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High Speed Club ~ Dispatch, this is 504. We have a Club now, over.

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#5551 1 year ago

That backglass has such vivid reds

#5552 1 year ago

I love what you did with the speakers!

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#5553 1 year ago
Quoted from jetmechinnc:

It’s alive!!!!! After 30 years with the batteries installed in a tractor trailer with mice and snakes, it’s alive!!!!!!! Thanks mainly to pinball pimp stencils, dumbass pinball boards and other pinside member with their cool add-ons like clear ramps and decals. All I need to do now is replace the beacon motor. It works, but seems to be missing teeth or something. Spin up perfectly, then next time, could hear the gears grinding with no beacon movement.
All in all, fun game and glad it did not end up in the landfill!
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Excellent work on the re-stencil! I think Marco has the beacon motor. Make sure whatever you use is a 24V motor.

#5554 1 year ago
Quoted from HighSpeed1:

The background sound board is the top left as mentioned. U4 is the sound ROM chip, and should have a sticker on the top of it. Once in a while my background sound goes out, I remove one of J1, 2, or 3 and re seat, music comes back. I'm due for a connector replacement.
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Mine does this too, I have reflowed the connectors on the sound board but still does it. Mostly at turn on I don’t get the bong and I know the music will not come on, if I tap the backglass it will bong then work or if I just leave it for 5 mins or so it will work.

I have wiggled connectors etc but still can’t work it out so have just left it, one day it will be fixed!

#5555 1 year ago

Motor was replaced via Marco. All is well. Did have an odd issue with the background board. It would never turn off at end of game. Seems a chip was bad. Put in new board and presto, fully functional perfect high speed!

Quoted from Lovef2k:

Excellent work on the re-stencil!

Thank you. Pinball pimp stencils are great. Plus I love to customize the paint color when I can.

#5556 1 year ago

Proud dad here. My six year old daughter completed the stoplights and “got away” on her own. The huge smile on her face made getting the pin worthwhile all on its own.

#5557 1 year ago
Quoted from vidguy:

Proud dad here. My six year old daughter completed the stoplights and “got away” on her own. The huge smile on her face made getting the pin worthwhile all on its own.

Awesome. My daughter was 10 when I got the first pin. She drew a picture of it and I still have it 14 years later. She also posted a YouTube of herself playing it.

#5558 1 year ago

Hi
Anyone convert to led displays and have 2 working lower numeric displays they would like to sell. Please pm me

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#5559 1 year ago

I'm rebuilding a High Speed that came to me in parts. Can someone tell me where these parts go? (not the usb stick which is for scale ) Thanks, David.

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#5560 1 year ago
Quoted from SYS6:

Can someone tell me where these parts go?

They are covers for the two relays under the playfield by the hide out kickouts. That is what I think they are anyway.

You can just see them in my photo above the flash bulbs.

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#5561 1 year ago
Quoted from jetmechinnc:

They are covers for the two relays under the playfield by the hide out kickouts. That is what I think they are anyway.
You can just see them in my photo above the flash bulbs.
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Thank you jetmechinnc .

#5562 1 year ago

Hi fan here kind of, I posted this same question in the secret service club but I'm hoping to get a more rounded feedback: Might be getting one fingers crossed. It's beat up but plays. Going to try and test out all the features before purchase. OK so my real question: there is also a high speed available near me and I see it's ranking as wayyyyyy higher and everybody says how great it is even though the games are similar. In my opinion secret service seems like it has way more going on and is therefore more fun. What say you? Why is one better over the other? Especially answer if you own both or have played both. Just curious thanks guys.

#5563 1 year ago

Rankings are just opinions.
Yes, Secret Service has more features than high speed.
It's a couple years newer, so more was expected at the time.
I prefer the simplicity of High Speed for the game that it is.
There is some truth to the claim that Data East games of that era feel a bit "clunky", while Williams feel more smooth and solid.

Secret Service is a pretty good game, and if you prefer it, that's fine.
Maybe be sure that no hard to find parts are missing or damaged on the one you are looking at. Williams parts are a bit easier to find than Data East.

#5564 1 year ago
Quoted from RCA1:

Rankings are just opinions.
Yes, Secret Service has more features than high speed.
It's a couple years newer, so more was expected at the time.
I prefer the simplicity of High Speed for the game that it is.
There is some truth to the claim that Data East games of that era feel a bit "clunky", while Williams feel more smooth and solid.
Secret Service is a pretty good game, and if you prefer it, that's fine.
Maybe be sure that no hard to find parts are missing or damaged on the one you are looking at. Williams parts are a bit easier to find than Data East.

thank you, i do feel like some pinball machines feel a bit more clunky or almost kind of plasticky or kiddish when you hit the ball. I can definitely feel an extreme version of it when I play an old school game versus a new stern or something for sure. Do you feel that high speed has a better feel on the flippers than secret service, because that is a huge factor for me for sure!

#5565 1 year ago
Quoted from Sirgubster9:

. Do you feel that high speed has a better feel on the flippers than secret service, because that is a huge factor for me for sure!

Maybe "different". Not better or worse. Those early Data East games definitely have killer strong flippers when working correctly. Seems like they are about to snap off targets and smash plastics.

#5566 1 year ago
Quoted from RCA1:

Maybe "different". Not better or worse. Those early Data East games definitely have killer strong flippers when working correctly. Seems like they are about to snap off targets and smash plastics.

I was going to say this very thing. After I play one of my System 11 machines like High Speed or Earthshaker, and then play my Data East Simpsons or Time Machine, it's odd. They feel very different as RCA1 said, but not worse. They are plenty strong, but definitely feel different.

If the Secret Service is working well, I'd get it. It's a fun game.

Chris

#5567 1 year ago
Quoted from Sirgubster9:

Hi fan here kind of, I posted this same question in the secret service club but I'm hoping to get a more rounded feedback: Might be getting one fingers crossed. It's beat up but plays. Going to try and test out all the features before purchase. OK so my real question: there is also a high speed available near me and I see it's ranking as wayyyyyy higher and everybody says how great it is even though the games are similar. In my opinion secret service seems like it has way more going on and is therefore more fun. What say you? Why is one better over the other? Especially answer if you own both or have played both. Just curious thanks guys.

High Speed is my "just one more" game. None of my other games have that magic to that degree. Every time I stream it, it's still just as much fun when I make it up the ramp to get into multiball as it ever was.

-Pinball Mayhem Jeremy

#5568 1 year ago

Sometimes I only get 2 balls on multiball on my high speed. is that normal?

#5569 1 year ago
Quoted from blainedoe:

Sometimes I only get 2 balls on multiball on my high speed. is that normal?

Yes. When multi ball starts, you have to shoot Ball 2 into the ramp and lock it in order for Ball 3 to come out. If you don’t make it into the ramp from the plunge, you’ll only get two balls.

#5570 1 year ago
Quoted from blainedoe:

Sometimes I only get 2 balls on multiball on my high speed. is that normal?

vidguy is correct. One other thing that can cause a 2 ball mulitball is a bad or incorrectly adjusted trough switch.

#5571 12 months ago

Thanks for the input. Also do you know what these are for (circled in red)?

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#5572 12 months ago

Thanks for the input. Also do you know what these are for (circled in red)?

It's just one of those things that "is". Might have been placed to keep the ball from being trapped under the wire form ramp.

#5573 11 months ago
Quoted from blainedoe:

Thanks for the input. Also do you know what these are for (circled in red)?
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That is directly under the wire track. A ball could potentially get stuck between the plastic and wire rail.

#5574 11 months ago

What's your opinion's on the new freeway signs, stoplight and CHP cruiser that has red and blue alternating flashing lights on top when the siren goes off? Just having fun with this High Speed. OVER lol.

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#5575 11 months ago
Quoted from blainedoe:

What's your opinion's on the new freeway signs, stoplight and CHP cruiser that has red and blue alternating flashing lights on top when the siren goes off?

I have that stoplight and Freeplay40's clear ramp. I like both.
The freeway signs are pretty good, but not my thing.
Not a fan of the car, but your opinion matters more than mine for your game.

Do what you want with your game.
Please don't get carried away with mods that just clutter the game up, and please don't LED color spam the GI lighting.

#5576 11 months ago
Quoted from RCA1:

I have that stoplight and Freeplay40's clear ramp. I like both.
The freeway signs are pretty good, but not my thing.
Not a fan of the car, but your opinion matters more than mine for your game.
Do what you want with your game.
Please don't get carried away with mods that just clutter the game up, and please don't LED color spam the GI lighting.

Yeh I'm not to sure about the car either but I do like the signs. It does resemble the cluster fk freeway systems in LA. lol

#5577 11 months ago

I have a working set of 4 displays, lower right is out if someone is looking

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#5578 11 months ago
Quoted from GRUMPY:

Anyway you know what you need to do, REBUILD the power supply!

So feeling confident since I just rebuilt the PSB on my Taxi - I finally decided to rebuild the power supply on my HS. Reflowed the pins, replaced the capacitors it all looked pretty good. Put the PSB back in the machine. Turned on the machine. The machine dinged a couple times, a 0 came up on the red led on the main board and ADJUST FAILURE came up on the screens. I feel like this has happened before but do not have the energy to track down my old posts. Does anyone have an idea as to what I screwed up this time?

#5579 11 months ago

Dead batteries? Change batteries and do a reset.

#5580 11 months ago

I did a reset and the game worked. Then I shut it off and when I turned it on the ADJUST FAILURE came back on. I took out the batteries and they tested fine but they were a little warm when I removed them....Do not remember them being warm before.

#5581 11 months ago
Quoted from The_Great_Man:

I took out the batteries and they tested fine but they were a little warm when I removed them.

The batteries should never be warm. It sounds like they are being charged, and non rechargeable batteries don't like that. It will cause them to leak too.

D-2 is a small blocking diode, it allows battery voltage to pass thru to the ram chip U-25 when the power is off. It blocks the 5 volts from the power supply from charging the batteries when the power is on.

Use your DMM on diode test and see if it is shorted.

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#5582 11 months ago

Not sure I did this right but with the game off I put the black connector to the banded side of the diode and the red to the other side - dmm was in Ohm 2K test mode - I got a reading of 620. When I reversed the connectors I got the same reading. That does not seem right to me.

#5583 11 months ago
Quoted from The_Great_Man:

That does not seem right to me.

That doesn't seem right to me either. I would remove it and replace it.

#5584 11 months ago

Can I use a 1N4004 to replace the 1N4001 that is there? It looks like I can.

#5585 11 months ago
Quoted from The_Great_Man:

Can I use a 1N4004 to replace the 1N4001 that is there? It looks like I can.

Yes.

#5586 11 months ago

Not sure that is going to fix the problem. When I took the diode out it tested fine. I did replace it but is there something else I could have done to the PSB that would make the batteries not work when the game is off.

#5587 11 months ago

The one thing I did that I was not sure of was this: In the lower right corner of the PSB there are 4 yellow wires connected directly to the PSB. One of the wires - the one in the lower left corner - was not connected to the board. I assumed that I somehow disconnected this wire so I soldered it back into place. I am not sure that this wire was connected originally but I assume that it was.

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#5588 11 months ago

I am not good at reflowing the solder on pins. I do not have access to a schematic…Is it possible I screwed up reflowing a pin that would cause the batteries to not save information when the game is off.

#5589 11 months ago

Remove the batteries and post a good pic of the battery holder area.

#5590 11 months ago

Let me go back a little - I replaced D2 on the PSB but now I realize you wanted me to check D2 on the CPU Board. Let me do that. Here is a picture of the battery holder. The batteries were working fine until I took out the PSB and messed around with it. Had to be something I did.

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#5591 11 months ago

When I check D2 on the CPU using the dmm set to diodes - I get a reading of 630 in one direction and no reading in the other direction.

#5592 11 months ago

By my terrible analysis - I must have screwed up reflowing the pins of 3J6 on the PSB since some grey wires seem to go direct from the PSB to the CPU 1J17. Here is a picture of the solder on those pins. Here is a picture of those pins - Wow I did not realize I was THAT bad.

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#5593 11 months ago
Quoted from The_Great_Man:

When I check D2 on the CPU using the dmm set to diodes - I get a reading of 630 in one direction and no reading in the other direction.

If that is a .630 and a OL in the other, this is fine.

#5594 11 months ago
Quoted from The_Great_Man:

Wow I did not realize I was THAT bad.

Are you using solder flux?

The bottom contacts of the battery holder look great, can you get a pic showing the top contacts?

#5595 11 months ago

Ok...Reflowed my pins on the PSB. New problem: Turn the game on - Lights go on - Try to start a game - The engine revs up like it is going to start a game but then stops right when the ball is supposed to be put into the shooter and the ball does not get put into the shooter. When I do a diagnostic I get issues with the center trough and right trough. And you wonder why I hate touching these machines.

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#5596 11 months ago

The new problem was because I forgot to set machine in Free Play every time i turn it on.

#5597 11 months ago
Quoted from The_Great_Man:

Ok...Reflowed my pins on the PSB. New problem: Turn the game on - Lights go on - Try to start a game - The engine revs up like it is going to start a game but then stops right when the ball is supposed to be put into the shooter and the ball does not get put into the shooter. When I do a diagnostic I get issues with the center trough and right trough. And you wonder why I hate touching these machines.
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Working on these old machines, it's the same as working a Chevy truck from the rust belt that has 400,000 miles on it. Every time you open the hood, some of the body falls off. Now if you fully restore it, chances are it will last another 40 years with minor repairs and cleaning.

The battery holder is bad, this is why you get the adjust failure. C-30 is original and should also be replaced for avoiding future problems.

#5598 11 months ago

Thanks Grumpy. Just surprised that battery issue came up right when I played around with the PSB. Not a big fan of coincidence - Always think something caused something. I would love to just replace the nvram but the chip I have does not have a socket. Maybe I will just replace with another holder - I use lithium batteries and replace them pretty regularly so that should not be an issue. I will let you know if I have any more problems.

#5599 11 months ago

Before I went to sleep last night - I looked at the pictures that I sent showing the upper connections on my battery holder. I realized they were s mess so I took some sandpaper and cleaned them up. Put the batteries back in and when I woke up this morning the game had saved all the information and was ready to go. I will be replacing the battery holder as soon as I get a new one. Thanks Grumpy...Again!!

#5600 11 months ago
Quoted from The_Great_Man:

Just surprised that battery issue came up right when I played around with the PSB.

With the battery holder contacts corroded like that, they can lose connection with the battery with any movement like removing the power supply.

I don't use nvram on my machines. I just use lithium batteries too. Don't worry about them, replace them every 5 years.

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