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This thread just keeps moving and moving! I miss 2 days and there's 100+ posts! Really awesome to see the pf work done on Grand Prix and all of the cabinet rework done. I wish I had a 1/10 of this skill!
So when you repainted the yellow I guess you just mask around the number area and do no paint around each individual number? That makes sense as I thought you went around each specific digit and painted. That would take FOREVER and almost be impossible to have it look right.
Nice work.
B50ABFF5-D1F9-4AD6-9EDF-0BE0519815C3 (resized).jpegQuoted from chuckwurt:So when you repainted the yellow I guess you just mask around the number area and do no paint around each individual number? That makes sense as I thought you went around each specific digit and painted. That would take FOREVER and almost be impossible to have it look right.
Nice work. [quoted image]
Thank you
Yes that is how it was done on this playfield.
Trying to cut something like those commas out for instance would just gouge the playfield up too much and if the masking material even stayed put from the cut out it would probably blow right off during the spraying.
On some colors the method can look almost perfect on others like yellow or white that is impossible so I am looking for improvement and acceptable in those cases.
On this playfield specifically it will never look truly perfect in the lettering or numbers because there is an age and swirling in the background of them.
These type of restorations are kind of like plastic surgery.
You have a 40 year old patient that wants to look like they are 20 again but there are limitations.
Quoted from High_End_Pins:Thank you
Yes that is how it was done on this playfield.
Trying to cut something like those commas out for instance would just gouge the playfield up too much and if the masking material even stayed put from the cut out it would probably blow right off during the spraying.
On some colors the method can look almost perfect on others like yellow or white that is impossible so I am looking for improvement and acceptable in those cases.
On this playfield specifically it will never look truly perfect in the lettering or numbers because there is an age and swirling in the background of them.
These type of restorations are kind of like plastic surgery.
You have a 40 year old patient that wants to look like they are 20 again but there are limitations.
Haha. Great analogy. Hopefully someday I can get this kind of treatment on my Grand Prix. And possibly my Jungle Queen.
Keep up the good work!
The paddles are shaved down. image (resized).jpg
A tape line is run to protect the floor. image (resized).jpg
The fiberglass filler is intermixed with the standard filler to make it a little easier to work with for this repair because there is limited room to sand within the recess area.
image (resized).jpgimage (resized).jpgimage (resized).jpgQuoted from High_End_Pins:Dinner is served.
A bowl of oatmeal,chicken,carrots,broccoli,avocado, and almonds.
It is all about nutrients.
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The Tom Brady of pinball restoration.
Quoted from Pinsterwmass:The Tom Brady of pinball restoration.
I wouldn't insult him like that. Brady's a has been.
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Quoted from o-din:I wouldn't insult him like that. Brady's a has been.
bitter
Quoted from o-din:I wouldn't insult him like that. Brady's a has been.
o-din's got a point. heck, the lions beat him last week
Working on the inside now.
Some people ask why I paint the side walls in full instead of just partially down
More often than not there are things that need filler or are ugly.
This cabinet is a good example
Stains
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Voids in the wood. This one is about 2 feet long. image (resized).jpgimage (resized).jpg
Sanding filling and neatly painting will be an upgrade.
Quoted from j_m_:o-din's got a point. heck, the lions beat him last week
really bitter
Cabinet is finally ready to prime. image (resized).jpg
There is no need for me to mask the topside of the floor because I need to paint the cash box area and the rest is covered completely by the mech tray image (resized).jpg
Head is in good order. image (resized).jpg
I will metal etch and prime the rear panel for the head and cabinet metal plate because I am going to refinish those as well.
image (resized).jpgQuoted from High_End_Pins:Mylars removed. [quoted image]
The playfield is chemically cleaned which won’t do much on a heavily swirled playfield like this. [quoted image]
Then lightly scuffed up.
The thing about a playfield like this is every time you clean or scuff you create more work but you have to do it to get the surface ready to clear.
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What do you use to lightly scuff up the playfield?
I have a really rough Grand Prix that I want to send to HEP someday. Just waiting for my options to vest at work or to have a distant uncle bequeath me a big bag of money. Love your work dude.
Melbourne
Quoted from djh00000:That's great!!!
Thanks!!
Dan
Chris is the best and was the only person I would send a machine to for these repairs, better than new.
Great Job Chris.
We made it to another Friday.
Today I am ambitious and focused on Grand Prix.
I hope to get the cabinet sanded and painted as well as the playfield.
We will see how close I get to accomplishing that
First step is getting the messy things done first so that is sanding starting with the cabinet and the cabinet parts.
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Your sanding always seems to go incredibly fast and turn out perfectly. I realize that is hard won skill coupled with super good tools. From a practical detail perspective, what grits do you typically step through on the initial stripping? After that, what grit(s) do you typically use for perfecting the primer?
Quoted from pinheadpierre:Your sanding always seems to go incredibly fast and turn out perfectly. I realize that is hard won skill coupled with super good tools. From a practical detail perspective, what grits do you typically step through on the initial stripping? After that, what grit(s) do you typically use for perfecting the primer?
Stripping usually 80 grit
Filler work 80/180
Ready to prime 180
Sanding primer 320
Sanding clear to clear again 600
At what point do you decide to replace a cabinet vs repair it? It seems like you put a lot of work in repairing this cabinet. Would it not have been more time/cost effective to replace it instead?
Now I can sand the playfield
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I need to do the white to clean it up and build it up to the level of the previous repaints image (resized).jpg
I will face those same lettering challenges we saw in the yellow and will do my best to interpret and make lines that flow around the things I cannot individually mask. image (resized).jpg
I will also do the green and have that challenge as well as the teal.
image (resized).jpgimage (resized).jpgQuoted from FatPanda:At what point do you decide to replace a cabinet vs repair it? It seems like you put a lot of work in repairing this cabinet. Would it not have been more time/cost effective to replace it instead?
More often than not I replace cabinets but some cabinets like this are one off restorations for me so *if* I feel like I can salvage it I will to keep things moving.
In order to have this cabinet built I would need to hand it off to the builder and wait at least a month or so then when I get it back I would need a to really scrutinize so many details that it just doesn’t make sense on this project.
More common restores I do like Centaurs,Fathoms,IJs,TAFs and many more I have samples parked at the builder so it is just a matter of ordering.
Restorations like the Spirit where I am doing 3 it makes more sense to provide a sample and wait for as well.
Working on a match for the teallike color.
It is a process. image (resized).jpg
Started here. image (resized).jpg
Settled here after some tinting image (resized).jpg
It isn’t just about the color it is about the drabness of the aging that has to get factored in so the colors will pop but not clash too hard with the background of the letters and numbers.
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Wellesley, ON
Quoted from Mitch:How come you dont paint over the numbers then use waterslide decals to put them back on after?
Two reasons for me that are most influential are
I can’t turn every thing I touch into a total ordeal or else I wouldn’t get anything out the door. These games have owners that would like to get them back.
That would be a lot of decals to bury in clear coat which would look nice but cause potential problems with everything from gameplay to longer term cracking.
Quoted from High_End_Pins:Two reasons for me that are most influential are
I can’t turn every thing I touch into an total ordeal or else I wouldn’t get anything out the door. These games have owners that would like to get them back.
That would be a lot of decals to bury in clear coat which would look nice but cause potential problems with everything from gameplay to longer term cracking.
thanks!!! That makes sense. Keep up the amazing work.
Now the white.
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I am going to take two different approaches to that.
I am goin to make an aged newspaper like shade for the areas with lettering because putting bright white around those would look really obvious.
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Newspaper shade sprayed in the lettered areas only.
527397B8-C815-44C3-9AA8-4E620CBE59B9 (resized).jpeg9E0C5657-A931-42B6-8CA0-07D777DB5AB6 (resized).jpegBright white in the art and GI type areas.
This step will visually add an extra color to the playfield but I think it will look cleaner overall and is a solution to a problem.
6E04F3BD-5CF3-4CBE-ADB1-521C1820778E (resized).jpeg78B9D32D-63FE-42AA-9FD4-4FAAD39AF56A (resized).jpegD78366E2-01FB-42B0-AA7D-8ED7CA6FFE78 (resized).jpegQuoted from chuckwurt:No saucer kickout wear!! Lovely.
I was thinking the same, this entire machine is very clean considering its, uh hum,... age.
Quoted from chuckwurt:Ahhh. No saucer kickout wear!! Lovely.
It did have a little from the eject but the saucer itself is nice and within shape.
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