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HEP This Week 9-28-2020


By High_End_Pins

2 years ago



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“EBD Trim legs will be black regardless ”

  • Stainless/Factory 35 votes
    31%
  • Blacked out 54 votes
    48%
  • Painted Gold matched to cabinet 24 votes
    21%

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#4301 1 year ago
Quoted from littlecammi:

That mummified head looks cool, but why photograph it against a background of what could be the worst chess set ever, or red and white hair curlers you placed neatly on a chess board for some reason?

#4302 1 year ago
Quoted from Crispin:

Hi Chris, please excuse me from distracting you from creating more pin porn but I have a newb question. I have a shooter rod made of Easy Flow 60 2 part resin that I painted with acrylic paints and I'd like to know what you suggest I should seal the paint with. Also which adhesive you would you to affix the head to the rod?[quoted image]

I would try a bit of spraymax 2k.

Its auto clear in a can, so perfect for small projects.

#4303 1 year ago

Hey Chris I was wondering....how much primer and paint do you think each cabinet and backbox receives? A quart, pint, how many ounces whatever?

And then do you apply whatever you mix whether it needs it or not to try not to have any leftover.

Thanks in advance!

#4304 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Coating over the acrylic isn’t something I am well versed in because I use auto paints and clears
Auto clear is probably fine for it though and really would hold up well to the oils from hands and regular use. I would try it out on something I didn’t care about first to gauge compatibility.
Fusor makes the products that bond all types of substrates to one another.
https://www.lord.com/products-and-solutions/adhesives/fusor-127ez-plastic-bonding-adhesive-%28slow%29

Thanks for the help Chris!

Quoted from littlecammi:

That mummified head looks cool, but why photograph it against a background of what could be the worst chess set ever, or red and white hair curlers you placed neatly on a chess board for some reason?

Ouch thanks for not holding back little c! I carved that set by hand and Love it. 20180828_095856 (resized).jpg

#4305 1 year ago
Quoted from Crispin:

Thanks for the help Chris!

Ouch thanks for not holding back little c! I carved that set by hand and Love it. [quoted image]

I think it looks awsome and very modern with a retro twist.

#4306 1 year ago

Thanks pinballinreno, perfect description of what I was shooting for. Different strokes, at least littlecammi feels strongly about it.

#4307 1 year ago
Quoted from Crispin:

Thanks for the help Chris!

Ouch thanks for not holding back little c! I carved that set by hand and Love it. [quoted image]

I like the shapes, have you 3D modeled for printing?

#4308 1 year ago
Quoted from Crispin:

I carved that chess set by hand and love it.

Oops! Then please just focus on the compliment I paid to your mummified head shooter rod.

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#4309 1 year ago

Folded up the TZ and moved it to the
warehouse. 3F394169-FC5C-4AA2-B06B-0B9BC09812C7 (resized).jpeg

Gutted the TOM base game.
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It is worth noting that TOM is a game specific cabinet.
The details of that are important because the transformer is shifted over the left more.
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The reason is if not it will hit the lock post coil bracket picture here
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Because of that the vent holes are located in an odd pattern.
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This also makes it necessary to recess and locate one of the transformer t nuts under the left skid.

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#4310 1 year ago

Old TOM cabinet is gutted.
It is really a nice original so I will offer it for sale at some point comes as pictured with the trim,mirror blades and speaker. t. Lmk if you are interested.

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#4311 1 year ago

Wiring the new TOM cabinet.
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The playfield build is just about complete and needs a new home. image (resized).jpg
That was pretty tedious over the weekend TOM uses a few coils that really set on the top edge of the playfield. These can easily chafe other wiring or get tabs broken off.
As a result I make sure to solder heavy and protect. image (resized).jpg

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This includes the lock post but that goes on later because the backboard screw.
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#4312 1 year ago

Big Yeti break!
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It is part of my weekend acquisitions.

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#4313 1 year ago
Quoted from timab2000:

Hey Chris I was wondering....how much primer and paint do you think each cabinet and backbox receives? A quart, pint, how many ounces whatever?
And then do you apply whatever you mix whether it needs it or not to try not to have any leftover.
Thanks in advance!

It takes about 3/4 of a gallon to get three good coats on the head and lower inside and out.
The goal is to bury the wood grain. The first coat just soaks in that allows the next two coats to build up from there.
I would rather put any mixed primer on the cabinet than in the trash knowing it will mostly be sanded away during the straightening and prep process.

#4314 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

It takes about 3/4 of a gallon to get three good coats on the head and lower inside and out.
The goal is to burry the wood grain. The first coat just soaks in that allows the next two coats to build up from there.
I would rather put any mixed primer on the cabinet than in the trash knowing it will mostly be sanded away during the straightening and prep process.

Wow that's a lot more than I thought. Great work on everything, like always. Thanks

#4315 1 year ago

Playfield is in the TOM cabinet. 42034A4D-8D37-4EF9-AFB6-244E5C5C54AB (resized).jpeg
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Starting to stage the HG cabinet up for rebuild.

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#4317 1 year ago

I’m always amazed how quickly it appears you are able to restore these pins.

#4318 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Playfield is in the ToM cabinet.

Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

I’m always amazed how quickly it appears you are able to restore these pins.

With this ToM restore the quick progress is almost like...magic.

#4319 1 year ago

Chris -

Question for you. Are these posts in real time? I was just wondering that as I was reading through the thread. I mean like when you clear coat, and every day there is progress, is that like stuff that you had done already, or is it as it happens?

Just a curiosity to me.

Chris

#4320 1 year ago
Quoted from SilverUnicorn:

Chris -
Question for you. Are these posts in real time? I was just wondering that as I was reading through the thread. I mean like when you clear coat, and every day there is progress, is that like stuff that you had done already, or is it as it happens?
Just a curiosity to me.
Chris

These are real time. Since I am always working on four or five games at a time I am able to keep things moving.
If the playfield is curing for one I can build another,if the cabinet is freshly primed I can sand and paint one I did the day before.

#4321 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

These are real time. Since I am always working on four or five games at a time I am able to keep things moving.
If the playfield is curing for one I can build another,if the cabinet is freshly primed I can sand and paint one I did the day before.

Thanks for the reply. That makes these updates even more impressive (if that were possible).

Chris

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#4322 1 year ago

TOM done.

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#4323 1 year ago

Playfield.

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#4324 1 year ago

Inside.

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#4325 1 year ago

Wow! Just amazing work.

#4326 1 year ago

Just posted the completed TZ a few days ago and already another one. Really cool.

#4327 1 year ago

That Theatre of Magic is STUNNING! Truly amazing work.

#4328 1 year ago

TOM is play tested and dialed in as needed.

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#4329 1 year ago

Now packed and out to the warehouse.

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#4330 1 year ago

Next up I need to gather the HG parts up for plating.
The coin door makes up the majority of parts to be plated.

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#4331 1 year ago

Coin doors are a pain in the ass. Back when I used to "restore" (I use that term lightly) old Bally games for myself, I'd do the coin doors and lockdown area first just to get it over with. Then it was onto the fun stuff.

#4332 1 year ago

Went to the warehouse and dropped the TOM off.
Grabbed the Centaur base game for the special Centaur.
I did not have a need for it until the cabinet and playfield was ready. 47C20ADE-A205-45E5-9666-577AE59A5565 (resized).jpeg
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While there I grabbed a load of playfields that are good references for builds like my Centaur diagram ED13A1EA-3F43-4C68-ACA8-7A0851DAE621 (resized).jpeg
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This beat playfield gives me a lot of info

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#4333 1 year ago

Other playfields are ones that came in with recent projects.

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#4334 1 year ago

Centaur base is interesting.
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I noticed when I opened it up it was not quite as yellowed as I am used to seeing in the whites.
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Underside does not have the gray coating. image (resized).jpg
My best guess is that these people did a playfield swap at this time.
The game would have be about 5 years old at that time. image (resized).jpg
None of the braid was restapled. Always neat to try and figure things like this out.
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#4335 1 year ago

More stuff floating around in the cabinet
A Brentwood Country Club card in a Centaur pinball machine.
Interesting.

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#4336 1 year ago

Now I am going to grab a few basics off the Centaur for nickel plating

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#4337 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Other playfields are ones that came in with recent projects.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

the playmate on the right of the bally playboy still reminds me of kitty (debra jo rupp) from 'that 70s show'

#4338 1 year ago

Hey at least you will know who to call if you need help repairing it.

#4339 1 year ago
Quoted from timab2000:

Hey at least you will know who to call if you need help repairing it.

True. I thought about how much harder it might have been to do a swap back then without a computer or digital camera.
They probably had a couple sitting around and just copied it.

#4340 1 year ago

HG is set up to teardown
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It is rough.
Free play!!!!
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Crusty
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Inside.
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Extra profit
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Manuals included
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These look unused dirty but unused
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Sealed service bag. Pretty cool never seen one from this era.

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#4341 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Sealed service bag. Pretty cool never seen one from this era.

This one is from right after they quit putting the wood stick bulb remover in the goodie bag. Ops got pissed and quit buying games over it. So Bally started putting the parts in again. Wood stick and black rubber tube. But quit paying someone to assemble it. Ops got their free thing again and life went on. Yours is a later unassembled one.

LTG : )

#4342 1 year ago

Explains how you're able to afford that expensive beer you drink and the rest of us can't afford!

#4343 1 year ago

Show of hands, who else want's to be HEP when they grow up!

#4344 1 year ago
Quoted from LTG:

This one is from right after they quit putting the wood stick bulb remover in the goodie bag. Ops got pissed and quit buying games over it. So Bally started putting the parts in again. Wood stick and black rubber tube. But quit paying someone to assemble it. Ops got their free thing again and life went on. Yours is a later unassembled one.
LTG : )

Cool. I have done many of these older games and never seen it.Nice to hear the backstory behind it too.

#4345 1 year ago
Quoted from meSz:

Explains how you're able to afford that expensive beer you drink and the rest of us can't afford!

It’s all about prioritizing my needs

#4346 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

It’s all about prioritizing my needs

I hear ya! We're coming up on our season for beers so might have some coming your way!

#4347 1 year ago

When I know I am replacing the cabinet,the playfield,the plastic set,line filter,all coils ,lamp sockets etc etc
I find it easier just to wash the entire game down as a starting point.
Only the lowers because the heads are a slightly different animal with the lamp panel,transformer etc by the time you break those down it is easier to go a part at a time but the lower cab and playfield there isn’t much there that will be reused.
That being the case I can really get out in front of the cleaning and polishing this way.
I know this might seem horrific but trust me at this level it is just a means to an end

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#4348 1 year ago

Inside let the chemicals do their thing

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#4349 1 year ago

Rinsed down.

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What this has done is really given me a solid relevant jig to really work on cleaning the harness and parts I will rebuild.
The minor things like the switch blades and brackets really shine and these tend to fall apart if cleaned in the sink once unbolted.

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#4350 1 year ago

The top is done the same way with the same results. The screw post etc are already looking good

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