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High Speed Restoration (Apr 27, 2014: mof)

By mof

9 years ago


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#301 9 years ago
Quoted from tonycip:

looking good mof..nice job if anyone wants in the club there's this..
ebay.com link

Nice HS, did you do the swap on it?
-mof

#302 9 years ago

yes it turned out really nice.

#303 9 years ago
Quoted from tonycip:

yes it turned out really nice.

Hey!...That could be the first High Speed to hit Ebay with my clear ramp!

#304 9 years ago

Hours 67-70:
Re-installed 6 flashers.
Re-installed 2 lower ramps. (oops, CPR missed a hole. It ain't there!)
Re-installed all plastics.

Give me 3 pops, and install 3 banks of switches... (2 hours away...?)

-mof

#305 9 years ago
Quoted from mof:

Hours 67-68:
Re-installed 6 flashers.
Give me 3 pops, and install 3 banks of switches... (2 hours away...?)
-mof

Home stretch!

#306 9 years ago

Hell yes.

Let's go!

* 3 pops
* 3 sets of targets

-mof

#307 9 years ago

I gotta make sure I have some champagne chilled upstairs. Gimme a minute.
-mof

#308 9 years ago
Quoted from mof:

I gotta make sure I have some champagne chilled upstairs. Gimme a minute.
-mof

I successfully installed the second platen in my forming machine .....so I'm on my second Modelo!

#309 9 years ago

Checking the beer/wine fridge...
Yep, we are good, Houston!
-mof

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#310 9 years ago

Oops hole missing 100%. Never drilled.
Lined it up, and thought I did a great, then when I tightened down the nut over the slings -- uggg.

"Not an ideal hole..."

Whatever. Live and learn. semi-tighten EVERYTHING before drilling.
-mof

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#311 9 years ago

Time for a few glamour shots while I do pops. Final step will be to drill and set up 3 target sets. Done in 2 hours for sure. Need supper.

Enjoy!
-mof

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#312 9 years ago

Hours 71-72:
* Re-installed pops
* Re-installed habitrails and ramp
-mof

I predict a victory lap tonight... c'mon!

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#313 9 years ago

Gimme 3 sets of targets, and some prayers when I plug it all back in.

Are there any precautions I can take before plugging everything back in? Perhaps one dreadlock at a time?

1. lamp test in isolation? (only one connector hooked up)
2. switch test in isolation? (only one connector hooked up)

like that?

I've already tested my GI braids (offline with batteries), and they seem good now.

-mof

#314 9 years ago

Leave the back box open and eyeball the fuses. They will start to sag and glow if they are stressed

#315 9 years ago

Hour 73:
* Re-installed 3 sets of targets
* Wired up pop lamps

-mof

Can I get a drumroll?

#316 9 years ago

GI is working...

Now for the switch test...

-mof

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#317 9 years ago

I will be using ALL old plastics until I learn "where" the wear spots are so I can protect my investment from wear spots, AND building protectors for the more dangerous spots.
-mof

#318 9 years ago

Switch test is really bad. A dozen shorts, and 6+ dead switches.

-mof

Hmmm. This has reduced to 7 deads: (no more doubling up)

2: Left hideout (both switches)
2: Right hideout (both switches)
1: shooter
2: EOS

#319 9 years ago

8 controlled lamp shorts. (where 1 lamp lights another lamp too) but all work.
-mof

#320 9 years ago

Coil test is close!

(done) ball return = right sling. (oops had the molexed solenoids reversed. Easy fix.)

flasher2 = dead... Most bizarre -- this is all 4 flasher bulbs. Might that mean 1 of 4 is dead?

Yep.

Coil test is a PASS !!!

Sweet !

-mof

#321 9 years ago

Why is trough serving up 2 balls?

Bizarre.

Switch test gives me:

center, left, right with 3 balls installed, so all 3 switches are working with 3 balls in, and with 0 balls in I'm not getting any switch results. Hmm...

-mof

Ok - this might be my fault - may be wired up incorrectly. Will take a look at pics. When right is down, it thinks left is down too. Oops, I had too many of the "hubs" on the same screw. There should be two separate hubs in the trough switch area.

solved.

#322 9 years ago

Meh, it's good ole Q43 -- which I have socketed.

Time to look for another 2N3904, oh here we go...

I like being prepared...

-mof

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#323 9 years ago

And within seconds of playing again, it's blown again... Oh boy...
-mof

#325 9 years ago

Pulling an all nighter?

#326 9 years ago

SUCCESS.

I put a few tiny playfield rubbers around the flipper bracket that holds the spring. I am attempting to make it impossible for the spring to bounce back and hit the lane change switch.

I just got in a 15 minute game, before I realized the left hideout needs adjustment -- ball won't leave for some reason... I might swap coils.

All I can say is...

I am so glad I have learned to do a PF swap, and can deal with all the irregularities of a CPR PF.

Once it's in there, you realize, you've NEVER actually played the title before the way it was meant to be played. The light show in HS is out of this world...

My 15 minute game was truly my first ever game of High Speed...

Thank you CPR!
-mof

#327 9 years ago
Quoted from Pdxmonkey:

Pulling an all nighter?

Yep.
21 hour shift. And I may have just won, 155 hours into this PF swap...

I have a lot of people to thank for all the help during this very successful first ever PF Swap.

Big shout outs to my coaches:

Blownfuse, Cliffy, Freeplay40, Pinwillie, Cheddar, and all the tidbits I learned from all the previous PF swap threads on Pinside. Special thanks to Whridlsoncestood and Practicalsteve who both inspired me to get a HS and do a PF swap in the first place. HS was never on my radar as a top-20 1980's game.

The feeling of nailing ANY of these 3 spinners, especially re-ripping the orbit shots, is unparalleled. It feels so good. There is a quality of workmanship felt in playing this High Speed.

-mof

#328 9 years ago

Hours: 74-75
* Troubleshooting errors.
* Winning!
-mof

#329 9 years ago

Nicely done and on little sleep no less.

#330 9 years ago

Victory Lap pics:
Only took 155 hours to be "complete" with the playfield swap -- there are another (15+) hours of fine-tuning left if I choose to go that route...

Yep, she's playing great now... 0 errors.
(epic sigh of relief)
-mof

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#331 9 years ago

Next question...
(I'm new to clearcoats on playfields and best practices...)

1. With HS dropping balls in front of the slings... Should I create some mylar sections to lay down and give the ball a landing pad? I'm already seeing some good dents in the clear from the ball drops...

2. Should I custom-fit a large piece of mylar to cover the pop area?

-mof

#332 9 years ago
Quoted from mof:

Next question...
(I'm new to clearcoats on playfields and best practices...)
1. With HS dropping balls in front of the slings... Should I create some mylar sections to lay down and give the ball a landing pad? I'm already seeing some good dents in the clear from the ball drops...
2. Should I custom-fit a large piece of mylar to cover the pop area?
-mof

I was going to ask if you put down any mylar.. i think I'm going to put some down infront of the slings and by the kick out hole. Take a look at your old play field and see where the worst ware spots are. and congrats on a job well done!

#333 9 years ago

Bonus Round Fine-Tuning: (To get to 175 hours)

(20 hours)
* Install police car mods (1 hr)
* Remove/Drill/Glue/Fill 1 broken screw hole for the apron bracket -- minor issue (30 mins)
* paint black and regrain the ball guides (2 hrs)
* replace leg guides to black plastic (30 mins)
* tumble trough and hand polish it (2 hrs)
* swap out all coil wrappers (2 hrs)
* dremel out all plastics, tumble/polish all posts, and re-attach to new plastics (3 hrs)
* sand base of cabinet (3 sections) and stain/paint it (5 hrs)
* polish 2 visible flasher sockets (30 mins)
* install mylar for the pop area (1 hour)
* install mylar for the slings (30 mins)
* troubleshoot/repair old displays or install Pinscore (2 hrs)

In short, anyone who does a high-quality PF swap for <$1500 is offering a complete bargain. LOL...

-mof

#334 9 years ago

Playfield Swap #1 complete.
Achievement unlocked!

I'm ready for Sorcerer and Seawitch.

Next goal to learn: prepping cabinets for stencils. Both of those titles will need fresh cabs for sure...

-mof

#336 9 years ago

Nice I'm working on the 4 High Speed restorations. Along with 6 Sorcerer & a bunch of others for restorations.

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#337 9 years ago
Quoted from mof:

Next question...
(I'm new to clearcoats on playfields and best practices...)
1. With HS dropping balls in front of the slings... Should I create some mylar sections to lay down and give the ball a landing pad? I'm already seeing some good dents in the clear from the ball drops...
2. Should I custom-fit a large piece of mylar to cover the pop area?
-mof

You will see divots in a brand new pf no matter what if you play.

I would Mylar: pops, kick out from the hideout, where the ball drops from the ramp (right above the upper right spinner) and a small patch where the ball drops from the habittrails

#338 9 years ago

Hour 76:
Adding blue LEDs to trough area
Now it's just fun stuff...

One of my design goals with system 11's is to try and create popping contrasts between warm and cold. Try to use primary colors.

In this case, all my GI and controlled lamps are 47s. I'm aiming to add blue with blue targets, blue post rubbers, and blue LEDs. I'm also trying to stick with the theme. To me, the blue LED light reminds me of the glow of a dashboard inside the car at night, and the outside is lit up with incandescents (I'm talking 80's)

warms against colds. Red against Blue. LED against Incannies...

-mof

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#339 9 years ago
Quoted from tonycip:

looking good mof..nice job if anyone wants in the club there's this...
(fully restored HS with CPR PF installed)
ebay.com link

Congrats on $2425-ebay fees...
That gives me good reassurances that I was wise to not go overboard on my budget for this project in case I ever need to move it some day.
-mof

#340 9 years ago

Great job...mof!!

#342 9 years ago
Quoted from mof:

Congrats on $2425-ebay fees...
That gives me good reassurances that I was wise to not go overboard on my budget for this project in case I ever need to move it some day.
-mof

Its only money! I don't sweat the small stuff
I enjoyed doing the restore, I try to break even but sometime you don't .so someone got a sweet machine at a great price. Hopefully when I go to buy my next machine someone returns the favor
good karma!! play on! great job on your as well looking forward to seeing your next restore.

#343 9 years ago

Fantastic!!! I believe you currently have the nicest Hs out of all of us sir!

#344 9 years ago
Quoted from Chosen_S:

Fantastic!!! I believe you currently have the nicest Hs out of all of us sir!

Ty, but no chance in France! I only hope to have the first "blue-accent" HS.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/high-speed-full-restoration-started-whridlsoncestood-112512

His is the best one I've seen... new cab, powder coating, cleaned up inner cab, re-labeled solenoids, and dozens of mods/extras to tie it all together -- his work inspired me.

With another (50-75) hours I could maybe get into his league... I think I'll put that energy/precision into Sorcerer =)

-mof

#345 9 years ago

Awesome thread and restoration! Swapping out a playfield is such a challenge, I hung my old playfield up on the wall next to my new machine as a nice reminder.

Congratulations sir!

#346 9 years ago
Quoted from Gerrard17:

Awesome thread and restoration! Swapping out a playfield is such a challenge, I hung my old playfield up on the wall next to my new machine as a nice reminder.
Congratulations sir!

TY.
Dang, that's actually a great idea to hang the old corpse on the wall. It gives people something to touch and get a sense of the machine better...

-mof

#347 9 years ago

The only remaining memories of my HS.......

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#348 9 years ago
Quoted from cal50:

The only remaining memories of my HS.

How many casualties from lifting the mylar?

In FACT, that's exactly what I should do with mine -- to get in some mylar removal practice !!!

ty for posting this.
-mof

#349 9 years ago
Quoted from mof:

How many casualties from lifting the mylar?
In FACT, that's exactly what I should do with mine -- to get in some mylar removal practice !!!
ty for posting this.
-mof

Actually zero casualties.
I used freeze spray and the mylar came right off with no effort lifting paint. The little paint you can see on the mylar was from the bubbled and already lifted mylar around the inserts. It looked like crap so it was worth the risk to try it. There are some real horror stories on system 11 games and pulling mylar. I have done my HS and WW without any problems. The adhesive on the HS was pretty sticky stuff and I used the citrus based stripper on it and it came off with some effort. Lighter fluid did VERY little to the adhesive.

My WW mylar trophy~

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I must be weird but pulling mylar is fun.

#350 9 years ago

Hour 77: Swapped out old displays for Pinscore LED displays. Looks good.
-mof

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