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I just came upon a backglass for a 1942 flipperless pinball called, "Hit the Japs". It is a patriotic (for then) conversion kit from a 1940 Gottlieb "Gold Star". It does have some delamination but still looks pretty good, despite being incredibly politically incorrect today.
If anyone as any input or information about this glass or the machine itself, I would love to hear it. I can post pics if someone is really interested, but let's just say it's somewhat offensive.
Cheers,
Alan
Quoted from RCA1:Those are historically important.
Hopefully people understand the context of the times and don't just find them objectionable without understanding.
Are you asking me to put this in historical context?
Quoted from DanQverymuch:Funny, I recently saw two of the same repro in an antique store in Kaukauna, WI.
How much were they asking?
Quoted from GregCon:Why would it be offensive? In 1945, we were at war with Japan...at least that's what some people would have us believe....
really...well my great uncle was in the navy on the USS Bunker Hill CV-17 that was hit by 2 kamikazes, over 300 dead and 41 MIA......Google it, it really DID HAPPEN, he did make it home..........nuff said
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Do you want to clarify?
Seeing as how a couple of you guys might be interested, I will bring this to Allentown Pinfest for sale. $40.00. Definitely some ink loss, but it is an original.
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I think that's Tojo...
As for offensive, those were the times but people just can't understand things in context and want to bury it like it should never have happened.
My dad was a WWII vet of both the European and Pacific theaters. My mom with in the British Army attached to the Bletchley Park code breaking operation. My wife had an uncle in the AAF who flew over the Hump and another who was a Marine who was on Tarawa.
They are all gone but they would all be appalled at the horrific political correctness of today. They didn't have time to be worried about cartoonish Japanese figures on a backglass. They were too busy staying alive. They would not approve of attempts to bury history because it doesn’t align with tender feelings today.
Quoted from gandamack:This is a title that probably would not get re-made in todays world. Lol.
Neither would Big Indian. Still, I framed a glass from one and it's hanging on my wall.
Quoted from JBtheAVguy:Do you want to clarify?
My comment is made tongue-in-cheek for those who seem to want to re-write history and create a pretend new world wherein no one is ever bad and we are all equally guilty and no one is better than anyone else. Does that clarify?
Quoted from EMsInKC:I think that's Tojo...
As for offensive, those were the times but people just can't understand things in context and want to bury it like it should never have happened.
My dad was a WWII vet of both the European and Pacific theaters. My mom with in the British Army attached to the Bletchley Park code breaking operation. My wife had an uncle in the AAF who flew over the Hump and another who was a Marine who was on Tarawa.
They are all gone but they would all be appalled at the horrific political correctness of today. They didn't have time to be worried about cartoonish Japanese figures on a backglass. They were too busy staying alive. They would not approve of attempts to bury history because it doesn’t align with tender feelings today.
wish I could give you 50 up-votes for that..........
Quoted from vinnypeppers:wish I could give you 50 up-votes for that..........
I miss them, my dad's been gone almost 19 years. At the same time I'm glad they're not here to see the shit show their country has become.
Quoted from EMsInKC:At the same time I'm glad they're not here to see the shit show their country has become.
If it's that upsetting you are always welcome to go elsewhere. I hear Russia and Sudan are nice around this time of year.
Quoted from snyper2099:If it's that upsetting you are always welcome to go elsewhere. I hear Russia and Sudan are nice around this time of year.
Nope, those of us that remember when this country wasn't being ran by woke wackos would rather stay, and through legal means take back our country before its too late. Otherwise our founding fathers fought and died for nothing.
Quoted from jake35:Nope, those of us that remember when this country wasn't being ran by woke wackos would rather stay, and through legal means take back our country before its too late. Otherwise our founding fathers fought and died for nothing.
Oh oh. You’ve gone and said the W word. That means God has to kill a puppy now.
Quoted from snyper2099:If it's that upsetting you are always welcome to go elsewhere. I hear Russia and Sudan are nice around this time of year.
Yes. That's always the solution. Run away.
When I was younger love it or leave it was the slogan of pro Vietnam War people. I'm not ever sure what context you're trying to use it in here.
Most people just want to live and let live. They don't want to be told what to think, or what to believe in, what to drive or how to live. They don't care if people want to be a woman one day and a man the next. They just don't want to be told that they have to accept that and if you don't, then you're a bigot or something else. And have your entire being judged by that.
Quoted from jake35:Nope, those of us that remember when this country wasn't being ran by woke wackos would rather stay, and through legal means take back our country before its too late. Otherwise our founding fathers fought and died for nothing.
Yup, that’ll work for sure! It’s cute you think you can do anything about culture.
Wish people could see this machine as a work of historical beauty rather than instantly turning the thread into a left vs right online riot. Man, current times bum me out.
I don't have an opinion one way or the other regarding artwork made during wartime.
You can have all the political viewpoints you want but it’s IMPOSSIBLE to change culture. All the anger thrown around in the thread thus far is actually all cultural and has zero to do with politics. I wish people would realize this is our current culture and you can’t change it. Woke and cancel culture. Even has the WORD culture right in the phrase! I don't like it either but please realize it's far from political. For the most part, young Americans do not care about politics, only culture.
I only made an initial comment because sometimes I am embarrassed to be a part of this community. No country (or state!) is perfect but I would never call my county a shit show if I intended to stay in it, I would just look elsewhere to live. But to each his own!
If you are all begging for a comment that IS political... Why don't we have an age restriction of 70 y.o. on US politicians? A CBS poll last year revealed the majority of Americans believe that "70" is the age most mentioned when asked what age is "too old" to lead? I agree with this and I will never understand why our political system refuses to make bipartisan improvements like this. Don't they care about us? Don't even get me started on the Presidential Electoral College. Used since 1787, it must be the best way because just look at how great everything in our government is running now? 
Political parties only exist to divide people! Now THAT'S how you BURN down a thread.
Quoted from snyper2099:If it's that upsetting you are always welcome to go elsewhere. I hear Russia and Sudan are nice around this time of year.
I wish I could downvote this 50 times.
Quoted from GregCon:My comment is made tongue-in-cheek for those who seem to want to re-write history and create a pretend new world wherein no one is ever bad and we are all equally guilty and no one is better than anyone else. Does that clarify?
Your attitude will get you banned from Florida classrooms.
Quoted from EMsInKC:They don't want to be told what to think, or what to believe in, what to drive or how to live. They don't care if people want to be a woman one day and a man the next. They just don't want to be told that they have to accept that and if you don't, then you're a bigot or something else. And have your entire being judged by that.
If you're upset that someone thinks you're a bigot you can put work on to understand their perspective. Or not, either way you can get on with your life.
You need to wear a seatbelt and get your car certified, and you probably shouldn't dehumanize people just because you don't understand them, as a general rule. Live and let live, right? Absolute freedom is a myth in a society, and we all participate amongst cultural and legal structures.
As for the backglass, why not offer it to a local Japanese Cultural Association and see if they want to help give you context for understanding it amongst a variety of perspectives?
Quoted from jake35:Nope, those of us that remember when this country wasn't being ran by woke wackos would rather stay, and through legal means take back our country before its too late. Otherwise our founding fathers fought and died for nothing.
LMAO I can't tell if this is satire
Quoted from EMsInKC:Neither would Big Indian....
Big Indian or Big Injun?
Quoted from cait001:LMAO I can't tell if this is satire
It's just an open call for auditions for Fox's 8pm time slot.
I'll leave this here! Thank goodness people do important historical work without always crying about 'wokeism' making them sad.
https://archive.org/details/1998-pinball-and-world-war-2-2nd-ed
Quoted from snyper2099:If you are all begging for a comment that IS political... Why don't we have an age restriction of 70 y.o. on US politicians?
Because they will never, ever, give up the one thing they have while in office: POWER
Quoted from CrazyLevi:It's just an open call for auditions for Fox's 8pm time slot.
I’m just glad Lemon gone!!
Quoted from CrazyLevi:It's just an open call for auditions for Fox's 8pm time slot.
Yeah maybe they can get a head start on hiring another traitor like comrade Tucker Carlson to spew their totally-fake news. Maybe before they are forced by law to cough-up another billion dollars for their highly un-American and highly un-Patriotic BS.
Quoted from Gatecrasher:Yeah maybe they can get a head start on hiring another traitor like comrade Tucker Carlson to spew their totally-fake news. Maybe before they are forced by law to cough-up another billion dollars for their highly un-American and highly un-Patriotic BS.
Settle down Skippy
oh for reference here's a blog post where I first linked to the WW2 pinball conversions.
http://pinballnovice.blogspot.com/2022/06/new-scans-encyclopedia-of-pinball-1.html
Probably relevant to your interests, pinsiders!
Oof. I knew when I saw this thread was on fire it was gonna be a train wreck.
Let's change the subject. What does everyone think about the art package on Pinball Adventures upcoming release Sushi- Mania? 
Quoted from PismoArcade:Oof. I knew when I saw this thread was on fire it was gonna be a train wreck.
Let's change the subject.
Yeah, lets changes the subject, anyone seen any Bugs Bunny cartoons lately? I own the entire Bugs Bunny and Merry Melodies library of all of their cartoons before they got cancelled from...... Well, you know that answer.
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Quoted from gjm:Yeah, lets changes the subject, anyone seen any Bugs Bunny cartoons lately?
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It’s actually pretty funny
Quoted from edednedy:They also made Knock out the Japs, Sink the Japs, Slap the Japs and Smack the Japs....
Don't forget Bomb the Axis Rats.
Victory Games also made other themes for folks taking a few minutes off from the war.
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I knew sooner or later we would find common ground 
Quoted from cait001:If you're upset that someone thinks you're a bigot you can put work on to understand their perspective. Or not, either way you can get on with your life.
You need to wear a seatbelt and get your car certified, and you probably shouldn't dehumanize people just because you don't understand them, as a general rule. Live and let live, right? Absolute freedom is a myth in a society, and we all participate amongst cultural and legal structures.
As for the backglass, why not offer it to a local Japanese Cultural Association and see if they want to help give you context for understanding it amongst a variety of perspectives?
I don't need advice from Canadians on perspective on WWII, given that I had parents, a grandfather and uncles who fought it.
Quoted from gjm:Yeah, lets changes the subject, anyone seen any Bugs Bunny cartoons lately? I own the entire Bugs Bunny and Merry Melodies library of all of their cartoons before they got cancelled from...... Well, you know that answer.
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Warner Brothers still sell those cartoons. They just precede them with a note to give historical context.
You just walking around your house and imagining things being 'cancelled'?
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