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Here we go again PayPal friends n family


By tp

3 months ago



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  • Latest reply 3 months ago by Reality_Studio
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    “Here we go again PayPal friends n family”

    • Yes 21 votes
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    • No 68 votes
      54%
    • I'd do it 36 votes
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    #1 3 months ago

    So I'll cut straight to the chase. Verified pinsider wants to pick up a machine tomorrow memorial day. When he's here he wants to pay me via paypal friends and family. He's verified and has 3 great reviews(100%positive) on pinside sales. Been a member since 2014 but no forum posts. Feel free to chime in and if your that pinsider even better. My question. Anyway for me to get screwed?

    #2 3 months ago

    Maybe

    #4 3 months ago

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    #5 3 months ago

    No reason not to pay cash when picking up in person unless one of you is afraid of being jumped and robbed by the other. Yes, you could get screwed with paypal friends and family.

    If shipping, use escrow.com

    End of story.

    #6 3 months ago

    This is just my perspective and knowledge:You can't get screwed via Paypal Friends and Family. He has no way of doing a complaint as that transaction is not a commercial transaction.

    Why would he do this is questionable though...

    #7 3 months ago
    Quoted from Code:

    Why would he do this is questionable though...

    Holiday weekend cant turn bank funds into cash.

    #8 3 months ago

    One reason may be the bank is closed and he can’t withdraw enough cash at a tome through an ATM.

    Another reason could be he’s sitting on a bunch of paypal funds and wants to use it up.

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    #9 3 months ago

    Yes , don't do it. Not worth the risk.

    #10 3 months ago

    If it was a stolen credit card it could come back IMO.

    I actually like PayPal and use it often. I’m not crazy about it unless I am shipping to a confirmed address and get shipping documents confirming receipt. PayPal requires this for purchases over $250, at least when used in the traditional way.

    In most cases I prefer to go normal PayPal route as they provide protection for the buyer and seller. With FnF, PayPal isn’t making anything, if something goes wrong they will not be there in anyway to help you out.

    Since it’s a local pickup I would prefer cash, unless I really trusted the person.

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    #11 3 months ago

    He wants to pay with credit card via PayPal because he does not have the cash.

    #12 3 months ago
    Quoted from tp:

    Holiday weekend cant turn bank funds into cash.

    I would delay the pickup and he then has time to get the cash.

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    #13 3 months ago

    Just have them sign a receipt saying all sales are final

    #14 3 months ago
    Quoted from tp:

    So I'll cut straight to the chase. Verified pinsider wants to pick up a machine tomorrow memorial day. When he's here he wants to pay me via paypal friends and family. He's verified and has 3 great reviews(100%positive) on pinside sales. Been a member since 2014 but no forum posts. Feel free to chime in and if your that pinsider even better. My question. Anyway for me to get screwed?

    Yes, you are still subject to a credit card charge back. Take a deposit via PayPal to hold the game until Tuesday. Get the full amount in cash and refund the deposit via PayPal.

    #15 3 months ago

    Cash on glass, and if you have to , get tbe security check marker.

    #16 3 months ago

    Has positive reviews from who? Long standing and active members?

    #17 3 months ago
    Quoted from Boat:

    Has positive reviews from who? Long standing and active members?

    Breaking_Dad for 1

    #18 3 months ago

    When buyer arrives, have them login and show you their PayPal account info verifying the funds were supplied via bank account vs. credit card. Can’t charge back a bank account I think?

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    #19 3 months ago

    Why take the risk?

    Like others have said, small deposit via PayPal to hold it. Then cash for the rest when the banks are open.

    #20 3 months ago

    I’ve payed and received money via F&F with established members and never had a problem. It also costs extra to use a CC so incentive is there to use bank account as long as you both trust each other.

    #21 3 months ago

    If you don't know him well... Cash on the glass. If he is nervous about things (who could blame him), have him bring a deposit instead. Otherwise, thanks for your interest.

    I consider this cut and dry. I don't need a third party (PayPal) there to mess up the transaction. Have your security cameras rolling on that spot, and capture him paying, and taking the game. Done, and thanks, nice to meet you. I don't ever understand how it isn't this simple. If he is still nervous, have him bring a friend, but the machine leaves after you lay the cash on the glass.

    #22 3 months ago
    Quoted from tp:

    Holiday weekend cant turn bank funds into cash.

    I had the same experience. Did a little cash and the rest PayPal. As long as they have good feedback I say go for it. Of course there have been people screwed over by a scam, use your discretion and ultimately it’s up to you.

    #23 3 months ago

    In this situation i would just tell him cash unless ive done business with them before. Too risky. Pinball is hot right now and im sure youll find another buyer for your game if he walks.

    #24 3 months ago

    The fact that you are asking about paypal on pinside is making your nervous. I have bought machines from other pinsiders and locked in a deposit with paypal (example $200), but brought cash to pay the balance. Even when I do cash on large transactions besides pinball machines, I have my wife recount it and use a counterfeit marker and check all the bills if I don't know the person most of the time. I also like to talk on the phone and get a vibe for the person. Good luck, but I would ask for cash.

    #25 3 months ago

    LOL. My receipt suggestion seems to be very unpopular.

    #26 3 months ago

    No PayPal for large payments. Zelle is a better choice, but daily amounts are limited. Cash is king.

    #27 3 months ago

    Why can’t he do an e transfer?

    In person he should be bringing cash though. Bank closed not an excuse because he could have picked it up this past week.

    #28 3 months ago
    Quoted from tp:

    Holiday weekend cant turn bank funds into cash.

    Wait until the next day then. Cash is king. I would not take the risk. If buyer is genuine, he/she will come up with the cash.

    #29 3 months ago

    Too many risky variables.

    When in doubt....

    #30 3 months ago

    If he’s coming in person he can bring cash. Or send you a PayPal deposit and come next week.

    #31 3 months ago

    How far away from you is he?

    #32 3 months ago

    Having just had to do this, I am super grateful to a certain Pinsider who trusted me to do a bank transfer for this. Those can’t come back. But your bank will usually hold the funds until the next business day, and I believe my bank didn’t even send the request until that day too.

    PP friends and family may have a limit, Zelle SUCKS, and there’s a reason people want cash. He should have done his research, just as I should have.

    My recommendation is to ask him to post the details (not the amount), who he is, what happened, why he’s asking to do FF and have some of his buddies back him up publicly.

    #33 3 months ago

    I have sold two via pp gift. I just went with my gut with the buyers each time. If you or others you know dont know him cash only.

    #34 3 months ago

    I take PayPal payments when selling items. However, I don’t mess with PayPal for anything over $500 with F+F. It’s not impossible for it to come back but it is unlikely. Multiples of a thousand and it’s cash only to me.

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    #35 3 months ago

    Dammit! Stop abusing friends and family. If this continues we will all lose fiends and family...

    #36 3 months ago

    I don’t care either way. It can vanish and I would just go to taking credit cards only for items 500 and less.

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    #37 3 months ago

    Here we go again on our own
    Takin’ PayPal from dudes we never known!

    Nigerian grifters and deals that get ya boned!

    Cause you didn’t read Vid’s guide!!
    Can’t let these PayPal overtures slide!

    #38 3 months ago
    Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

    Having just had to do this, I am super grateful to a certain Pinsider who trusted me to do a bank transfer for this. Those can’t come back. But your bank will usually hold the funds until the next business day, and I believe my bank didn’t even send the request until that day too.
    PP friends and family may have a limit, Zelle SUCKS, and there’s a reason people want cash. He should have done his research, just as I should have.
    My recommendation is to ask him to post the details (not the amount), who he is, what happened, why he’s asking to do FF and have some of his buddies back him up publicly.

    What's wrong with Zelle?

    #39 3 months ago

    Sounds like the situation I’m in right now. I had lined up to sell a pin on Saturday and was going to use the funds to buy a pin tomorrow. Sale fell through and I’ve been scrambling to trying to scrape together as much cash as I possibly can, but the bank is closed and we have low ATM limits that can’t be changed with out talking to a teller. I was able to get about 85%of the cash but shamefully begged to PayPal the rest. I’m sympathetic, but understand your concern.

    I also offered to PayPal F&F the 15% funds before I even see the machine. That way it kind of holds us both accountable.

    #40 3 months ago

    Is he a friend or family?

    Can you stand to lose the thousands of Dollar$?

    #41 3 months ago

    You guys can't just email the money to each other in the US? (Interact e-transfer)

    The funds are instant and its bank-to-bank.

    #42 3 months ago

    I use paypal all the time. To buy and sell. Not sure why everyone hates it so much. Never had a problem.

    #43 3 months ago

    you could also use Venmo. its easy and immediate

    #44 3 months ago
    Quoted from jj44114:

    How far away from you is he?

    161 miles.
    I'm 99% convinced he's legit, unless someone's using his identity.

    #45 3 months ago

    Electronic direct bank transfer is as good as cash on the glass. If the buyer can pay by PayPal FnF, then he/she can definitely pay by direct bank transfer online. If the buyer can’t, then something ain’t adding up.

    #46 3 months ago
    Quoted from Code:

    This is just my perspective and knowledge:You can't get screwed via Paypal Friends and Family.

    Yes you can.

    He can have the local bank the funds were drawn on reverse the transaction.

    #47 3 months ago

    a) this is like stealing money from PP. You are not a friend and family and are using this service to circumvent a fee for a sale which this is. If you think it's ok to go to Chipotle and ask for a (free) water cup and then fill it with soft drink that's the same principle.

    b) cash is best (usual and customary) you are trying to go against usual and customary for the benefit of the buyer (not you).

    #48 3 months ago
    Quoted from tp:

    161 miles.
    I'm 99% convinced he's legit, unless someone's using his identity.

    Only 161 miles, that's nothing, he can come anytime after he has the cash. Get the deposit, and give him some time to come with the cash. Simple

    #49 3 months ago

    Put ‘em on the glass! The $100’s that is!

    #50 3 months ago
    Quoted from ausretrogamer:

    Electronic direct bank transfer is as good as cash on the glass. If the buyer can pay by PayPal FnF, then he/she can definitely pay by direct bank transfer online. If the buyer can’t, then something ain’t adding up.

    Not really. I have no clue what electronic direct bank transfer is.

    Quoted from tp:

    Holiday weekend cant turn bank funds into cash.

    Would be in the same boat. Just sold a pin to a buyer (I've dealt with before) that had to use PP F&F. Now I have a large some of PP and no cash.

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