Quoted from jasonp:Adam Levine looks like a Mike Ness wannabe...
Hey don't mess with NESS! He is the man!
Quoted from jasonp:Adam Levine looks like a Mike Ness wannabe...
I definitely would have rather watched Another State of Mind again than the first half and the halftime show.
Hopefully the second is better. At least it is close.
Quoted from Squeakman:Hey don't mess with NESS! He is the man
I've seen SD 20 time's and met Mr Ness a time or two ...
Quoted from jasonp:seen SD 20 time's
Lived in Phoenix in 80s 90s so it was very easy...
Quoted from jasonp:Lived in Phoenix in 80s 90s so it was very easy...
The come through here often. I have seen them once a few years ago. Amazing live band. Mike still has it even as he ages.
I'm sure you have been asked this before, but about how long on average does it take you start to finish on a game?
Quoted from timab2000:I'm sure you have been asked this before, but about how long on average does it take you start to finish on a game?
WPC game reworking a repro playfield with new cabinet around 125 hours
Same reworking the original playfield and or cabinet probably 150
Bally solid state with stenciled cabinets,drops,all new sockets rebuilding connectors reworking repro playfield easily 200 or more.
Those are the most time consuming and most undervalued restorations there are.
Quoted from Green_Demon:How about something like this?
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If the gray was black, I think I’d like it better. The pinstripe is very nice.
Quoted from Scoot:If the gray was black, I think I’d like it better. The pinstripe is very nice.
Like this eh? That's the beauty of Photoshop... 2 seconds later and you can see what it would look like instead of guessing.
WhirlwindCab2 (resized).jpgQuoted from Green_Demon:Another idea...
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I puked just a bit when looking at that.
Just to balance out that last comment, I want to say that it’s commendable that you try different things and are so open with sharing your ideas with all of us. Thanks Chris.
We should all remember that Chris doesn’t have to be so open with everything he does so, yes, voice your opinions, but no need to be dicks here. This is the best thread on pinside.
Quoted from Green_Demon:Another idea...
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That is cool you can try out effects before hand. Sometimes things in your head look so much better than the real thing. I have been caught doing that with powder coating and colored GI (hence the troll forums I hate so much associated with both ). I am so used to seeing all black coin doors for so long that any deviation looks strange. But I always like to be different.
In photoshop, try a all black coin door with the orange pinstripe. In my mind that would look good too.
Quoted from Scoot:That is cool you can try out effects before hand. Sometimes things in your head look so much better than the real thing. I have been caught doing that with powder coating and colored GI (hence the troll forums I hate so much associated with both ). I am so used to seeing all black coin doors for so long that any deviation looks strange. But I always like to be different.
In photoshop, try a all black coin door with the orange pinstripe. In my mind that would look good too.
Instead of coin door being a different color, why not just the lighted parts? I did this with my Shadow and tried a few different colors. I liked them so much that I plan on doing them on all my pins. I think the blue would look good. or cool white?
You have to get the clear coin plastics here: https://www.pinballlife.com/search.html?Search=clear%20coin
PBL-100-0072-00_360x360 (resized).jpg20181230_153248 (resized).jpg20181230_153559 (resized).jpgThe more piece-y the coin door gets, the worse it looks to me. I don't mind solid blue for a perfect blend. Or classic black. Definitely agree with whoever said the coin door shouldn't be a focal point. Art should pop; hardware is a necessary wart.
Quoted from Multiball33:How about chrome just for the coin entry and return plates? What color will the legs and rails be? If its stainless it wouldnt draw as much attention. I like the pinstripe on the blue door.
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wow! really like the powder coat in your Metallica
How about the door frame to match the cabinet with the orange strip where you had it and a black door with black parts on the door. I kind of liked the blue to match the cabinet but it just seemed like too much blue. Going with the frame blue & the coin door black might make a nice mix?
Quoted from zerbam:hey HEP'S last post was 22 hrs ago.......is he on vacation today?
All the coin door color talk drove him away from the hobby.
Quoted from zerbam:hey HEP'S last post was 22 hrs ago.......is he on vacation today?
Been working on my special WW apron.
Not cleared yet and being matched more to the playfield than the cabinet since it will rest there.
Definitely better than black.
Cabinet bolts painted tomatch the locations are placed.
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The pivot bolts were based and cleared in the white then the gaps were just roughed back in with the gray.
Might take another pass or two to clean it up but at a glance looks nice.
Tearing down the special Whirlwind playfield. image (resized).jpg
I am becoming a bit undecided as to whether I should restore the original playfield or go with a new one.
As is very common these look much better assembled.
As you get under the parts you find unexpected things like nails hammered in that should not be there.
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Wear under Cliffys (ok I did expect that)
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Raised inserts.
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Kickout wear.
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Blown out ramp screw holes.
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If needed or desired I can absolutely restore this playfield but the reality is that new when possible is usually a better long term solution.
I have asked the owner his preference and will go whatever route that is.
Quoted from High_End_Pins:Tearing down the special Whirlwind playfield. [quoted image]
I am becoming a bit undecided as to whether I should restore the original playfield or go with a new one.
As is very common these look much better assembled.
As you get under the parts you find unexpected things like nails hammered in that should not be there.
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Wear under Cliffys (ok I did expect that)
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Raised inserts.
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Kickout wear.
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Blown out ramp screw holes.
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If needed or desired I can absolutely restore this playfield but the reality is that new when possible is usually a better long term solution.
I have asked the owner his preference and will go whatever route that is.
I was going to say that pf looks way better then mine. And that cab looks amazing.
Quoted from Twilight1:I was going to say that pf looks way better then mine. And that cab looks amazing.
ya we are so proud of our games.... until we come into this thread eh...
Quoted from lb1:This dry install video is excellent.
Quoted from lb1:This dry install video is excellent.
This is Jim restoring my friend's SS. I've seen it in person and it is amazing. Jim's not currently restoring buy my friend really wants his TAF Gold restored. I'm trying to get him to send it to Chris!
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