Amazing work! Thanks for posting such detailed photos of your process.
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Eagerly watching this one! I just picked up a Black Hole and am curious to see what you come across/hear your takeaways on it.
Quoted from High_End_Pins:BH is about as far as it goes for now.
I finished working over the pop bumper “touch ups”
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Thanks for these updates! It's always really helpful for me to see somebody else's process on these sorts of things.
Quoted from yancy:HEP exposed! Shows fake before & after "process" photos of a beater and an NOS playfield. I knew there had to be a catch.
Is this a joke?
Ooooooo I see a Haunted House! That's my favorite game of all time, and I'd love to watch that one get done
Amazing. How many test games do you play on these before you ship them back? I'd be wanting to play each one of them for at least an hour.
Chris you must get asked this a million times but do you ever do just playfield work? People send you a totally stripped playfield for touchups and clearing?
Quoted from High_End_Pins:It is time to get back to the HG.
I guess I never noticed the irony that the HG playfield has wood painted onto it... over wood. Just kind of makes me chuckle. Coming along great.
Quoted from High_End_Pins:Large playfield shipment arrives. [quoted image]
Very eager to see you work on Haunted House. It's a game in my collection that I really consider sending you from time to time. I'm curious, you get a lot of cabinets delivered. When and how do you decide to get a new game cabinet CNC'd? I noticed HH is still the original cabinet in the lineup, so I'd love to know what you look for and when you think you're going to ditch the old one.
Thanks for keeping this thread going so nicely, neatly, and consistently!
Looks awesome! I particularly like the tough of the grey G.I. wires on this one for some reason. I have to say, I've regretted it every time I've ever put LEDs in an 80s game. Both Haunted House and Black Hole in my collection have LEDs throughout, and I absolutely miss the look and motion of incandescents. There is magic in those fractions of seconds that it takes for a lamp to heat up and cool down.
Quoted from meSz:Interesting to see you using the 555 sockets in the pops. Typically those sockets sit higher then the bayonet ones and, if I am correct, the caps don't have screws so interested in seeing if the caps stay on.
Well if LEDs are going in there, the LEDs will have a shorter bulb height than the original #44/#47 bulb height so it should even out properly.
Quoted from High_End_Pins:Homemade oatmeal,butterscotch and raisin cookies.
Oatmeal raisin is the best cookie and anybody who disagrees can fight me. Woodrail turned out amazingly. Congrats.
Quoted from Nhpolarbear:Why no love for Medusa? It’s got to be the target bank not to mention all the other items crammed onto the playfield including the zipper flippers. You are lucky there are not many left. How can it be worse than a Centaur?
I think al the things you just mentioned are enough reason to not love working on them...... Chris is a restorer, not a collector.
Quoted from High_End_Pins:A little cabinet touch up as well although depending on timing and budget I could see clearing that entirely since it is the last Stern without decals.
Wow, the low-res half toning on the cabinet artwork looks terrible! What were they thinking?
Quoted from djb_rh:The one thing that struck me looking at the pics, though, are the flat plastics. Like the jackpot sign, slingshot plastics, and just a couple others are all that's "left" that's not more of a 3D kind of art piece. Would be cool if someone did some kind of textured replacement for those...something with the same basic art, just with a little bit of added texture. The close up pics make it worse than I'm sure it is in real life, but things like those three rivet heads on the jackpot sign also jump out.
I was going to comment on the instruction and score cards, but I figured the customer likely insisted on using THOSE cards fitting flush or not. I know it's the easiest thing to mod, but I've always preferred stock instruction cards.
Quoted from High_End_Pins:I honestly get so sick and tired of these f*****g cheap toys people sell for some of these games.
They rarely hold up.
Hear Hear!!! Not only do they not hold up, I feel that they add nothing to the game personally.
Also wasn't trying to rip you about those cards. To me, non stock cards are just another cheap toy
Quoted from High_End_Pins:Cyclopes playfield is torn down.
Really enjoying seeing this one. Thanks for all of the pictures. Love the forced perspective of the artwork with the staircase.
Again, still really boggles my mind how often they use the word "eyes" plural for a game ostensibly about beasts with one eye.
Really a shame how poor the original keylines are on those bonus inserts.
Looking GREAT and I really appreciate the process photos of the more detailed parts of this process.
OOOOOOOO I'VE BEEN WAITING TO WATCH THIS ONE!!!!
Quoted from ToucanF16:Maybe a better question for another forum, but does HH play similar to BH?
Totally different gameplay (completely different style of rules, one being noticeably better than the other) but the artwork is really what makes HH shine. Very excited to see some photos from this job. Endless little artwork bits have fun with.
Quoted from High_End_Pins:I need a 6800uf 25v capacitor
You need to replace that orange filter cap with one with a higher value. That cap is known to wreak havoc on all system 80 games. Often times people put 15,000uf 50v caps in but I've read/been told that that ends up shocking the filter caps in a serious manner and if those aren't in a good place, it will end poorly.
Clay's guides say that 10,000 uf is a sweet spot. I have this one in my HH and it hasn't caused my any problems and fits directly in the bracket already mounted to the board.
ebay.com link: 1 PC 10 000uf 10000uf 10000mfd 50V Electrolytic Capacitor 105c
Quoted from Bakerman:Can you please tell me what this means as I have never heard of it?
Shock wasn't the right word. I'm no EE and I don't want to derail this beautiful thread, but from my understanding that filter cap doesn't have enough capacitance to properly filter the voltages coming in from the 12v tap off the transformer. Value too high, and it puts stress on the 12vdc bridge rectifier. There's plenty written about it online from more capable people than myself
Nope. There should be a rubber stretching between two posts by the upper VUK. Without it, the ball will fall into the machine and behind the lower playfield (and will by Murphy's Law, land in-between two lugs on the transformer and short the whole game out and make a BIG spark).
Your first picture is right but it's installed backwards. It should mimic the shape of the plastic/post area. It works as an upper playfield deflector to prevent a ball hopping up there and getting stuck/breaking the plastic from the upper PF pop bumper
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To be honest, I'm not really sure a ball has ever actually hopped up there and broken a plastic, but that's where it's supposed to be.
Quoted from High_End_Pins:Color changing LEDs in the light up post.
I tried putting the "fire" LED in those posts from Comet and really didn't like the motion of it. Was hoping for a really subtle flicker but not so much. Might try putting a piece of diffusion over it to make it seem a little more realistic but who knows.
Those illuminated posts get REALLY hot with regular incandescents and I had to buy some long lamp sockets for them to accommodate frosted LEDs.
Quoted from zucot:Can't wait to play this one when its all done.
This is a really interesting point to me. I feel like the two main pieces of thrill for the commons is the thrill of watching and following this thread and the thrill of owning a genuine HEP game. It’s rare to have the opportunity to play and look at one as a casual observer.
If anybody in NE has an HEP and wouldn’t mind me looking at it, shoot me a PM
Quoted from PinMonk:Are you using an LED OCD to make the insert LEDs attack and decay more naturally? I love that product. Spectacular results.
Anybody who puts money into these restorations and doesn't use the LEDOCD for both GI and Inserts is a fool tbh.
I noticed in your Addams Family Video Updates™️ that you don't recommend using a beefed up speaker in the in cabinet woofer. Curious which speakers you DO use and recommend as the "stock" speakers for WPC games, Pre and Post DCS sound board?
MORE SPIRIT!!! YES!!!
Chris, while I’m at it, do you find that games that get completely new cabinets are heavier than the original cabinets?
Interesting to notice that the shooter rod area is notched like that. I was under the impression that that was only on Haunted House to accommodate for the playfield angle and the higher legs. Is spirit 27" legs all around or does it have the 31" legs in the back just like Haunted House?
Always so cool to see a rare pin get the HEP treatment. Also adding Cyclopes to the “horniest pins of all time” list.
Quoted from High_End_Pins:Knockout cabinet continues building up.
I usually install a keyless lock on the back doors.
But then how are they going to keep people from stealing it on location???
Honestly, I'm here for the shop organization imagery maybe even more so than the playfield/pinball imagery. Looks great.
Very timely. I'm working on a Sopranos teardown myself right now, so I'll be watching all your PF repopulation closely to see what pictures I forgot to take
Quoted from ryank11379:It needs a gabagool topper. Maybe some dry aged salami.
I have been desperately trying to find some sort of plastic spaghetti figurine that I can drill a hole in to replace the pole dancing girls.
Quoted from High_End_Pins:Playfield clearing
Alright, which one of you freaks out there is sending all of their Sys80 playfields to Chris and making me fawn over them.
Furthermore, when they're all finished, can I come over.
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