Yes, can feel and see. I measured the plywood at 1/2" and inserts are 1/4" thick around the edges. They cut a lip into the playfields and glued the inserts to the lip. If there was something on the inserts makeing clear not stick it wouldnt be starting on the edges. Since the ghosting starts on the edges and works inward its got to be the way there glueing or installing the inserts in my opinion. The glue or wood edge has to be compressing some cause the inserts are tight and not loose. Similar to how the shooter lanes are compressing and the clear is separating from the wood. The clearcoat can only bend so far before it lifts off whatever its applied to wood or inserts.

You mean April-August. April built Pro here. Shooter lane had to be repaired, captive hole had to be touched up, drain hole had to be mylar protected due to clear lifting

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I talked to Stern today and im in the program for replacement with 4 ghosted inserts, shooter lane and drain hole clearcoat lifting. I didnt find anything out except im on the list. Im a GB Pro owner

my REPLACEMENT is ghosting at 40 plays!!!

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imagine what the BM'66 SLE guys will do if there playfields ghost!

your guess is as good as mine

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found a date stamp under the playfield saying October 13

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thats 100% what i think also

do you have the misspelled reinforcement?

that was first thing i did. they wanted pictures of game and location like i had it in a bad place. its in a carpeted bedroom in my house so they cant use that as an excuse. they know what they did and anybody with any sense can see through the bullshit they pulled!

can you tell me the what numbers to play for lotto today?

thing is they wont find the ghosting until the games played on. as far as i know nobodies gotten a NIB with ghosting on it right out of the box. my first game took over 200 plays before it started now this one it happened at 40

it wouldnt surprise me at all i just hadnt heard of one with ghosting out of the box. Now thats 2, another guy told me about one also.

game is sold. air ball protector will not help with ghosting though.

Thats ridiculous! Second December playfield with ghosting ive seen. Wait till a BM66 SLE guy post his $15k game is ghosting!

my GOT is ghosting in 4 inserts, shooter lane and drain were mylar'ed before ever playing and there looking bad already also. 200 plays and only 1 month old. Think its a August playfield.

Churchill isnt making any playfields for Stern and isnt in the future im told by Stern distributor. Stern and Churchill had a falling out. Huge gamble buying a Stern thats made end of 2015-present.

Shes the most honest distributor ive dealt with. Have you seen any Churchill stamped playfields, there very proud of there playfields why would they stop stamping on playfields? Im under the impression that a deal went sour and Churchill isnt ever going to make Stern playfields again from story i heard. i seen that Churchill had made some GB playfields but did they ever send any to Stern.. Could be a complete bullshit story and im just going by what ive been told and since no playfields have shown up stamped by Churchill im going to believe her until proof shows up saying otherwise.

i just looked over a original run MET pro and i dont see any Churchill stamps. The stamps do look different then FUNs on GB and GOT pros. As i said im only going by what i was told. If i was lied to then ill be finding another distributor.

could be she was wrong as i said im only going by what i was told. whos to say Stern didnt want to pay what Churchill wanted and stuck them with those playfields and thats what she was talking about. Do you think the crater dimpled BM66 are coming from Churchill? why would i be told by a distributor that there getting BM66s returned because of the quality of playfields, why would a Stern distributor talk about quality issues if there wasnt any?

Honestly all i really know that are facts are that ive had 2 shitty ass playfields from Stern now from 2016. A GB pro and a GOT pro.

its all good man im just telling people what ive been told. i thought Churchill did stamp there playfields with there names but only thing i seen on MET here that is older is a hand written C with a h inside of it that may stand for Churchill but i dont have any other older Sterns to look at here. Who makes Hobbit playfields?

Thanks Billy!!! i knew I had heard Churchill stamped there playfields, now that ive seen yours stamped CHURCHILL does anybody have a 2016-17 Churchill stamped playfield?

it only matters because people think that if Churchill makes the playfields that there wont be any issues and people are thinking they are getting Churchill playfields from Stern now but from what ive seen and heard Sterns still dealing with FUN who created this ghosting inserts, cracking clear in shooters and drain area situation within a few plays of brand new out of box games.

Did the MMr guys with faded inerts get un-populated replacement playfields?

I seen 2 different colored playfields around September i believe. I definitely think the deeper more vibrant one looks better. I dont think that any of the ghostbusters ive seen in person including the premium i seen with deeper colored playfield have been anything but FUN made playfields, all with ghosting.

Maybe you got lucky and got one of the Churchills from magazine article but i doubt that Churchill would not stamp there playfields to hide something.

Have you tried contacting Stern yourself? Ive delt with 3 distributors in 2016 for 4 NIBs and every one of the games had some issues and the distributors were all worthless when it came down to getting my games fixed. Contacting Stern directly has always been the best route to get anything done for me. One distributor couldnt even get me a new head speaker, going on 4 months now but if i really cared id just call Stern and they would send one right out im sure. Just today i got new head decals for my WWE LE from Stern and i only contacted them early last week. If you need any contact info let me know.

I went through Patrick with pf issues. Hes who handled all my Stern interaction when got GB pf replacement. Chas is who has taken care of my smaller issues. Sucks tto hear that somebody either Stern or distributor arent following through for you, thats way to long for game to be out of commission when its so new.

There not. Ive seen ghosting on LOTR (2003), SM(2007), XMEN(2012), and TSPP(2006 end run). All HUO well taken care of games that nobody ever thought twice about until GB ghosting issue. Some of them had 10+ ghosted inserts.

so you would rather have big chunks of playfield missing with the art gone down to bare wood over a ghosted insert? ill stick with the company that sends new playfields out to replace seriously ghosted playfields over a company that sends stickers out or a piece of metal to cover a $9k machine with chipped to bare wood in many places playfield.

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Thats what i was thinking. At $1 a play will be in the profit in no time.

Hey Ice does your ASle or BM66 have a beveled edge on the drain hole? I noticed my SW has a beveled edge and was just wondering when Stern started that?

dupe, sorry

LTG did the red circle couldnt erase it in DI thread. So should JJP replace ALL the DIs with chipped playfields or you cool with covering a 20 plays out of box $9000 DI chipped to bare wood with a cliffy and say its good? if Stern should be held accountable so should JJP.

how quickly or how many plays in did the ghosting start, also whats your build date? i think I've noticed that the first batch of games(July 6) that went out havent ghosted but after that its a crap shoot but i could be wrong maybe there all a gamble.

I though they only assembled MMr, no Stern parts?