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High Speed Restoration (Apr 27, 2014: mof)


By mof

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#1 5 years ago

This lovely High Speed came from the historic Starbase Arcade http://www.starbasearcade.com/ in San Rafael, CA. Unfortunately SBA's doors closed last summer. My friend knows the owner well, and lined me up with first shot at owning this historic High Speed when it came up. It was originally bought 2 weeks after it hit the market in 1986.

With a CPR playfield in my "shop", when I initially went to review it, I just took one look at the cabinet and backglass, and said, "Yes."

I picked it up last night. 'Silver Ball' in Novato is rebuilding the MPU and I'll get a chance to turn it on next week.
Hopefully, I'll have a few parts cleaned and polished before it gets powered on.

Once again, I'm very grateful to have good friends, good luck, and the good fortune to live in an area where nice machines pop every now and then...

This time around, I'm going to take off running without a plan. I'll take nightly notes on progress, including what hour I'm on, and I'll keep a set of open questions that I have in the following post, along with my shopping list, and total expenses beyond the base cost of the pin. I'm hoping to keep my upgrade shopping list to <$1700.

Enjoy the story and pics that follow...

TOC:

playfield swap begin: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/high-speed-restoration/page/5#post-2132083


-mof

#2 5 years ago

=================
OPEN QUESTIONS
=================

1) What is the best way to remove the lower board of the cabinet in order to sand and paint it?

2) Is there a way I can repair the chunk in the front of the cabinet without doing an entire re-paint of the entire cabinet? I would grade the cabinet a flawed 8 overall, and I'd like to try and touch it up, and learn from that process before giving up and doing a full re-do of all the cabinet art ground-up.

3) What are the correct screws to mount the lockdown bar receiver into the cabinet? I have an assortment in mine, so I don't have the "correct answer" for this one just yet.

4) How can I make the top edge of the lockdown bar receiver shiny and uniform? Can I do it with a chemical, or must I resort to buffing it out?

=====================
ANSWERED QUESTIONS
=====================

* How can I replace the ground wire to make it tight and shiny?
(Get new ground wire, an air compressor, staples, and a staple gun: DONE)

* What is special about the transformer brackets, and why did they not tumble to a perfect shine?
(possibly a special glue is caked on there?)

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PARTS/GRADES
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* Apron: 9: has a few scratches that are "character flaws", not worth a replacement.
* Boards: 6: A bit dark and hacky in spots. May need to do some surgery, we'll see.
* Body: 8-: will attempt to repair and keep as-is (experiment).
* Backglass: 9: near perfect, with one bizarre knick of paint missing.
* Inner Cab: 8: Lower will need a sand/cleaning. Upper Inner black sides will need touch up for sure.
* Legs/"Feet": 8: Outside are sharp, inside are rusty as usual. Will swap them with new if I need to with another Williams.
* Shooter and Assembly: 8: All good, tumbling it now.
* Side Rails: 9: Flat and clean
* Transformer: 9: Looks like new. Best one I have (appearance-wise)

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PARTS: $1455: (Budget $1700)
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Flipper Bats/Assemblies/etc: (x3): $115
Flipper Buttons: (wrong colors): $5
Playfield: $750
Plastics: $150
Pop caps: $25+
Pop assemblies: $30
Stationary targets (15): $100
Stoplight: $25
Ramp: $125
Rubber Set: $20
Cop car mods: $40
Flipper Coils: $20
New Glass: $25
Paint: $5
1/8" Wire Braid: $10
A few LEDs: $10

Shopping Questions:
1. Do I replace (ALL or 1 stationary targets?) (I am concerned these may look worn with a new PF in there. May need to purchase 15 targets for ($6.50 each) ~$100... http://www.pbresource.com/pfswitch.htm#wmssu -- I guess I'll go new, and sell the old set... ?
2. Am I going LEDs? (That's $100+)
3. Do replace displays or learn to repair the old plasmas?

#3 5 years ago

Playfield Swap Preparation

DONE (157 hours total)
* buy thicker ground braid wire
* get a drill bit for the pop bumper nails
* get a re-drill template
* drill bit stops
* ensure correct set of bits for the posts, etc.
* remove all items under playfield
* remove all items on top of playfield
* install molex connectors for all major soldered components under the PF

TASKS
* install protectors for plastics
* re-grain metal orbit parts

Completed (hours 1-80)
Hour 1: Clean and Wax the cabinet
Hours 2-3: Clean up Legs with coke and tinfoil
Hour 4: Install legs and mount head
Hours 5-6: Troll cabinet for parts, and clean it out
Hour 7: Clean apron, install cabinet hinge-block
Hour 8: Tumble shooter assembly
Hour 9: Tumble Transformer bracket
Hour 10: Clean cabinet floor
Hour 11: Clean lockdown bar receiver
Hour 12: Clean coin door area
Hour 13: Adjust and assemble shooter
Hours 14-15: Assemble lockdown bar receiver, clean coin door switch, clean and install power switch
Hour 16: Clean under transformer board
Hours 17-19: Clean backbox and lamp board, tumble door brackets
Hour 20: Clean + Polish speaker panel trim
Hours 21-22: Clean coin door by hand (didn't remove parts yet)
Hours 23-25: Paint pen on cabinet, coin door, and backbox to clean up the look
Hour 26: cleaned and added caps to test switches in coin door
Hour 27: Installed black flippers as a trial
Hour 28: Fixed GI cable in backbox
Hour 29: Cleaned up stoplight
Hour 30: Replaced flipper switches with new parts
Hour 31: tumbled front end parts
Hours 32-37: Three flipper assemblies re-built
Hours 38-41: Rebuilt 3 pops
Hours 42-44: rebuilt lower 6 stationary targets with new parts, replaced skirts from white to blue
Hours 45-47: removed and cleaned ramp, and replaced it. Drilled better EOS holes.
Hours 48-50: Drilled out a broken screw, added blue lamps under PF. Tightened posts (missing nuts of course)
Hour 51: Switch adjustments
Hours 52-53: Coil test and fuse test
Hours 54-55: Installed new left red-yellow-green targets
Hour 56: Installed new blue Cliffy post sleeves
Hours 57-59: Tumbled 6 brackets. Aligned Lockdown Receiver. Removed Stoplight. Replaced hacked post.
Hours 60-61: Cleaned/polished/tumbled and reassembled all 6 solenoid assemblies with vertical brackets
Hour 62: Painted stoplight yellow
Hour 63-65: Re-do Spinners
Hour 66: Remove bells from flipper return frames, and install new set
Hour 67: Install new plastics, and verify I have the supporting hardware
Hours 68-69: Left Side Shop: Polished posts, screw heads, cleaned plastics, new rubbers, installed new nylon nuts and acorns
Hour 70: Packaged up and shipped out old ramp
Hours 71-72: Right Side Shop: Polished posts, screw heads, cleaned plastics, new rubbers, installed new nylon nuts and acorns
Hours 73-75: Removed backboard to playfield, dremeled new hole, bondo, sanded, painted, and mounted stoplight.
Hour 76: Attached and aligned stoplight
Hours 77-79: Installed new ramp, adjusted ramp switches. Installed another 3-prong socket, this time for: Q47 for the switch matrix. IJ8-7 was out.
Hour 80: installed two new fresh diodes on the L and R flipper switches, to see if the switch matrix issue goes away.

Playfield Swap (hours 1-77)
Hour 1: Remove Playfield
Hours 2-4: Molex and remove all solenoid components (14)
Hours 5-7: Prep new PF with Varathane
Hour 8: Clean out cabinet again
Hour 9: Molex pop bumpers
Hour 10: Remove apron and polish handles
Hours 11-12: Unscrew 12 switches, and tape down all the screws
Hours 13-15: Handle all the pass-through wires, and wires that solder into the GI braid
Hours 16-17: Add GI braid to new PF
Hour 18: Remove GI bulbs from old PF and tumble if necessary
Hours: 19-21: Install GI sockets
Hour 22: Hammer in 25 T-nuts
Hours 23-24: Remove old pops and pop nails, and install pop nails
Hour 25: Install inlane/outlane switches
Hours 26-27: Shotgun clean wiring harness
Hours 28-29: Install wire guides
Hours 30-60: Reinstall wiring harness and components
Hours 61-62: Uninstall and install wood rails
Hours 63-73: Uninstall and install topside
Hours 74-75: Run system tests and resolve wiring issues
Hours 76-77: Add fun lamps, and re-align 2 components that need it
-mof

#4 5 years ago

Hour1: Clean and Wax the cabinet

Here's the cabinet after 1 hour of cleaning and waxing.
I am really pleased with the cabinet -- I don't feel compelled to send this out for a cab re-do.
Tomorrow I'll take a closer look at the playfield.
Tonight we tumble the feet and leg bolts.

Enjoy the pics!
-mof

Love the Rav4 for moving pins...
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The Right Side is Right!
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The left side is nice too!
201404-HS-left-side.jpg

Rear side has some staples on there -- four. I wonder what they were for?
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Coin Door deserves a repaint for sure...
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Top side and a sneak peak at the well-played playfield =)
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Back of the Head is shiny too!
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#5 5 years ago

Looks like no planking on the cab or bb.

#6 5 years ago
Quoted from MustangPaul:

Looks like no planking on the cab or bb.

I agree. My initial thoughts are to keep this original paint job... I'd say the cabinet is a 7+ or 8-. It has some scuffs, and a chunk missing in the front, however outside of the blemishes, it's smooth to the touch, appears to have no fade, holds a good gloss, and the wood/paint looks healthy.

Sometimes, I want to grade something it's high and low score. Often times, something is really nice, but then there are a few character flaws... I'd call this a quality 8 with blemishes at a 6... So a weak 8. =)

Eventually, I may take a stab at touching up some of the black by hand...

Is it possible to repair a front-side chunk, and do some minor touch ups in the black without a full body re-do?

I think I'd like to give it a shot eventually...

-mof

#7 5 years ago

Slow and steady wins the race.

The tumbler makes me feel like I just bought 8 brand spankin' new leg bolts. The Leg levelers are a little rough, but much better than before. I have new ones, but I see no need to install them until I have a machine ready for a Best in Show contest... I'm years away from that.

I'd like to make the legs nice before reassembling. I have Evapo Rust coming on Monday.

-mof
Before...
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Shiny!
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#8 5 years ago

Cool! I'd love to own a high speed some day. Looking forward to the progress.

#9 5 years ago

What media do you use in your tumbler? I have never been satisfied with my tumbler.

#10 5 years ago
Quoted from Lonzo:

What media do you use in your tumbler? I have never been satisfied with my tumbler.

Flitz polish. Using Walnut Media right now (got it from Petco). I've only tried Walnut media so far. Just started tumbling last month, so I can only report that I think the Flitz "may" do better than the Noxon I tried.
-mof

#11 5 years ago
Quoted from rottenrobert1313:

Cool! I'd love to own a High Speed some day. Looking forward to the progress.

Thanks! However, I reckon it's going to be a Slow Speed project... since I have two open projects right now...

Embryon
High Speed

-mof

#12 5 years ago

Mof, are you fully restoring more than two games now? You are one crazy badass MOFo!

#13 5 years ago
Quoted from mof:

Eventually, I may take a stab at touching up some of the black by hand...

I have been using the DacoColor paint pens from Marvy, the fine and ultra fine point on the blacks for both pf, cab and bb with great results on my HS and Getaway. Have you tried them?

#14 5 years ago
Quoted from MustangPaul:

I have been using the DacoColor paint pens from Marvy, the fine and ultra fine point on the blacks for both pf, cab and bb with great results on my HS and Getaway. Have you tried them?

The work great but do not use them if you ever plan on clear coating the playfield. They will run.

#15 5 years ago

Hours 2 and 3...
Just tried my first coke + foil experiment. Followed it up with Noxon (which didn't do much)
You will call me crazy.
This is the first pin, where I'm, cleaning/waxing body/legs/"feet" before I...
EVEN raise the head and review the PF + parts...
Yep. Practicing planning + patience... whew... tough...
-mof

PS: Just heard from Bob, that the MPU is ready for p/u. Should see it by Friday night...

Before(left) + After(right)
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#16 5 years ago

2 hours later, we have 4 sexier legs. Yes, I'll buy new next time (or this time), but I *had* to try it myself to appreciate buying them new.
-mof

4 legs
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Installing the Pinball Life Cabinet Protectors just for good measure. I realize it's a little too late on this cabinet, but they are going on...
201404-HS-pinball-life.jpg

#17 5 years ago

Yes, I plan to polish the entire machine bolt by bolt, screw by screw.
Head bolts too?
Yep...
-mof

201404-HS-headbolts-polished-too.jpg

#18 5 years ago

Hour 4...
But can she stand on her own four feet after all that coke, foil, and polish?
yep...

Supper, then the head goes up...

-mof
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#19 5 years ago

Subscribed.

#20 5 years ago

soaking parts in Apple cider vinegar also works great for getting rust off of legs and metal ramps.

Looking good

#21 5 years ago
Quoted from Lonzo:

The work great but do not use them if you ever plan on clear coating the playfield. They will run.

Oh your going to CC it.

#22 5 years ago

Lookin real fine. Nothing wrong with attention to detail.

#23 5 years ago

And finally... Here's the playfield and some close ups.
I am trying to figure out what parts I'll need to replace.
If you have any suggestions from experience or the photos, feel free to chime in.
-mof

Here is a good look at a playfield that gave 27 years of service...
201404-HS-old-PF.jpg

Backglass is near perfect
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1 good cap
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Reviewing the sets of standups... guess I need one red.
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Spinners need total re-do
201404-HS-redo-all-spinners.jpg
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Strange entrance to the ramps... mylar over the ramp?
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#24 5 years ago

Matching flippers bats and rubber
New Caps
Spinners, as you said
Plastic set (should be easy with all the new CPR sets recently sold)
Couple of targets
Elbow grease

#25 5 years ago

And a nice new clear ramp! Starting production today.

#26 5 years ago
Quoted from eh97ac:

Matching flippers bats and rubber
New Caps
Spinners, as you said
Plastic set (should be easy with all the new CPR sets recently sold)
Couple of targets
Elbow grease

Check on most of that...

I've got:
* CPR PF
* CPR plastics
* bats + rubbers
* spinner decals on order
* rubber set on order
* elbow grease on order
PLUS of course...
* new metal/plastic pop bumper parts...
* new flipper button switches
* flipper rebuild kits + brackets
-

NEED TO GET
1. Where should I get the colored targets for HS from?
2. I see the "repro" caps at BAA, but are they opaque like the NOS ones? I'd sure rather get NOS
-mof
3. clear ramp from freeplay!!!

#27 5 years ago

Hours 5,6:
Now it's time to lift the PF and test our angling skills.
It's time to play that fun game, "trolling for history!"
-mof

The trolling begins...
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I caught something !!!
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All the treasure...
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A few parts missing...
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All cleaned out... my nose is full of black crap... Will wear a mask next time. =(
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Nice.
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#28 5 years ago

Looks like you've got your work cut out for you on this one mof! Will be cool to follow along during the process - she'll be a beauty when you're done!

#29 5 years ago

Hour 7:
Time to examine the apron. Is it a keeper?
-mof

What do you think?
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A little citrus cleaner on that middle splotch, using a credit card to slowly remove it layer by layer...
A little wax...

Keeper!
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#30 5 years ago

I am stripping a populated HS playfield that I recently got as part of deal. Let me know if I can help you out with some parts (I'm not looking to get rich). I have the pop bumper caps and targets for sure.

#31 5 years ago
Quoted from floyd1977:

I am stripping a populated HS playfield that I recently got as part of deal. Let me know if I can help you out with some parts (I'm not looking to get rich). I have the pop bumper caps and targets for sure.

pm sent!

#32 5 years ago

Hour 7 continued...
Have you ever noticed how System 11's don't have that block of wood that stops the playfield from pivoting past a certain point?

Without it, the playfield snaps right into the glass - rather shocking that they shipped this way...

Solved!
-mof

Gap to close:
201404-HS-PF-hinge-mod1.jpg

Install a little 1" x 2" block of wood. (painted mine white)
201404-HS-pf-hinge-mod5.jpg

Now check out my clearance, and safety!
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#34 5 years ago

Hour8...
Finally got the shooter assembly out. Had to Dremel it to just get it out...
Parts are in the Tumbler...
-mof

Here's a great tool to open the e-clip...
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201404-HS-e-clip-tool.jpg

Here's my Dremeled Shooter...
201404-HS-shooter-fixed.jpg

#35 5 years ago

Hour 9:
I decided to dismantle the transformer, and clean it up a little... I've never tinkered with one before.
Then I decided to try scrubbing bubbles on the board that supports the transformer. a LOT of gunk came off. I did 3 applications, then gave it a very light waxing. It looks nice, but I know a sanding will be better eventually.

This is one *really* sexy transformer. It almost looks new to me.
201404-HS-transformer1.jpg
201404-HS-transformer-sexy-time.jpg

These parts went in the tumbler...
201404-HS-transformer2.jpg

Here's the board after the cleaning...
201404-HS-scrubbing-bubbles.jpg

There are still speckles of original spray left in the grain...
201404-HS-still-some-speckles.jpg

What's up with the brackets? They didn't polish up much... Odd...
201404-HS-transformer-brackets.jpg

Transformer installed, is it handsome?
201404-HS-handsome!.jpg

#36 5 years ago

Looks great. It's all in the details.

#37 5 years ago
Quoted from mof:

Eventually, I may take a stab at touching up some of the black by hand...
Is it possible to repair a front-side chunk, and do some minor touch ups in the black without a full body re-do?
I think I'd like to give it a shot eventually...
-mof

I redid an F-14 Cabinet basically by hand. Re-sanded, but left enough of the art for me to reproduce. I saved a before/after photo of the front of the cabinet that was in really bad shape so I wouldn't forget what it looked like before the restore. Cabinet was painted with acrylics then clear coated with Varathane Diamond.

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#38 5 years ago

Hour 11:
Here's a strange one... no rust on the lockdown bar receiver! Just crud, and of course with 30 minutes of elbow grease and mean green, the crud is gone... Hmm... It seems a little neurotic to now go polish it to "perfection" with a wheel, when it's not even scratched...

I wonder what my options are for the top edge of the lockdown bar receiver?

I'll take a pic tonight of how imperfect it looks now that it's perfectly clean...

-mof
201404-HS-lockdown-bar-receiver-elbow-grease.jpg

#39 5 years ago
Quoted from Freeplay40:

I redid an F-14 Cabinet basically by hand. Re-sanded, but left enough of the art for me to reproduce. I saved a before/after photo of the front of the cabinet that was in really bad shape so I wouldn't forget what it looked like before the restore. Cabinet was painted with acrylics then clear coated with Varathane Diamond.

Really nice. I hope to jump in on the woodworking side soon... It's all fun stuff.
-mof

#40 5 years ago

Keep up the good work. And thanks for sharing with us.

You're going to have a great game when you're done with this.

Mike O.

#41 5 years ago
Quoted from mof:

Really nice. I hope to jump in on the woodworking side soon... It's all fun stuff.
-mof

I this case I simply "sliced" off the bottom of the cabinet just below the bottom of the coin door and put in a new piece of wood. Can't tell.

#42 5 years ago

Great job, keep up the good work.

#43 5 years ago
Quoted from Spybryon:

Great job, keep up the good work.

Quoted from MikeO:

Keep up the good work..

Ty!
My respect for people who do full restores is going up exponentially by the night...

-mof

#44 5 years ago

Hour 12:
Bought some different cleaners tonight to try on the coin door wood.
Left side got the carpet cleaner. Right side got Bleche Wite.
The right side bubbled a little bit, and I'm pretty sure more gunk came up on the left side.
Perhaps I'll try the test again in the rear lower cab wood area and see what happens.
Bottom line, is tons of gunk came up. It was suggested to grab a tool to edge better, and that made a huge difference.
Also, I learned that the black speckles on the center transformer board are not dirt. It's overspray from the original cabinet paint job! That's really good to know!
-mof

Before (coin door front cabinet area)
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After
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It's not DIRT !!! It's overspray =)
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#45 5 years ago

Gotta have the right tools for the job...
This little guy did great on the edges...
Can you see the E-Clips that turned up underneath all the crud?
-mof

Nice Tool !
That little pile about the size of a quarter is what I got out tonight after I was *sure* it was spotless last night. Now you can eat off it.
201404-HS-tool-works.jpg

Free E-Clips!
201404-HS-spot-the-3-clips.jpg

#46 5 years ago

Hour13:
Shooter is back together and solid as hell. I think it's a lethal weapon. I might drop the spring down a few notches, to save on the ramp, we'll see...
-mof
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#47 5 years ago

Hours 14-15:

* Master power switch re-installed with super shiny plate...
* Lockdown receiver reassembled. Feels awesome...
* Coin door switch super clean now...

The reward of hours 14-15 is seating the lockdown bar into the lockdown receiver and having it FEEL perfect. Wow... If you have any dirty lockdown bar receivers/lockdown bars -- give yourself a little gift and take 2 hours and clean the hell out of them and remount them, you'll be GLAD you did!

-mof

Shiny !!!
201404-HS-super-shiny-746.jpg

Red plastic cleaned up good...
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Locked and loaded !
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Very clean!
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Here's the new view of the interior. Still lots to do, but it's looking rather respectable now. You can eat off the floor now...
201404-HS-Much-nicer-inside-cabinet.jpg

(And here's where we started on Sunday)
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#48 5 years ago

Hi! Nice you're doing a HS restoration! I'm doing one too and will keep an eye on your progress. Maybe I can get some tips and ideas along the way! Good luck with the project =)

#49 5 years ago
Quoted from TheRingMaster:

Hi! Nice you're doing a HS restoration! I'm doing one too and will keep an eye on your progress. Maybe I can get some tips and ideas along the way! Good luck with the project =)

Yep, I've been watching yours closely... Looking forward to seeing how things go.
-mof

#50 5 years ago
Quoted from MustangPaul:

I have been using the DacoColor paint pens from Marvy, the fine and ultra fine point on the blacks for both pf, cab and bb with great results on my HS and Getaway. Have you tried them?

Sounds awesome. I'll try 'em. Shipped !
-mof

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