(Topic ID: 225528)

HEP This Week 12-2-19


By High_End_Pins

1 year ago



Topic Stats

  • 5,665 posts
  • 356 Pinsiders participating
  • Latest reply 2 hours ago by Pin-Pilot
  • Topic is favorited by 354 Pinsiders

You

Linked Games

Topic poll

“EBD Trim legs will be black regardless ”

  • Stainless/Factory 35 votes
    31%
  • Blacked out 54 votes
    48%
  • Painted Gold matched to cabinet 24 votes
    21%

(113 votes)

This poll has been closed.

Topic Gallery

There have been 11,054 images uploaded to this topic. (View topic image gallery).

8DB6A1F1-7EF0-4D72-B767-DA44D5E03A58 (resized).jpeg
19D6CC46-F098-44A3-A8DF-20ECDA8C49E0 (resized).jpeg
0A444971-D6DE-480B-8351-4119A032AFC7 (resized).jpeg
0958F1CF-6607-4CB0-A6D8-F9D08FB28EE5 (resized).jpeg
C3F0A4D5-417B-497D-807B-0464419D8153 (resized).jpeg
60404681-B154-45E0-A6F7-14641552B262 (resized).jpeg
image (resized).jpg
image (resized).jpg
image (resized).jpg
image (resized).jpg
image (resized).jpg
image (resized).jpg
image (resized).jpg
image (resized).jpg
image (resized).jpg
image (resized).jpg

Topic index (key posts)

57 key posts have been marked in this topic, showing the first 20 (Show topic index)

There are 5665 posts in this topic. You are on page 26 of 114.
#1251 1 year ago
Quoted from chad:

When completed, how many games are played for official testing. ?

I'd move next door to HEP if he was taking volunteers to play test.

#1252 1 year ago
Quoted from chad:

When completed, how many games are played for official testing. ?

As many as it takes to get it dialed in and playing well.
Sometimes that can be as little as a couple games because if it is playing well and working properly there is no reason to keep playing it.
Other times it can take several plays and more extensive tuning.
The games I am really well versed in are generally the ones that need the least play time because I already know and address the potential issues during the build.
I also adjust and set every switch while building and check ball flow and clearance at that time. These things coupled with building the serviceability into the mechs saves a lot of trouble on the back end.

#1253 1 year ago

Starts the day with bowl of oatmeal and fruit.
AF9A0A47-64BF-45E7-9A5E-F4E771E8D7B3 (resized).jpeg

Notices there is no longer a table to sit and eat it at.
image (resized).jpg
It is about to get Christmas crazy in this house.
I can feel it.

#1254 1 year ago

Absolutely STUNNING work per usual Chris! Cannot wait to see that EBD when it's done too.

#1255 1 year ago

I happen to have a black door I can use just to check out on the EBD
This one has a texture finish but should help me make a final decision.
It looks good on there I would sand and paint it though and rebuild it with better matching slots and a black lock ifgoing that route. image (resized).jpg

I don’t have a gold door but could easily turn the black one into it.
I do have a few gold frame parts left to place and get a sense of
If I go that route I will use the same gold paint I used on the cabinet for a perfect match.

image (resized).jpg
#1256 1 year ago

I think a gold door will look awesome!

#1257 1 year ago
Quoted from snakesnsparklers:

I think a gold door will look awesome!

As much as I hate to say it because of the process involved I agree.
Thinking the gold door and black rails works the best as previously suggested.
Gold rails are going to run too close to the art on the cabinet ,black will just blend in.
A black door is just a little plain looking gold would be nicer within that red art.

#1258 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

It is about to get Christmas crazy in this house.
I can feel it.

Haha can't wait to see pics of the decorations.

I am off this week which means I am starting to set up our outdoor decorations. It will take me a solid few days to get it all put up. I try to go all griswold for the holiday.

#1259 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

As much as I hate to say it because of the process involved I agree.
Thinking the gold door and black rails works the best as previously suggested.
Gold rails are going to run too close to the art on the cabinet ,black will just blend in.
A black door is just a little plain looking gold would be nicer within that red art.

Awesome!!! That seriously made my morning knowing you liked my black rails and gold door idea!!! I’m pumped!!!

#1260 1 year ago
Quoted from AUKraut:

Awesome!!! That seriously made my morning knowing you liked my black rails and gold door idea!!! I’m pumped!!!

My eye and mind love it.
My productivity level hates it

#1261 1 year ago

A midday beer always helps my productivity level...

#1262 1 year ago

Seriously... everything in this thread is interesting... I am looking forward to seeing all the decorations....hell I bet it would be a great read if you documented yourself doing yardwork

#1263 1 year ago

I still like what we chatted about last night. etching the metal and going with a black brushed look. would still be nice and clean looking and less likely to get all "fingerprinty"

#1264 1 year ago

The polls are closed

Trim sanded and prepped.

0A974469-5ACB-4976-B8C1-41993F955C15 (resized).jpeg1A839093-CB0F-42DA-8AB2-49353DABBFCB (resized).jpeg
#1265 1 year ago

Based in black.

Then cleared. It is the same gloss level as cabinet and legs because I think the idea behind the black is just to let it disappear into the cabinet so the gloss level plays a part in that as much as the color itself.

4F64F139-0940-4BAF-870C-1938DB1330E4 (resized).jpeg618ECD87-06E6-4F9F-950D-31357963DB2A (resized).jpegE0B00383-CD0C-4C51-A6D7-170F96CD6F05 (resized).jpeg
#1266 1 year ago

Let’s get this midday workout nonsense over with today.

1 minute count down.
This is an interval clock.
You are active one minute and get twenty seconds to recover.
image (resized).jpg
This one is set to fifteen intervals so that means five different exercises can be done three times

I make a new one up just before I get started image (resized).jpg

Then I set up the stations it is kind of cool to see how the room can be quickly transformed.

image (resized).jpgimage (resized).jpgimage (resized).jpgimage (resized).jpg
#1267 1 year ago

Boom
All done with that.
Just like it never happened. image (resized).jpgimage (resized).jpg

Let’s finish it off with a quick spin around the neighborhood.
Got this bike through Pinball networking.
Not sold in the US
Thanks Sebastian!image (resized).jpg

#1268 1 year ago

I'm starting to think HEP the business is just a front for HEP the ultimate man cave. Don't worry, we won't tell your wife.

#1269 1 year ago

What is a “workout”? Never tried it

#1270 1 year ago
Quoted from yancy:

I'm starting to think HEP the business is just a front for HEP the ultimate man cave. Don't worry, we won't tell your wife.

She is actually my main partner in crime.
Hates! Having her picture taken so you have to catch her off guard which is why she is rarely seen in the thread.
This one alone could get my lunch poisoned

EB86FB2E-96FE-4CDC-B347-ADDFAA79533F (resized).jpeg
#1271 1 year ago

Beer shipment 1 of the week has arrived.
EF308B67-CDA8-464F-B926-6B8AA4DD446C (resized).jpeg

Most curious about this one.
24DA8F28-4ACA-4B63-A943-400991EF41E3 (resized).jpeg

#1272 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Let’s get this midday workout nonsense over with today.
1 minute count down.
This is an interval clock.
You are active one minute and get twenty seconds to recover.

I think that one of the run-dmd clocks would look much better

#1273 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Beer shipment 1 of the week has arrived.
[quoted image]
Most curious about this one.
[quoted image]

Aged in bourbon barrels... get ready for a real potent brew.

#1274 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Beer shipment 1 of the week has arrived.
[quoted image]
Most curious about this one.
[quoted image]

Where do you get your beer shipments from? - looks like some great choices.....

#1275 1 year ago
Quoted from Analogkid:

Where do you get your beer shipments from? - looks like some great choices.....

Bruisin Ales in Asheville NC and Craftshack in San Diego CA primarily.

Also have some great friends and customers that send them to me occasionally.

#1276 1 year ago

Back to the EBD

The biggest challenge I see in converting the LE to a standard traditional cabinet is the lamp panel and display wiring.
The traditional game has a full size backbox with the displays well spread out.
The LE has them very close together in a small square.
This means there will not be enough wiring to reach the displays if reusing the the LE for the traditional.
I have traditional harness for those purposes laid out.
There are three parts.
image (resized).jpg

Display and interconnection one entire unit.
image (resized).jpg

Auxiliary lamp interconnection harness.
image (resized).jpg

The actual backbox lamp panel harness this would be the one that powers and controls the light in the backbox

image (resized).jpg

Some of these I will have to make from scratch others I may be able to make adapters for so I can cleanly mate the ones of the LE with the ones so make.

image (resized).jpg
#1277 1 year ago

More EBD donors and clutter.

image (resized).jpg
#1278 1 year ago

Five o’clock.
Time to pack the TAF
image (resized).jpg

Get baptized
39BA0D21-D501-49B8-A64B-88C42825A81F (resized).jpeg

And see What’s Happening!!

That Raj has really outdone himself dancing at the party.He is trying to make time with Dwayne’s best girl! E3AD5F15-3689-4518-A8F0-ED38106A366A (resized).jpeg
7D5A7A90-8FC6-46B8-A6CE-D29A46762851 (resized).jpeg

#1279 1 year ago

EBD LE is set up beside the 84 version.
Of course the traditional has already been somewhat gutted but I do have all three versions now in house.
image (resized).jpg

This is the backbox lamp panel to solve. image (resized).jpg

New traditional panels are made and painted.
image (resized).jpg

The LE panel will at least provide the latches. image (resized).jpgimage (resized).jpg

It will also have the display brackets.

image (resized).jpg
#1280 1 year ago

The EBD trim color combo is determined.

How do I end the poll?

#1281 1 year ago

Lamp panels now have sockets.

image (resized).jpg
#1282 1 year ago

You know what this thread really inspires me to do? Be QUICKER.
There’s stuff getting done here in three days that I have delayed for two years.
I look at my Tommy, and have grand plans for it, including its Kruzman NOS PF, and think, man that’s gonna take forever. And BOOM, Chris finishes off ANOTHER Tommy in what, 4 days end to end?
Just got to get off my butt and get to it!

#1283 1 year ago

With the work, diet and exercise…I say you should just become a pinball life coach! Hell, I would consider flying there with a machine to “do it myself” alongside a master.

#1284 1 year ago
Quoted from Aniraf:

With the work, diet and exercise…I say you should just become a pinball life coach! Hell, I would consider flying there with a machine to “do it myself” alongside a master.

Sounds like fun. Would be a great way to get some free help maybe even have the helpers paying me.

#1285 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Sounds like fun. Would be a great way to get some free help maybe even have the helpers paying me.

Maybe run a "pinball camp" every so often. Could accommodate a few people at a time. Bet you'd have a waiting list.

#1286 1 year ago

Wiring up the lamp panels this morning.

I decided to gut the 84 donor game instead of the LE
The main reason I am doing that is because of conditions.

The LE is in much nicer cosmetic condition than the 84 and it just seems foolish to trash it even if it might be the least desirable of the series.
That combined with the wiring and fact that I already have too much of my own time and money tied into the projects means I am better not to have three carcasses when all the dust settles as I am only filling two orders.

I like to put the thought process out there sometimes and the realities of it as well.

image (resized).jpg
#1287 1 year ago

The lamp panels will be reconfigured.
The sockets were upgraded.
Staple down bayonets mostly
image (resized).jpg

The only exception to that are the push in IDC style used in the wooded lamp block.These will be easier to push wedge style bulbs in given how tight the block circles are. image (resized).jpg
image (resized).jpg

The feature lights and main landing points of the GI are wired.
There will be no bare wire only insulated. image (resized).jpg

Next I will run the GI with all new wire.
The goal is to pull it so tight that it will not need to be stapled.
I have traced the original path out to copy but there will likely be some small changes to clean up minor things.
image (resized).jpg

image (resized).jpgimage (resized).jpg
#1288 1 year ago

Perfect timing, I'm about to make a new lampboard for my Incredible Hulk, no cnc here though all by hand. So very nice to see how you do it.

What gauge wire are you using for the GI there? I have a decent supply of 22ga would that be sufficient? Thanks.

#1289 1 year ago
Quoted from BorgDog:

Perfect timing, I'm about to make a new lampboard for my Incredible Hulk, no cnc here though all by hand. So very nice to see how you do it.
What gauge wire are you using for the GI there? I have a decent supply of 22ga would that be sufficient? Thanks.

22 is fine.
That is what I am using on this.

image (resized).jpg
#1290 1 year ago

One lamp wiring is done.

Hard to put into words how much more time consuming it is to reconfigure or do most things from scratch compared to reusing the old.
Ultimately it does provide a higher quality and cleaner final product though.

I think based on just the time spent to date on the EBD project so far I could have easily restored one entire WPC game. These are just so time consuming.

Wired then tested.

134FF769-64AD-4EE2-A018-5F9B534BC72D (resized).jpegB75607AB-ADD1-4FD5-8062-62F40283323A (resized).jpegDE9C0755-39B0-4583-926B-60188A7323AA (resized).jpeg
#1291 1 year ago

Working on the second one now.

image (resized).jpg
#1292 1 year ago

Short break today. Run over to the warehouse New arrival

A99E7371-D6AB-4CB5-9800-5BD31F6774FA (resized).jpegimage (resized).jpg
#1293 1 year ago

Looking forward to see your magic applied to The Shadow!

#1294 1 year ago

Beer shipment 2 of the week has arrived.
Just in time for Thanksgiving.
CFB91049-CB02-404C-914A-0FB7986AEE65 (resized).jpeg

This guy looks like he is having a good time.
A62C554C-6CBD-4E75-8FEB-CD5F495F3910 (resized).jpeg

#1295 1 year ago

More supplies for tomorrow.
79023600-B407-4E8B-92F3-2DA53CA676F8 (resized).jpeg

I always double check the weights to make sure I am sent what I paid for.
0C3C75ED-2B37-461D-A7A4-09DA47A7E536 (resized).jpeg

It’s the only way

All fine. CA5170BF-0BB4-408B-9F7E-022CB4713750 (resized).jpeg

#1296 1 year ago

Back to my lamp boards. Getting close to done with the second one.

Making a different pattern so I can easily tell them apart.

image (resized).jpg
#1297 1 year ago

Second EBD panel is wired for light and tested.
28D23E20-A715-4D75-A39C-40ACBCD107CB (resized).jpeg

Next will be the light shields.

It will take six of them.
image (resized).jpg
These cost about $12 each so that is $60 right there for shields
Then figure just $1.25 for each socket and there are 50 and that is also just roughly $60 so $120

Now it cost $100 to have the panel made so now we are at $220

We had to prime it,sand it ,paint it then spend a full half a day wiring it .

Even on a conservative estimation this is a $400 lamp panel and that is probably not really enough.

I put that real world cost and effort thought out there because I think the things that people don’t see sometimes are undervalued and under appreciated but are some of the toughest to create or deal with.

#1298 1 year ago

New lamp shields are in place.
These are screwed in not stapled. image (resized).jpg
image (resized).jpg
image (resized).jpg

Next will be figuring out the hole locations for the display brackets.
These have been nickel plated.
image (resized).jpg

Holes needed at each location.
image (resized).jpg

New panel current example.

image (resized).jpg
#1299 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Next will be the light shields.

The 3D printed ones? I just got some in for Laser Ball, nice and sturdy.

Quoted from High_End_Pins:

display brackets.
These have been nickel plated.

Oh that's a dandy touch!

#1300 1 year ago

Interesting they changed the guy on the Daniel Boone bottle. It used to be Bobby Bush who owns hops and grapes in hickory (a nice bottle shop to check out in hickory along with the craft beer cellar). You should try Lindley Park from OHB if you haven't had it before. It's pretty sweet but really tasty.

Promoted items from the Pinside Marketplace
$ 75.00
Playfield - Toys/Add-ons
pinballmod
There are 5665 posts in this topic. You are on page 26 of 114.

Hey there! Got a moment?

Great to see you're enjoying Pinside! Did you know Pinside is able to run thanks to donations from our visitors? Please donate to Pinside, support the site and get anext to your username to show for it! Donate to Pinside