service ticket form and include your serial number. They will send you the kit if you need it.

#7938 43 days ago
Quoted from Mr_Outlane:

Go up on J.J.'s website and fill out a service ticket form and include your serial number. They will send you the kit if you need it.

You can see the beast brackets pretty easy when they pop up during gameplay. Should be a white color in front of beasts..

#7939 43 days ago

The drop target springs are another matter though. I wouldn't know by looking at them. But no big deal. The left ramp post fix is. Mine jumps the pop up post all the time.

Added 40 days ago:

New springs are longer.

#7940 43 days ago

Thanks all. I definitely don't have the blue steel ramp flaps or the beast inserts. I'll contact JJP.

--Luke

#7941 42 days ago

Here is the upgrade kit J.J sent. They didn't send a new left wireform. Just the post (like konghusker said above). Kit includes said post, new drop target springs, brackets for the beast doors with screws, and instructions for installation.
DSCN0083 (resized).JPGDSCN0084 (resized).JPG
Remember that machines built after (07/15/2016) do not need this update kit as it was installed at the factory. Your build date should be on rear of cab. So Black Arrow doesn't need this kit.

#7942 42 days ago

Also got another switch error today.
Matrixed switch #15 Subway Entrance (stuck open)
Hole behind Smaug.

#7943 42 days ago

The post is for the left wireform.
It keeps the ball from hanging up.

Balls flying off the right wireform can be adjusted out with discrete bending and flipper power adjustments.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/hobbit-setup-tweaks-and-adjustments

#7944 42 days ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

The post us for the left wireform.
It keeps the ball from hanging up.

Sorry, I'm meant Left wireform. (Corrected above)
My ball is often flying over the pop up post that catches the ball before going down the left out lane?
Thanks

#7945 42 days ago
Quoted from Mr_Outlane:

What about flying off and over the pop up post that catches the ball before going down the left out lane? That's my problem.

Your flipper power is way too high.

Ball is moving too fast.

Adjust the game pitch to 7.1 degrees.

Adjust flipper power so that the ball can make either ramp from a cradled position.

The ball should just make the ramp and slow up at the top.

Then roll down the wireform naturally.

This is essentially how its supposed to work on all games, not just hobbit.

#7946 42 days ago

Thank you. I'll do this!
But why did J.J. update their left wireform to the new style? This must have been a common problem. Unless it's just because they know most people won't make these adjustment.

#7947 42 days ago
Quoted from Mr_Outlane:

they know most people won't make these adjustment

Since entering the home market, JJP has had to go above and beyond anything William's ever did.

This includes making poorly adjusted games play somewhat properly.

#7948 42 days ago
Quoted from Mr_Outlane:

Also got another switch error today.
Matrixed switch #15 Subway Entrance (stuck open)
Hole behind Smaug.

Go into Tests - Switches - Matrixed and toss a ball in. May not have been hit in awhile.

LTG : )

#7949 42 days ago
Quoted from Mr_Outlane:

Thank you. I'll do this!
But why did J.J. update their left ramp to the new style? This must have been a common problem. Unless it's just because they know most people won't make these adjustment.

The last couple of cross wires at the end of the ramp hit the ball and eject it from the ramp.
If a thicker gauge wire was used or if the wires were just a little closer a lot of this issue would have been avoided.
I assume there were additional issues that led to the redesign or JJP just wanted to nail this figurative door shut by creating a non-ejecting ramp.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/hobbit-owners-thread/page/10#post-3171275
Here is a link to a posting from jvspin covering a file sculpt repair of the cross wires and many including myself have bent the end of the wireform up to solve eject issues.

#7950 42 days ago

I keep saying ramp when I mean to say wireform or habitrail.

Thanks fnosm! I'll look into this as well.

The upgrade kit I just got doesn't explain where the left wireform post they included is supposed to go?

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