No joke!

Man if I had been waiting so long on a WOZ and they started work & advertising on another pin before I received it I would be pretty upset.

To each their own as always. I hope your WOZ gets to you soon and you love it!

I personally will not pay over $6500 for a pin period. If tons of others will then more power to them hope I get a chance to play them at some point. It appears that both Stern and JJP are trying to find out how much they can squeeze out of pinball addicts.

A bit sad to see them going out of my price range of reason but if they can really be successful charging $8K+ for their pins then more power to them I guess. Frustrating for me and likely others that refuse to pay that premium but what can you do other than find cheaper pins out there you love?

Whoever does not think both JJP and Stern are trying to charge as much as possible for a pin they can get away with is being a bit naive. They are making plenty off the top I am sure. 8 to 10K for pins that used to be $3500 to $5000 4 years ago in what is still a tough economy does not strike me as just a dramatic rise in cost of parts or labor. I could be wrong but I am highly skeptical about that.

LOL, (Jack is that you )Okay Pindome I will relent Jack (successful business man) clearly got into making machines to provide a service to the community and not make any money. Kind of crazy to me so many pinheads fighting hard to defend a new manufacturer's decision to dramatically raise prices like this.

If Stern increased their prices first you all would of had your pitchforks out but since JJP did it's all gravy. I know even though they haven't shipped their first pins to most buyers they are a new gold standard and worth so much more than what a long time pin making company's pins are worth. Please don't take it personal I just find it a bit odd.

LOL appears you as many avid supporters do take opposing views personal. Oh well, don't know what to tell you other than this is a forum and others will have opposing views from time to time. Even if it is something you are passionate about.

I've played and saw underneath the playfield on a Demo WOZ and while some features were cool I do not see enough to warrant an 8K price tag list or no list. I am not pissed in the least bit as I have pins I love playing already just calling it how I see it. Doesn't mean I'm right at all just my opinion on the matter. I hope all that get The Hobbit love it without a doubt regardless.

I don't dislike JJP I dislike their price point and not sure why better pins will be made all because of JJP. You have to remember not everyone will like the same pins and some people may not care for WOZ. As you said we just see things differently and that is okay.

There are only pics of cab that is the only info really released beside the price point. What else is there to really discuss??