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I was wrong. I'll own it, learn from it, and move on.


By jeffro01

3 months ago



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    #152 3 months ago

    $20k by Christmas....

    #153 3 months ago

    I love how he refers to it as just a standard Addams Family. A game like this is easily worth the money to someone in the market for it. My question is, how much would a HEP restored gold sell for....15k,18k,...25k?

    #154 3 months ago

    And 154 posts covers it. Thread over!

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    #156 3 months ago

    This horse is dead.

    #158 3 months ago

    @jeffro01 good on you to admit when you were wrong, not a lot of people have that ability. There’s a difference between stupidity and being uneducated. It seems like you’ve learned a bit more about pinball and have moved forward. I don’t get why There’re so many comments from the peanut gallery today, it’s not even a Monday.

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    #159 3 months ago

    I think that HEP do a superb job with fine craftsmanship and I don't question the pricing associated with this work, as I see it as worth the "value" rather than dollars to me as a pinball enthusiast.

    The one thing that I will say though is that I had an abrupt/unpleasant customer experience with them. I had asked about if they ship to Australia, or could replace the power supply converter (at my cost) and they were very abrupt that they will "only sell American pinball to American customers".

    When you factor in the price of a HEP, with shipping overseas and the Australian dollar conversion rate, I wasn't afraid to pay appropriately for a full HEP restore, but the company wasn't interested in overseas customers and shipping process.

    #160 3 months ago
    Quoted from RWH:

    so why not everyone else???????????

    Like I said before, We pinheads have become bored! And need a good poke, no offense to OP or seller, seems they have it figured out. But now we as responsible pinheads need to turn this into a fun thread.
    To Seller, would you take 9G for it with out the legs?

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    #161 3 months ago
    Quoted from Stuieb84:

    I think that HEP do a superb job with fine craftsmanship and I don't question the pricing associated with this work, as I see it as worth the "value" rather than dollars to me as a pinball enthusiast.
    The one thing that I will say though is that I had an abrupt/unpleasant customer experience with them. I had asked about if they ship to Australia, or could replace the power supply converter (at my cost) and they were very abrupt that they will "only sell American pinball to American customers".
    When you factor in the price of a HEP, with shipping overseas and the Australian dollar conversion rate, I wasn't afraid to pay appropriately for a full HEP restore, but the company wasn't interested in overseas customers and shipping process.

    I think you are confusing me with someone else.
    I am an individual not a they. Probably thinking of someone else.
    There is a company that does everything they can to try and confuse the market place.
    Tricky wording,utilizing my search names etc.
    I couldn’t care less though because I already have a full plate so anyone taken in by it is someone that doesn’t know exactly what they are looking for.

    #162 3 months ago
    Quoted from Stuieb84:

    "only sell American pinball to American customers".

    Nothing about that statement has a ring of truth to it. I can not imagine HEP responding in that manner. I could see them telling you they do not ship pins overseas etc., but not with the added prejudiced comment (only sell American pinball to American customers).

    #163 3 months ago
    Quoted from hank527:

    I'll trade you for it.
    Maybe a 2 do 1 or a 1 for 1 plus cash.
    I have a TNA butter cab.

    Feel free to PM me with some possible cash + trade offers.

    #164 3 months ago
    Quoted from High_End_Pins:

    I think you are confusing me with someone else.
    I am an individual not a they. Probably thinking of someone else.
    There is a company that does everything they can to try and confuse the market place.
    Tricky wording,utilizing my search names etc.
    I couldn’t care less though because I already have a full plate so anyone taken in by it is someone that doesn’t know exactly what they are looking for.

    I apologise if I have you mixed up with someone else. I don't want to inadvertently tarnish the reputation of the wrong person

    #165 3 months ago
    Quoted from RWH:

    Nothing about that statement has a ring of truth to it. I can not imagine HEP responding in that manner. I could see them telling you they do not ship pins overseas etc., but not with the added prejudiced comment (only sell American pinball to American customers).

    I erased my email address (for obvious reasons). Here is a screenshot of the email for transparency. If I have inadvertently attributed this email to the wrong person, then I apologise.
    At the end of the day, I'm just recanting a customer service experience - I want their business to do well because they sell a high end product

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    #166 3 months ago

    That’s not HEP.

    #167 3 months ago
    Quoted from Stuieb84:

    I erased my email address (for obvious reasons). Here is a screenshot of the email for transparency. If I have inadvertently attributed this email to the wrong person, then I apologise.
    At the end of the day, I'm just recanting a customer service experience - I want their business to do well because they sell a high end product

    I will apologize to you for jumping so quickly; however, I see now that what they meant was they only sell pins made in America to US customers because they do not convert. Sorry I doubted you and spoke out of line.

    #168 3 months ago
    Quoted from Stuieb84:

    I erased my email address (for obvious reasons). Here is a screenshot of the email for transparency. If I have inadvertently attributed this email to the wrong person, then I apologise.
    At the end of the day, I'm just recanting a customer service experience - I want their business to do well because they sell a high end product[quoted image]

    How did you confused "the pinball company" with "HEP"?! They don't even rhyme.

    #169 3 months ago

    I just missed it thinking they were their distributor for incoming orders. I better quit smoking and go play some pinball!

    #170 3 months ago
    Quoted from Stuieb84:

    I erased my email address (for obvious reasons). Here is a screenshot of the email for transparency. If I have inadvertently attributed this email to the wrong person, then I apologise.
    At the end of the day, I'm just recanting a customer service experience - I want their business to do well because they sell a high end product[quoted image]

    Dude... you slam a company because they are playing by the rules? And confuse them with another company that has nothing to do with the first?

    Distributors are not allowed to sell out of their territory. It's part of their agreement with the manufacturer.

    #171 3 months ago
    Quoted from Stuieb84:

    I apologise if I have you mixed up with someone else. I don't want to inadvertently tarnish the reputation of the wrong person

    Thanks. I was two for two on that.

    #172 3 months ago
    Quoted from yzfguy:

    How did you confused "the pinball company" with "HEP"?! They don't even rhyme.

    Well hey, it happens

    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/for-sale-terminator-2-judgment-day-williams-1991-2011/page/4#post-3092653

    #173 3 months ago
    Quoted from RWH:

    I will apologize to you for jumping so quickly; however, I see now that what they meant was they only sell pins made in America to US customers because they do not convert. Sorry I doubted you and spoke out of line.

    Quoted from flynnibus:

    Dude... you slam a company because they are playing by the rules? And confuse them with another company that has nothing to do with the first?
    Distributors are not allowed to sell out of their territory. It's part of their agreement with the manufacturer.

    I was talking about the restoration of a used pinball.
    I don't wish any harm on 'the pinball company'. I was just recasting a customer service experience. As I said, I want their company to do well, as they sell high end products

    #175 3 months ago

    My best so far. Leaving my mark, so to speak.
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    #176 3 months ago
    Quoted from High_End_Pins:

    This threads got nine lives and we are only on the third one.

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    #177 3 months ago

    Oh but it does make CENTS!

    #178 3 months ago

    I’ll throw some gas on the fire and empathize with the OP. The term “High End Pin” to someone that is unfamiliar with your professional product and company could easily assume that it was just a descriptive marketing term. For the community to flame someone because they didn’t immediately recognizing your work or company, it is depressing.

    If I told you I had professionally rebuilt muscle car for sale, would you automatically assume the companies name to be “Professionally Rebuilt”? I wouldn’t; I would just assume that it was a term used to inform the buyer that it’s a quality rebuild job.

    Nothing against HEP. It just takes a minute to associate his work to the term “high end”, and then it takes a minute more to learn that you cannot say that something in pinball is “high end” Unless it is your work.

    ***just sitting around getting high end by myself right now.

    #179 3 months ago

    This thread is worn out.

    #180 3 months ago
    Quoted from Luckydogg420:

    I’ll throw some gas on the fire and empathize with the OP. The term “High End Pin” to someone that is unfamiliar with your professional product and company could easily assume that it was just a descriptive marketing term. For the community to flame someone because they didn’t immediately recognizing your work or company, it is depressing.
    If I told you I had professionally rebuilt muscle car for sale, would you automatically assume the companies name to be “Professionally Rebuilt”? I wouldn’t; I would just assume that it was a term used to inform the buyer that it’s a quality rebuild job.
    Nothing against HEP. It just takes a minute to associate his work to the term “high end”, and then it takes a minute more to learn that you cannot say that something in pinball is “high end” Unless it is your work.
    ***just sitting around getting high end by myself right now.

    On top of that it all stems from a Craigslist ad that doesn't exactly link to a particular Pinside resume. Hell, there could be an entire sub-forum just for CL wackos, buying and selling. OP is mostly guilty of not knowing what a small world pinball is.

    #181 3 months ago

    i used to have faith in humanity.

    #182 3 months ago
    Quoted from rott:

    i used to have faith in humanity.

    Are you new to the internet?

    #183 3 months ago
    Quoted from RyanStl:

    Yes, but when does the HEP wear off and then it's just marketing?

    Never, the guys paying for HEP don't play their games, they just turn them on, look at them and talk about them. (more gas for the fire)

    On a serious note. I would guess that it being a HEP will always be carried with the machine (worth mentioning in a sale regardless of how long ago), but just like any other machine it will wear and age over time. So condition will be a factor. In other words, don't buy a HEP site unseen on the name alone.

    #184 3 months ago

    do HEP games come with some sort of HEP certificate? or maybe a picture book of the restore photos? (I no there is a branding on the pf) might help with conveying its value and why its valued more then a regular pin.

    #185 3 months ago
    Quoted from pinstyle:

    Never, the guys paying for HEP don't play their games, they just turn them on, look at them and talk about them

    Nah! I have one and play it everyday. Statements like this fall into the everybody, nobody, always never category.

    #186 3 months ago
    Quoted from russdx:

    do HEP games come with some sort of HEP certificate? or maybe a picture book of the restore photos? (I no there is a branding on the pf) might help with conveying its value and why its valued more then a regular pin.

    Don't need it. You take one look and you know it is a High End Restoration. He puts his label under the lock bar on lock unit.

    #187 3 months ago
    Quoted from pinstyle:

    Never, the guys paying for HEP don't play their games, they just turn them on, look at them and talk about them. (more gas for the fire)

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    #188 3 months ago
    Quoted from High_End_Pins:

    This threads got nine lives and we are only on the third one.

    4th now that it was resurrected! I would hope that the purchaser would receive a nice tote bag with purchase!

    #189 3 months ago
    Quoted from russdx:

    do HEP games come with some sort of HEP certificate? or maybe a picture book of the restore photos? (I no there is a branding on the pf) might help with conveying its value and why its valued more then a regular pin.

    The bottom of the playfield is branded. You can see it in pictures in this thread.

    LTG : )

    #190 3 months ago

    Any bets the OP has already drained the thread and moved on?

    #191 3 months ago
    Quoted from russdx:

    picture book of the restore photos?

    This is a good idea for a restorer, since a restorer can do a wide range of work on a machine. The initial buyer knows what he's getting since he's watching the pic-stream from afar and enjoying the process, but what happens when the pin changes hands once or twice? Or the pics change location on the server?

    50/100/200 hours are different levels of service and will be priced/valued differently. It would make sense for future buyers/sellers to have access to itemized work that was done whether it's a checklist, or a picture book. I would prefer an itemized checklist included with my machine, since it travels better than "online pics" which may or may not be there in 10 years.

    -mof

    #192 3 months ago
    Quoted from Leeb18509:

    On top of that it all stems from a Craigslist ad that doesn't exactly link to a particular Pinside resume. Hell, there could be an entire sub-forum just for CL wackos, buying and selling. OP is mostly guilty of not knowing what a small world pinball is.

    Pinball world will get smaller as time goes on

    #193 3 months ago
    Quoted from jfesler:

    Any bets the OP has already drained the thread and moved on?

    He may have. But the URL remains forever even with the title change.

    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/high-end-restorations-lol/page/4#post-5021997

    LTG : )

    #194 3 months ago

    Oh he is there, watching us devolve into mindless pinheads!

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    #195 3 months ago

    Took a deposit on the HEP Addams this morning.

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    #196 3 months ago
    Quoted from NorCalRealtor:

    Took a deposit on the HEP Addams this morning.

    I hope the buyer is aware that it's not a Gold, but a standard.

    #197 3 months ago

    Nothing standard about a HEP!! It's just not gold plated! If you that much into gold crazylevi, why don't you get yourself one of them fancy yellow brick road jobbers!

    #198 3 months ago

    Levi is joking.
    Anyways, I've always heard that TAF Gold is not all that, especially for home use. The code at least.

    #199 3 months ago
    Quoted from jkleinnd:Levi is joking.
    Anyways, I've always heard that TAF Gold is not all that, especially for home use. The code at least.
    #200 3 months ago
    Quoted from Sinistarrett:

    This horse is dead.

    At this point you could sell the horse as ground hamburger meat.

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