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High Speed Club ~ Dispatch, this is 504. We have a Club now, over.

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#3201 4 years ago

Got my parts today! Was too lazy to route lamp leads (didn't get stiff leads, doh) so I'll mess with those tomorrow. Need to whip out the Dremel and sanding bit to knock out the star rollovers, too. Hopefully I'm working from home soon and I can knock those out when I take breaks... Lol
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#3202 4 years ago

It's coming along! You know that there should be 2 of the 5" bands around the back diverter unit right.

#3203 4 years ago

A little pinball porn for y'all while we try to avoid COVID-19.

Started sanding my cabinet the other day and came to the conclusion rather quickly that it would be way too much work and maybe not even possible to restore this cabinet back to top notch quality. Cab_rot1 (resized).jpgCab_rot1 (resized).jpgThe top laminate is separating from the lower layer, not good.cab_rot3 (resized).JPGcab_rot3 (resized).JPGCab_rot2 (resized).jpgCab_rot2 (resized).jpgThe water rot has taken a big toll on the wood structure.

While I wait for the cabinet to arrive, hopefully within the next couple weeks, I am exercising my OCD by replacing and labeling the 34 year old yellowed Molex connectors.IMG_5352 (resized).JPGIMG_5352 (resized).JPGIMG_5353 (resized).JPGIMG_5353 (resized).JPGIMG_5362 (resized).JPGIMG_5362 (resized).JPGLabeling will make for quick troubleshooting and diagnostics down the line.IMG_5350 (resized).jpgIMG_5350 (resized).jpgIMG_5351 (resized).JPGIMG_5351 (resized).JPGIMG_5363 (resized).JPGIMG_5363 (resized).JPGI replaced as many connectors as I could. I was unable find 15 pin or larger connectors. DigiKey had them listed on their web site however they were marked "obsolete". I will keep looking and replace them later if I can find themIMG_5368 (resized).JPGIMG_5368 (resized).JPG
Also tore the coin door down to get it powder coated. It was in rough shape. The powder coating did a fair job at covering up the rustCoin_door_B4 (resized).jpgCoin_door_B4 (resized).jpgI will continue looking for a replacement door. Until then this one will have to do. It will be an easy swap down the road.Coin_door_between (resized).JPGCoin_door_between (resized).JPGCoin_Door_After (resized).jpgCoin_Door_After (resized).jpg
This Wednesday I will get my 54 pieces back from the metal plater.

#3204 4 years ago
Quoted from Pin-Pilot:

It's coming along! You know that there should be 2 of the 5" bands around the back diverter unit right.

That's what the kit said but there's only one groove, where's the second band supposed to go?!

Your cabinet, oh man... That makes me sad. The rest though.. Wow! Beautiful!

I need to pull my coin door on this and my world cup soccer for powder at some point. Just seems like a lot of hassle

#3205 4 years ago
Quoted from Pin-Pilot:

was unable find 15 pin or larger connectors. DigiKey had them listed on their web site however they were marked "obsolete". I will keep looking and replace them later if I can find them

Try Great Plains Electronics, he has a lot of the older connectors.

#3206 4 years ago
Quoted from Pin-Pilot:

I was unable find 15 pin or larger connectors.

PM me with what you need as I might have it.

#3207 4 years ago
Quoted from KSUWildcatFan:

That's what the kit said but there's only one groove, where's the second band supposed to go?!
Your cabinet, oh man... That makes me sad. The rest though.. Wow! Beautiful!
I need to pull my coin door on this and my world cup soccer for powder at some point. Just seems like a lot of hassle

It is a bummer about my cabinet. The wood is just too damaged to bring back to high quality restore I am aiming for. It was an extra expense I was not counting on but it would be wrong to not replace it.

The coin door has a lot of pieces to it but mine really needed a full teardown and restore. I will post a pic when I get it back to gather.

You have it routed correctly around the back of the metal diverter bracket. PF_Diverter_pic (resized).JPGPF_Diverter_pic (resized).JPGHere is a pic of the rubber placement, one goes in the groove and the other goes above the groove (EDIT: actually I am not sure about the second rubber. It may go below the groove. I just matched a ball against the rubber and it appears that it might match up better if it is below the groove. I see an issue with this though, the band could, over time, slide down the post and rest on the playfield. So I still think it should go above the grooved rubber. Grumpy? want to chime in here?) IMG_5372 (resized).jpgIMG_5372 (resized).jpgHere is a pic of my old PF diagram.

#3208 4 years ago
Quoted from Pin-Pilot:

It is a bummer about my cabinet. The wood is just too damaged to bring back to high quality restore I am aiming for. It was an extra expense I was not counting on but it would be wrong to not replace it.

For what you're after, I 100% agree. Sucks.

Quoted from Pin-Pilot:

The coin door has a lot of pieces to it but mine really needed a full teardown and restore. I will post a pic when I get it back to gather.

Mine seems okay but I never use come out anything like that so I honestly haven't even tested that. I just know at some point I need to powdercoat it.

Quoted from Pin-Pilot:

You have it routed correctly around the back of the metal bracket. [quoted image]Here is a pic of the rubber placement, one goes in the groove and the other goes above the groove. [quoted image]Here is a pic of my old PF diagram.

Interesting. I'll add it when I get home!

I'm a little pissed at myself, I placed my big orders with Marco and pinball-mods and managed to forget three important things: a crimping tool, a I pin removal tool, and a pop spoon. I robbed the lower spoon off High Speed to fix my F14. Forgot a couple of sockets to shoot some light into these clear star rollovers, too. Stupid stupid stupid!

Oh well, follow-up order it is.

#3209 4 years ago
Quoted from Bellagio:

Try Great Plains Electronics, he has a lot of the older connectors.

I checked Great Plains electronics and got the dreaded "Obsolete" on the connectors I was looking for. Maybe Grumpy will have some available he is willing to part with. FingersCrossed...

#3210 4 years ago
Quoted from KSUWildcatFan:

Interesting. I'll add it when I get home!
I'm a little pissed at myself, I placed my big orders with Marco and pinball-mods and managed to forget three important things: a crimping tool, a I pin removal tool, and a pop spoon. I robbed the lower spoon off High Speed to fix my F14. Forgot a couple of sockets to shoot some light into these clear star rollovers, too. Stupid stupid stupid!
Oh well, follow-up order it is.

Don't beat yourself up. We have ALL forgot to include something in an order then had to pay another shipping fee to get the missing parts. FYI: I have placed several orders because I have forgotten to include or did not realize I needed. So you are not by yourself here.

#3211 4 years ago

Haha, I know! But I toiled over these orders for weeks before committing, thinking for sure I had it all. Whifffff! I hope the mail service doesn't shut down!

#3212 4 years ago
Quoted from KSUWildcatFan:

Haha, I know! But I toiled over these orders for weeks before committing, thinking for sure I had it all. Whifffff! I hope the mail service doesn't shut down!

In the big scheme of things. paying $8-10 in shipping is not a huge setback. 2 cups of Starbucks coffee to put it into perspective!

#3213 4 years ago

Haha, indeed. So long as there's no disruption in mail service! Guess I should place that order, like, right meow.

#3214 4 years ago
Quoted from Pin-Pilot:

I checked Great Plains electronics and got the dreaded "Obsolete" on the connectors I was looking for. Maybe Grumpy will have some available he is willing to part with. FingersCrossed...

Yeah it seems like a lot of those larger molex connectors were only used on older games and are no longer produced. Unfortunately a lot of them are in fairly bad burnt/yellowed condition and are tough to replace.

#3215 4 years ago
Quoted from Bellagio:

Yeah it seems like a lot of those larger molex connectors were only used on older games and are no longer produced. Unfortunately a lot of them are in fairly bad burnt/yellowed condition and are tough to replace.

Mine are not burned just yellowed and I am sure brittle. Replacing what I can. Want to keep it as stock as possible. Do not want to change to a different connector making it non-interchangeable with other High Speed games.

I will just leave them if I cannot find replacements.

#3216 4 years ago
Quoted from Pin-Pilot:

Mine are not burned just yellowed and I am sure brittle. Replacing what I can. Want to keep it as stock as possible. Do not want to change to a different connector making it non-interchangeable with other High Speed games.
I will just leave them if I cannot find replacements.

I believe marco has one of the 15 pin connectors, but not the mating one to match it...

#3217 4 years ago

Not super thrilled with my execution on these but it is what it is. I should have slowed the Dremel down when I got close

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#3218 4 years ago
Quoted from KSUWildcatFan:

Not super thrilled with my execution on these but it is what it is. I should have slowed the Dremel down when I got close

That is the part that freaks me out the most about attempting this.

#3219 4 years ago
Quoted from zosofan:

That is the part that freaks me out the most about attempting this.

Go slow, be very careful. The absolute worst part because it can be so damaging.

#3220 4 years ago
Quoted from monkfe:

I believe marco has one of the 15 pin connectors, but not the mating one to match it...

I will go check it out. Thanks.

EDIT: I searched, did not find it. Could you post a link if you are able to find it. I am looking for the square 5X3 jack and plug.

#3221 4 years ago

I have a 15 pin female housing but no male. What type of others did you need?

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#3222 4 years ago

Can anyone confirm the wiring for the upper pop? As per usual, my pictures are less than useless.

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#3223 4 years ago
Quoted from KSUWildcatFan:

Not super thrilled with my execution on these but it is what it is. I should have slowed the Dremel down when I got close [quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Did not realize the roll-overs had to be installed like that. Honestly I am not a fan of the hard tops, although they seem to be VERY popular. I am sure it is less labor intense than a play field swap.

I chose the playfield swap route because I wanted to replace the playfield since all the screws were rusty on the bottom and it was evident that the game had been in a damp environment for a period of time. The cabinet also showed that making it necessary to replace that as well.

Take your time and I am sure it will all be fine in the end.

#3224 4 years ago
Quoted from GRUMPY:

I have a 15 pin female housing but no male. What type of others did you need?[quoted image][quoted image]

Yes, that is one of the ones I am looking for.

The other 2 come off the power transformer. See pics.

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#3225 4 years ago
Quoted from Pin-Pilot:

I will go check it out. Thanks.
EDIT: I searched, did not find it. Could you post a link if you are able to find it. I am looking for the square 5X3 jack and plug.

The one I was referring to was the .062 you want the .093...not sure on that size.

#3226 4 years ago
Quoted from Pin-Pilot:

Did not realize the roll-overs had to be installed like that. Honestly I am not a fan of the hard tops, although they seem to be VERY popular. I am sure it is less labor intense than a play field swap.
I chose the playfield swap route because I wanted to replace the playfield since all the screws were rusty on the bottom and it was evident that the game had been in a damp environment for a period of time. The cabinet also showed that making it necessary to replace that as well.
Take your time and I am sure it will all be fine in the end.

I love the way the hardtop plays and it's definitely less work than a full swap, but it's not without it's challenges, for sure.

#3227 4 years ago

You need a male 12 pin. And a 4 pin. My 4 pins are different then yours.

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#3228 4 years ago

I opened up my HS and checked the 12 pin for fit. Like a glove. But like I said my 4 pin connectors are different, no go.

#3229 4 years ago
Quoted from GRUMPY:

You need a male 12 pin. And a 4 pin. My 4 pins are different then yours.[quoted image][quoted image]

Yes, I can use the 12 pin male. I have the 4 pin ones but not the one from the transformer.

you have a PayPal I can send you $ for the 12 pin male? That is if you are willing to part ways with it.

#3230 4 years ago
Quoted from KSUWildcatFan:

Can anyone confirm the wiring for the upper pop? As per usual, my pictures are less than useless.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

looks like you are looking for GI wiring connections for the Pop bumper correct? I did a little re-configuring when I did the pop bumpers but here are some pics. Let me know if they help.

I may have pics of the original, before I disassembled the old playfield. Let me know if you need more pics.

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#3231 4 years ago

Clutch as always. This should be very helpful. Thanks!

#3232 4 years ago
Quoted from monkfe:

The one I was referring to was the .062 you want the .093...not sure on that size.

Actually I AM looking for .62 size in the 15 and 24 pin version. Grumpy was gracious enough to offer the female side of the 15 pin .62 so I am good there just need the Male side now.

I think I will be SOL on the 24 pin connector.

#3233 4 years ago
Quoted from Pin-Pilot:

Actually I AM looking for .62 size in the 15 and 24 pin version. Grumpy was gracious enough to offer the female side of the 15 pin .62 so I am good there just need the Male side now.
I think I will be SOL on the 24 pin connector.

This is the one marco has ...

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#3234 4 years ago
Quoted from monkfe:

This is the one marco has ...[quoted image]

Hey Monk,

Thanks for the link. That is the connector I am searching for. I must have overlooked it when searching before. It does look like the Male side is not available, still looking through the pages of connectors.

This forum is such a wealth of information. I was hoping it would lead to finding the parts I was looking for.

Your link led me to find the 24 pin connector at Marco as well both Male and female! I find it so difficult to find parts unless you have a part number. They are not cheap but it is exactly what I am looking for. Screen Shot 2020-03-17 at 7.36.51 PM (resized).pngScreen Shot 2020-03-17 at 7.36.51 PM (resized).png

Thanks!

#3235 4 years ago
Quoted from Pin-Pilot:

Actually I AM looking for .62 size in the 15 and 24

I thought you were looking for the .093 size. Most of my connectors are .093 size. I rechecked my stash and didn't have the 15 pin in the small size. Sorry.

#3236 4 years ago
Quoted from GRUMPY:

I thought you were looking for the .093 size. Most of my connectors are .093 size. I rechecked my stash and didn't have the 15 pin in the small size. Sorry.

OK, thanks. I am seriously going cross-eyed from searching connectors online now.

My posts were a bit confusing and not very precise. My bad.

The 15 pin connector (male and female) .63 I need connects the playfield switch harness to back box MPU harness. Marco seems to have the female but not the male as monkfe posted above. The 15 pin you posted looks like .63. If that is the case I will order a couple from Marco and you can hold on to yours.

I was shocked to find the 24 pin connector available on Marcos site. Gonna order a few of those as well.

searching for parts for pinball machines is like a treasure hunt across the world continents!

Thanks again GRUMPY

#3237 4 years ago

It is amazing what resources are out there for pinball restoration help. Peter at www.inkochnito.nl has created many great PDF files for printing labels for almost every pinball need out there. I downloaded his file for the Diagnostic switch set on the inside of the coin door and had my local Kinkos print it up on glossy paper. Came out great I think. He does this for free. I made a nice donation for his cause.

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#3238 4 years ago

Hey @ksuwildcatfan, here is another "before" image of the area I think you are working on with the GI wiring.
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#3239 4 years ago
Quoted from Pin-Pilot:

Hey ksuwildcatfan, here is another "before" image of the area I think you are working on with the GI wiring.
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Thanks! I downloaded all of those for reference.

I'm going to order straight leads before I start on these. These flexible leads are a joke. No sense in starting down a path that I know for a fact is just going to piss me off!

Glad you're finding most of your connectors. I 100% agree finding a lot of this stuff without part numbers is a real chore a lot of the time, unfortunately.

#3240 4 years ago
Quoted from KSUWildcatFan:

Thanks! I downloaded all of those for reference.
I'm going to order straight leads before I start on these. These flexible leads are a joke. No sense in starting down a path that I know for a fact is just going to piss me off!
Glad you're finding most of your connectors. I 100% agree finding a lot of this stuff without part numbers is a real chore a lot of the time, unfortunately.

I ordered the wired lead pop bumper light sockets as well. When I test fit the socket I realized that they will not work. The worst part is the socket does not stay in place and the bulb would lean up against the pop bumper body.

#3241 4 years ago

They're trash. Never again.

I was really hoping to be able to solder the new leads in without removing the bottom pop assembly.. But clearly that's not realistic. So I'll start down that path, one by one, I guess.

#3242 4 years ago
Quoted from Pin-Pilot:

Hey Monk,
Thanks for the link. That is the connector I am searching for. I must have overlooked it when searching before. It does look like the Male side is not available, still looking through the pages of connectors.
This forum is such a wealth of information. I was hoping it would lead to finding the parts I was looking for.
Your link led me to find the 24 pin connector at Marco as well both Male and female! I find it so difficult to find parts unless you have a part number. They are not cheap but it is exactly what I am looking for. [quoted image]
Thanks!

Try Actionpinball.com they are another great vendor

#3243 4 years ago
Quoted from KSUWildcatFan:

They're trash. Never again.
I was really hoping to be able to solder the new leads in without removing the bottom pop assembly.. But clearly that's not realistic. So I'll start down that path, one by one, I guess.

Use these sockets.

https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/077-5020-00

#3244 4 years ago
Quoted from eyeamred2u:

Try Actionpinball.com they are another great vendor

Have ordered many parts from Action. Looks like they have the last connector I am searching for... the 15 pin male ( I refer to it as male, but site says female) connector .63 Thanks eyeamred2u It is the match to the connector in post #3233 above even though they are both labeled as "Female". Maybe that is why I did not find it in earlier searches.
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If there was an APP that would search all the pinball retail sites for parts, that would make life so much easier. It seems the parts are spread out amongst all the pinball retail sites. 1 part from this site, another part from another site. LOL The shipping costs add up after a while.

#3245 4 years ago

Good link. Did not realize those existed! That looks like a real good option.

#3246 4 years ago

Dammit grumpy, stop being so amazing. Those are way better than what I had in my cart, and about half as expensive as well. Thanks!

#3247 4 years ago
Quoted from KSUWildcatFan:

Dammit grumpy, stop being so amazing. Those are way better than what I had in my cart, and about half as expensive as well. Thanks!

They are great, they screw down with the pop housing and are lower profile so bulbs won't melt the pop cap. Flexible wires don't break off like the rigid ones do. A win all around.

#3248 4 years ago
Quoted from GRUMPY:

They are great, they screw down with the pop housing and are lower profile so bulbs won't melt the pop cap. Flexible wires don't break off like the rigid ones do. A win all around.

Wish they'd have had bulk pricing, I'd have bought a bunch! These will do for now though. Order finally placed

#3249 4 years ago

parts are back from the plating company.

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I'd say a big improvement! Built up the coin door.

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Lots of rust

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#3250 4 years ago

Looking good!

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