if populated is offered i would expect the old one shipped back in the same box so they can just recycle into another machine with a new play field.

A companies track record matters. They have sold how many pinball machines ahead of this issue with zero occurrences? Why should consumers accept this as the new normal?

That will not make everyone happy but would go a heck of a long way to solving this. Something officially should be sent out from Stern with so much data available on the failure rates. Even if they say nothing can be done but do something.

Considering we have a late last month LE showing up with the problem seems like they are using all the playfields even if they will ghost. Maybe after that the issue will resolve itself.

I agree, the time it's taking to solve this is really crazy. This is what they do and have been doing for years. It's not like some flaw in their new spike electronics, it's just raw materials, skills that have been around for years. I hope they can figure it out 100% and make a fix so we can move past this.

For sure but it sounds like your talking about something brand new in the alpha or beta testing phase. Just do what you did 6 months ago, wash rinse repeat.

Does that mean the late July builds don't have the fix yet? Do we have a cutoff date yet for when they think it's been fixed???? Doesn't appear so.

What if you buy a so called 'fixed' playfield for the wall and it doesn't 'sink' until it gets installed down the way?

Splitting the shipping would be generous considering the buyer could have picked a closer distributor.

But his other pins are fine. Note to Stern: put your beta machines in a hot Garage prior to mass production

You know all the brand new ones are good until 200+ plays. Why get peoples hope up?

A lot of people had that experience. You have to play it before your inserts start sinking. Good luck and report back.

Maybe but who knows. Think of every possible thing that could need a mass update and the play field is the worst. If one of the boards in the head had a defect, just shipping out the new boards would be cake. Now if they didn't want to eat the cost of all those bad play fields and said order the next set with the fix in, use these up? Bad move in my opinion, but maybe something like that happened?

This is getting old, how many times have we felt they've restarted production with the fixed playfield?

I'm seeing more new people ordering for the first time. Sales are strong even gambling on the play field.

Not fascinating i call it:

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And his response was?

You know building the premiums is taking all their time now. Not that there is anything wrong with that unless your affected. Just a bad situation overall.

A little electrical tape can fix that

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Yeah but the Euro Premiums were still in the batch where they didn't fix the problem yet (from what pinsiders speculated.) Those were shipped well ahead of the latest US premiums.

... after January 2016

At least the ones getting a replacement can beat the heck out of what they have now until Jan.

I got the pinball life ones and ended up using one of 2. One was fine from the factory but the other one needed it.

My PDI single glass weighed this much:

23 lbs / 10.43 kgs

A play field should be much more no?