I’ll just say that announcing this on the Friday after thanksgiving was probably a good move.

I’m sure this game will get to the 100 intended customers through whatever channels primus stuff gets to primus die Hards. Looks great and surely a labor of love for those involved.

And with the balance of Whoa Nellie parts finally exhausted (?), perhaps our long international nightmare is over.

I’ve heard that the designers made under $1 in royalties originally.

That being said, it’s probably been a success as a contract game. It’s all art and sound - they spend zero resources or money on rules (the same as nellie) and animations (there aren’t any!) so it’s the perfect contract machine aimed at non-pinheads. And of course these games are already paid for on Stern’s end.

I’ve got a birthday coming up so I’m looking into how much I’ll have to pay Stern to make 100 Crazy Levi pinball machines. Anybody interested in buying one?

Well somebody is clearly lying!!

We don’t know the actual costs of materials that make up these two playfields but it’s irrelevant.

Stern spent zero $ and time on the primus playfield layout and rules design. So it was significantly cheaper than “reskining” any other existing game.

Redoing Dragonfist or any other game would have been a complete waste of time, resources and money and would have run counter to Stern’s goals of staying in business and making money.

There’s the pinside I know and love!

You need to take this up with primus, as they surely decided the budget and all of the other paremeters of the project

The answer to “how can you do this the cheapest” most certainly was “this old school game right here.”

Primus doesn’t care about gaming experience or adding cost to their vanity project of 100 games, all of which they are buying and reselling.

If they did, they would have gone with a different game.

The customer here isn’t you, or operators. It’s primus. Just like the customer for Pabst was Pabst and Supreme for Supreme. I don’t see why it’s so hard for you guys to understand this, over and over again.

Well I’ve been talking with stern and here’s how it works.

I want 100 crazy Levi pinball machines. They present me with options and costs.

Since I think this game will sell on art and theme only, I wanted the absolute cheapest options. They brought me spider man home and whoa Nellie.

Nellie is the cheaper of the two since there’s no dmd.

I asked them about redesigning and retheming star gazer or quicksilver (or anything fancier) but the costs were way higher than what I’m willing to budget for the project. Especially since I’m responsible for buying all 100 of them up front.

So there you go. If you are willing to spend what it takes, Stern will build anything for you on contract. But I thought I should keep it simple and as cheap as possible since it’s a niche market.

Yeah, because re-engineering layouts with multiple flippers and drop target banks is cheaper than using a layout with two flippers and a bunch of stand ups that already exists.

You guys aren’t even trying to make any sense any more.

You really need to write an angry letter to Primus. I have gift-wrapped
The point and hand-delivered it to you and still continue to completely miss it.

It makes zero sense to accuse stern of compromising their “intigrety” for giving their customer, Primus inc., what they want. Stern sold 100 pinball machines to Primus, and their customer is presumably satisfied with it even if you aren’t.

This product is EXACTLY what Primus wanted, requested, ordered, and bought, so if you don’t like it and think they should have spent tens of thousands of dollars (probably understating that additional cost) more on it to make a “better game” you should take it up with them.

And that’s exactly what they are doing.

They just expanded their market to primus, who just bought 100 games from them. Primus was so happy with the game they bought every single one produced.

Has any other manufacturer as successfully expanded their customer base this year? Name one other manufacturers that just sold 100 pinball machines to a rock band this week.

Stern. In the last couple of years they have sold hundreds of machines to Supreme, Pabst, and primus. None of these markets were previously being tapped by pinball companies.

Spooky is also expanding the pinball market, having served the previously Uncatered to corporate pizza chain market.

All of this represents an unprecedented expansion of the pinball market. I’m impressed!

Lol x 2

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again:

If pinside ran Stern they’d be out of business in a month.

Congrats to Stern on yet another successful project, and instantly selling out your entire run of Primus games.

I’ll leave it to others to explain why it would have been smarter for Stern to risk the loss of tens of thousands of dollars than to execute this project exactly as they did.

Sizeable segment of pinball newbies think if a game doesn’t have ramps and multiball its “an EM.”

Even if it has a big color LCD screen and a digital soundtrack.

If you think you can make 100 of them in a couple of days like Stern is going to do, at a price point that works for your customer (u2, Nikki minaj/other music star) you should go right ahead and do that.

With Stern expanding the pinball market with these contract jobs, maybe they’ll go for it!

Because “they” have been out of business for 20 years and Stern doesn’t own the rights?

I mean, there’s like 20 other good reasons but that’s the first thing that popped into my noggin.

There you have it folks.

Please address all angry letters and suggestions that this game should be stargazer to Les Claypool and primus. Yeah

Thanks confirming what some of us have been saying and pulling back the veil a little bit.

It would be fun if just for one day we all had to read comments from 15 idiots criticizing how we do our day jobs, completely missing the point of whatever projects we are involved in at work, and generally pursuing conspiracy theories about how and why we do our job rather than accepting the most logical and simplest explanations.

I bet most of us would take it personally. People here go out of their way to completely misrepresent and misunderstand what these people do and why they do it.

It would be kind of funny. I can only imagine the Shit they’d say about us. It would be like when Seinfeld showed up at that heckler’s office job to yell at her.

This thing will be sold out at 11:03 just due to 100 pinsiders seeing if they can put one in their cart.

We'll have to check back at noon to see if it's really sold out.

32 left according to Primus.

If only they had reskinned Quicksilver they may have sold more!

Primus songs all kinda sound the same so what's the problem.

We really could have used this unique and previously unconsidered hot take a week ago when this was announced!

It's too late for those of us who have already bought a few. Damn you Panzer!!!

That was just me sticking 50 in my cart. We'll have to wait a little while to see the real numbers.

I also would have accepted "maroon 5" or "nickelback."

I have no idea who Megan Trainer is though.

My question to you is this: If you are such a huge Primus fan does it really matter which 13 songs are in the game? He who hesitates will not get his Primus game.

Take it up with Primus. This was entirely their choice.

Showing 10 units left at 11:45. I'm guessing this is close to accurate. Guess the intended audience for this game (Primus fans) are ok with the design choices the band made.

"Les Claypool only cares about the contiguous US and is laughing at all of us while taking a bath in our cash! The last concert poster cash grab was bad enough, this is beyond the pale!!! They continue to play us for suckers!

Uh...also if I buy one can somebody pick it up and have it shipped to me?"

Like many, you are either unable or unwilling to understand this project and how contract jobs work, despite it being explained to you many, many times.

Stern is "rolling" in Primus' cash, not "ours," at least as it pertains to this project.

I clicked on their site at exactly 12:25 and they were completely sold out!!!

If I buy one of these games, can you make it so all 13 songs are "Wynona's Big Brown Beaver?"

I'll buy you lunch!

First they rethemed a home game for Supreme, and sold it for $10,000.
But I did not protest, as I am old and do not understand Supreme.

Then, they rethemed Nellie into Pabst for $7,000,
but I did not protest, as I do not like disgusting beer.

Next, they spruced up Seawitch for an $8000 Beatles game.
But I did not protest, as I'm a Stones guy.

But then they made an $8,000 Primus game.
And there's was nobody left to protest. Cause we were all sick of complaining.

Place 70 of 'em in your cart and find out!

Looks like about 50 have sold. I wonder what Primus' break even point is.

No I don't believe so. They ended it by choice.

It happens! Ted Danson pulled the plug on Cheers.

Anyway better hurry up on those Primus buys. They are down to 8 left!

Well if Primus had raised the budget and retail price thousands of dollars per game so they could make a few Pinsiders happy with a rethemed Stars game I'm sure they'd have sold faster.

Then they would have contracted through Spooky and made a good game. Maybe even one as good as their previous contract jobs, Dominos or Jetsons!

No idea what the costs would have been, or if Spooky would have even been able to take on the project, or if they could have procured the services of Zombie yeti, which was apparently the most important thing for the customer, Primus. We also don't know if Spooky could have churned out 100 of them in the two days that it took Stern to run this entire lot of 100 games.

I guess we'll never know.

Fascinating!

All evidence right now points toward Spiderman Home and Whoa Nellie as the two available contract base games. But who knows, maybe anything in production is fair game if you are willing to spend enough money! Only one way to find out.

Indeed!

Maybe primus wanted to mitigate some risk and sold a handful at a discount bulk.

They did?!

That's amazing. I saw that show twice that year in Clemson and RFK Stadium and no opener.

Wait a second, I was told by numerous idiots that "why is Stern wasting time distracting itself making hundreds of thousands of dollars on one-offs like Primus when it's just delaying a bunch of other pins I don't want and will complain about endlessly anyway."

So you mean Stern runs a real pinball factory that can make at least TWO games at once?!

Bizarre.

Also I hate Munsters for some reason. Shoulda been made by Deep Root or JJP!!! Just look at those pics smdh.

beautiful! Enjoy.

Just putting a double rubber on those stock small flippers would probably work too.