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HEP This Week 2-24-2020


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“EBD Trim legs will be black regardless ”

  • Stainless/Factory 35 votes
    31%
  • Blacked out 54 votes
    48%
  • Painted Gold matched to cabinet 24 votes
    21%

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#1551 1 year ago

TAFTC translite is polished on the front side
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Glass cleaned
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Assembled
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#1552 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

TAFTC translite is polished on the front side
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Glass cleaned
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Assembled
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How much snow did you get?

#1553 1 year ago
Quoted from lordloss:

How much snow did you get?

Not much.
Maybe an inch.
Mostly miserable freezing rain so far.

#1554 1 year ago

Boards are removed at least the ones present
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They are all pretty clean and unhacked do they are serviceable and exchangeable.
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The driver is exchanged
Dot controller need is filled with a serviced original
CPU looks really good so for now just installing a remote holder. Anything pops up later I have originals ready to go.
Flipper one need is filled with a clean original.
Sound looks fine same situation if anything pops up I can swap.

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#1555 1 year ago

Teardown of the playfield is underway. image (resized).jpg

Metal condition is similar to the last one so it requires an extra step or two.
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Chock the appearance type post in the drill
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Turn them in scotch brite8BBD61AA-C0D7-44A2-8A78-049C1574B0CB (resized).jpeg

Rust and corrosion gone
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Now they can be tumble polished.
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#1556 1 year ago

Playfield is out of the cabinet.

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#1557 1 year ago

Playfield Wiring is removed and separated

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#1558 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Not much.
Maybe an inch.
Mostly miserable freezing rain so far.

Last check we had 14.5". Had 16" in the back of my truck. Looks like I will be doing pin stuff for a few days.

#1559 1 year ago

The tree is finally coming together.
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Christmas cookie and beer to cap the evening. E2B95D3C-5F89-4026-AF17-AFF194F9FEF5 (resized).jpeg

#1560 1 year ago

TAFTC is stripped of all needed playfield parts.
The rest of what is on there will be replaced.
This would be things like targets,rails lamp sockets.

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#1561 1 year ago

There is a lot there to go through and figure out where the trash and the treasure are. image (resized).jpg
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After I sort that out I will gut the cabinet.

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#1562 1 year ago

TAFTC playfield Metal is in the tumblers. image (resized).jpg

Wiring and boards are cleaned and being layered in storage bins.

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#1563 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

TAFTC translite is polished on the front side
New channels
Assembled

is it just me, or has anyone else ever wondered why the side channels do not fill up the entire side of the translite glass? blocking the light would be a lot more effective if the channels ran the length of the glass on the top and bottom and just between on the sides, rather than the 1/2" gap that exists on the side channels

#1564 1 year ago

I have also wondered this!

#1565 1 year ago
Quoted from j_m_:

is it just me, or has anyone else ever wondered why the side channels do not fill up the entire side of the translite glass? blocking the light would be a lot more effective if the channels ran the length of the glass on the top and bottom and just between on the sides, rather than the 1/2" gap that exists on the side channels

Typical bean counting probably Every inch saved in raw materials equals more channels.

You could buy three top channels individually and cut them to exact length though instead of the premade sets like I installed on that translite.

#1566 1 year ago

TAFTC Cabinet gutted of all useful parts.

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#1567 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

TAFTC Cabinet gutted of all useful parts.
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Cmon that alarm is suuuuper useful!

#1568 1 year ago
Quoted from snakesnsparklers:

Cmon that alarm is suuuuper useful!

I am starting to wonder if that alarm was actually a warning alarm not a security one.

#1569 1 year ago

Ready for the scrap heap.

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Fresh batch of TAF and EBD parts back from nickel plating.

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#1570 1 year ago

Ready to start prepping the new TAF cabinet.

Not too much to that yet.
Mostly need to drill the pivot holes.
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Install some t nuts image (resized).jpg

Then mask the floor inside and out.

#1571 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Ready for the scrap heap.
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you're not going to list it on craigslist as a "project" pinball?

#1572 1 year ago

When making the pivot holes especially on the tilt only playfield games my preference is 1/8 back and down compared to factory.

The idea behind this is it will fit more forgiving coming to rest more easily in the lock bar receiver given variances than copying the factory perfectly.
Wood shrinks,expands,factories have off days and duds so this is a protection put in place.
Here is the difference it can mean nothing or a lot.
Back to front

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Bottom to top.
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End result will be.
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It will have no bearing on how the game plays only how well the playfield and cabinet mesh together.

#1573 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

When making the pivot holes especially on the tilt only playfield games my preference is 1/8 back and down compared to factory.
The idea behind this is it will fit more forgiving coming to rest more easily in the lock bar receiver given variances than copying the factory perfectly.
Wood shrinks,expands,factories have off days and duds so this is a protection out in place.
Here is the difference it can mean nothing or a lot.
Back to front
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Bottom to top.
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End result will be.
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It will have no bearing on how the game plays only how well the playfield and cabinet mesh together.

Odd stuff like this is helpful as I am setting up my own CNC files for my TAF build. Would TAF and a game like Funhouse have the same pivot location?

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#1574 1 year ago
Quoted from lordloss:

Odd stuff like this is helpful as I am setting up my own CNC files for my TAF build. Would TAF and a game like Funhouse have the same pivot location?
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Cool. Trust me if I do it or bother documenting it it is because it is important or something helpful.

Pivot holes can vary game to game so can blocking,chocking,back panel inclusion,exclusion length,bevels and lots more.
Cabinets are much more game specific than can be put into words.
If you are building one you really need an accurate example to copy per game.
There is a little carryover here and there but much less than you can see with the eye.

#1575 1 year ago

When drilling I really like the pin point accuracy of a forstener bit.

If you set that point right at your measurement intersections and hold it straight and flat it is going to be accurate.

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#1576 1 year ago

Next was the head lamp board bracket holes. 2C56257C-7107-41E2-A540-13E969225688 (resized).jpeg

A bit easier because copying the factory is just fine there.

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#1577 1 year ago

Factory has a square shaped hole on the outside to account for the carriage bolt, hasn't it? Is there any downside to making it round? Like risking to have the bolt head turn as you tighten screw on the inside the and wrinkle the freshly installed decal. Ask me how I know....

#1578 1 year ago
Quoted from lb1:

Factory has a square shaped hole on the outside to account for the carriage bolt, hasn't it? Is there any downside to making it round? Like risking to have the bolt head turn as you tighten screw on the inside the and wrinkle the freshly installed decal. Ask me how I know....

Not that I have seen.
The hole made is smaller than the square of the bolt so as it draws in it there is no risk of spinning.
The square hole you see in an original cabinet started out round like these the bolt is what created the square which is why it remains round in the inside.
Main thing is it needs to be smaller than the square. Larger would be a problem.

#1579 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Not that I have seen.
The hole made is smaller than the square of the bolt so as it draws in it there is no risk of spinning.
The square hole you see in an original cabinet started out round like these the bolt is what created the square which is why it remains round in the inside.
Main thing is it needs to be smaller than the square. Larger would be a problem.

On top of this, don't overtighten the bolts or the art will wrinkle at the bolt hole. A lesson that I had to learn the hard way on my very first restoration.

#1580 1 year ago

A new power box is made up for the TAFTC 15EB3145-E07D-4C61-A01E-0352E037EC22 (resized).jpeg
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The transformer is cleaned up with a new molex housing and light refinishing.
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#1581 1 year ago

Cabinet is masked and the face of the head finessed.
This last round of cabinets from Virtuapin has been very nice. The corners are sharp and they have required little extra effort to prep for primer.

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#1582 1 year ago

The TAFTC apron was a bit mangled. 751AD553-3007-4C3E-A099-C633B7A13DB6 (resized).jpeg
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That was straightened and primed and guidecoated.

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#1583 1 year ago

The replacement TAFTC cabinet and head are primed and guidecoated

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#1584 1 year ago

Picked up some parts from powder coating for the TAFTC.
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Dropped a load of them off there as well.

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#1585 1 year ago

Fit the next EBD cabinet trim on the head and started prepping that for primer.

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#1586 1 year ago

There are four playfields coming out of the last lot
LOTR,WH2O,TAFTC,and EBD
That makes room for a couple more.
Those will be an NOS Airborne that will be used later in the newly arrived Airborne game.
Also a NOS BSD.

Neither are fully drilled or dimpled but I do not have a template for either so I will proceed with these knowing they will need to be carefully drilled and dimpled later.
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#1587 1 year ago

Those impressions in the Airborne are lightly sanded FF798DA5-5BCC-4AD2-82F2-03B49CACBE84 (resized).jpeg481E2516-5733-447C-B364-1A3AA74A6AC5 (resized).jpeg

Then roughly touched up and filled in with clear to get a jumpstart on that process.

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#1588 1 year ago

Time for the weeks beer shipment

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Evening beer.
Going back to 2014.

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#1589 1 year ago

Ready to tackle the TAFTC bookcase assembly.
This was found at the bottom of the cabinet. image (resized).jpg

The base and links need to be replaced.
As will the switches,optosc and wiring
I do have a spare nickel plated bracket.

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#1590 1 year ago

Mmmmmmmmm, Bourbon county stout!

#1591 1 year ago
Quoted from j_m_:

is it just me, or has anyone else ever wondered why the side channels do not fill up the entire side of the translite glass? blocking the light would be a lot more effective if the channels ran the length of the glass on the top and bottom and just between on the sides, rather than the 1/2" gap that exists on the side channels

You can't get them completely flush without notching the back to not interfere with the adjacent piece. The backside is longer than the front. Thus, there will always be a gap, and they probably make one size to fit many. Remember, backglasses and translites all would vary in sizes. Stern has been uniform, but many before were not.

#1592 1 year ago
Quoted from Jarbyjibbo:

On top of this, don't overtighten the bolts or the art will wrinkle at the bolt hole. A lesson that I had to learn the hard way on my very first restoration.

The decal wrinkles because the bolt holes in the decal were too small. Bolts when driven in twists the decal.

#1593 1 year ago
Quoted from jj44114:

The decal wrinkles because the bolt holes in the decal were too small. Bolts when driven in twists the decal.

They will also wrinkle/distort if the bolt is pulled in enough to deform the wood. The bolt head, not just the decal in the the bolt space, will work the decal just as much.

#1594 1 year ago

TAFTC bookcase assembly is rebuilt with the requested/supplied decal all new switches wiring etc.

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#1595 1 year ago

Thing assembly was another
disassembled part laying in the cabinet.

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It is missing a small ball trap metal part that goes on the hand.
I ordered that. D25FB63F-7FD2-4EBF-BAA2-85759A9E83B1 (resized).jpeg

It is caked with grease and doesn’t operate when tested with the motor. AD7490DA-F1D8-4B68-AD57-0F5717D6794F (resized).jpeg

#1596 1 year ago

The motor gear is stripped.
Probably happened from trying to turn the seized gearbox. 59BBB1B9-9D33-426E-9B8C-E0DC2042FA66 (resized).jpeg

I drill the gearbox rivets to split it in halves. A7767591-3913-46F2-A258-19DFE8C6ECB0 (resized).jpeg

I can clean,check and repack with grease the gears individually now.
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All old grease is removed.
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#1597 1 year ago

The gears are repacked and set. 20A2FE4D-45CE-41EF-9BC8-CDECC6A17D97 (resized).jpeg

The motor bracket is removed from the old motor and placed on a good motor.
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#1598 1 year ago

The motor reworked with better wiring then it is mounted to an old playfield and cycled with a nine volt battery.
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Then the new customer supplied hand is installed.
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I need a new opto board as well so I will button this up the rest of the way when I install it on the game.

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#1599 1 year ago

Why are gear boxes packed full of grease instead of lubed with something like liquid teflon? Seems like it would be extra work for the motor to chew through all that grease, and eventually it dries out & jams. I'm sure there's a good reason since it's always been done that way.

#1600 1 year ago
Quoted from yancy:

Why are gear boxes packed full of grease instead of lubed with something like liquid teflon?

Was liquid teflon available 26 years ago ?

Not to mention nothing changes on those gear boxes in 75 + years. They were supposed to last a few years and the whole game junked and replaced with a new game. They weren't building for collectors years later. It is amazing they last as long as they do.

LTG : )

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