Quoted from chad:
When completed, how many games are played for official testing. ?
I'd move next door to HEP if he was taking volunteers to play test.
Quoted from chad:
When completed, how many games are played for official testing. ?
I'd move next door to HEP if he was taking volunteers to play test.
Quoted from chad:
When completed, how many games are played for official testing. ?
As many as it takes to get it dialed in and playing well.
Sometimes that can be as little as a couple games because if it is playing well and working properly there is no reason to keep playing it.
Other times it can take several plays and more extensive tuning.
The games I am really well versed in are generally the ones that need the least play time because I already know and address the potential issues during the build.
I also adjust and set every switch while building and check ball flow and clearance at that time. These things coupled with building the serviceability into the mechs saves a lot of trouble on the back end.
I happen to have a black door I can use just to check out on the EBD
This one has a texture finish but should help me make a final decision.
It looks good on there I would sand and paint it though and rebuild it with better matching slots and a black lock ifgoing that route. image (resized).jpg
I don’t have a gold door but could easily turn the black one into it.
I do have a few gold frame parts left to place and get a sense of
If I go that route I will use the same gold paint I used on the cabinet for a perfect match.
Quoted from snakesnsparklers:
I think a gold door will look awesome!
As much as I hate to say it because of the process involved I agree.
Thinking the gold door and black rails works the best as previously suggested.
Gold rails are going to run too close to the art on the cabinet ,black will just blend in.
A black door is just a little plain looking gold would be nicer within that red art.
Quoted from High_End_Pins:
It is about to get Christmas crazy in this house.
I can feel it.
Haha can't wait to see pics of the decorations.
I am off this week which means I am starting to set up our outdoor decorations. It will take me a solid few days to get it all put up. I try to go all griswold for the holiday.
Quoted from High_End_Pins:
As much as I hate to say it because of the process involved I agree.
Thinking the gold door and black rails works the best as previously suggested.
Gold rails are going to run too close to the art on the cabinet ,black will just blend in.
A black door is just a little plain looking gold would be nicer within that red art.
Awesome!!! That seriously made my morning knowing you liked my black rails and gold door idea!!! I’m pumped!!!
Quoted from AUKraut:
Awesome!!! That seriously made my morning knowing you liked my black rails and gold door idea!!! I’m pumped!!!
My eye and mind love it.
My productivity level hates it
Seriously... everything in this thread is interesting... I am looking forward to seeing all the decorations....hell I bet it would be a great read if you documented yourself doing yardwork
I still like what we chatted about last night. etching the metal and going with a black brushed look. would still be nice and clean looking and less likely to get all "fingerprinty"
Based in black.
Then cleared. It is the same gloss level as cabinet and legs because I think the idea behind the black is just to let it disappear into the cabinet so the gloss level plays a part in that as much as the color itself.
Let’s get this midday workout nonsense over with today.
1 minute count down.
This is an interval clock.
You are active one minute and get twenty seconds to recover.
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This one is set to fifteen intervals so that means five different exercises can be done three times
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Then I set up the stations it is kind of cool to see how the room can be quickly transformed.
I'm starting to think HEP the business is just a front for HEP the ultimate man cave. Don't worry, we won't tell your wife.
Quoted from yancy:
I'm starting to think HEP the business is just a front for HEP the ultimate man cave. Don't worry, we won't tell your wife.
She is actually my main partner in crime.
Hates! Having her picture taken so you have to catch her off guard which is why she is rarely seen in the thread.
This one alone could get my lunch poisoned
Quoted from High_End_Pins:
Let’s get this midday workout nonsense over with today.
1 minute count down.
This is an interval clock.
You are active one minute and get twenty seconds to recover.
I think that one of the run-dmd clocks would look much better
Quoted from High_End_Pins:
Beer shipment 1 of the week has arrived.
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Most curious about this one.
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Aged in bourbon barrels... get ready for a real potent brew.
Quoted from High_End_Pins:
Beer shipment 1 of the week has arrived.
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Most curious about this one.
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Where do you get your beer shipments from? - looks like some great choices.....
Quoted from Analogkid:
Where do you get your beer shipments from? - looks like some great choices.....
Bruisin Ales in Asheville NC and Craftshack in San Diego CA primarily.
Also have some great friends and customers that send them to me occasionally.
Back to the EBD
The biggest challenge I see in converting the LE to a standard traditional cabinet is the lamp panel and display wiring.
The traditional game has a full size backbox with the displays well spread out.
The LE has them very close together in a small square.
This means there will not be enough wiring to reach the displays if reusing the the LE for the traditional.
I have traditional harness for those purposes laid out.
There are three parts.
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Display and interconnection one entire unit.
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Auxiliary lamp interconnection harness.
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The actual backbox lamp panel harness this would be the one that powers and controls the light in the backbox
Some of these I will have to make from scratch others I may be able to make adapters for so I can cleanly mate the ones of the LE with the ones so make.
Five o’clock.
Time to pack the TAF
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Get baptized
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And see What’s Happening!!
That Raj has really outdone himself dancing at the party.He is trying to make time with Dwayne’s best girl! E3AD5F15-3689-4518-A8F0-ED38106A366A (resized).jpeg
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EBD LE is set up beside the 84 version.
Of course the traditional has already been somewhat gutted but I do have all three versions now in house.
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This is the backbox lamp panel to solve. image (resized).jpg
New traditional panels are made and painted.
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The LE panel will at least provide the latches. image (resized).jpg
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It will also have the display brackets.
You know what this thread really inspires me to do? Be QUICKER.
There’s stuff getting done here in three days that I have delayed for two years.
I look at my Tommy, and have grand plans for it, including its Kruzman NOS PF, and think, man that’s gonna take forever. And BOOM, Chris finishes off ANOTHER Tommy in what, 4 days end to end?
Just got to get off my butt and get to it!
With the work, diet and exercise…I say you should just become a pinball life coach! Hell, I would consider flying there with a machine to “do it myself” alongside a master.
Quoted from Aniraf:
With the work, diet and exercise…I say you should just become a pinball life coach! Hell, I would consider flying there with a machine to “do it myself” alongside a master.
Sounds like fun. Would be a great way to get some free help maybe even have the helpers paying me.
Quoted from High_End_Pins:
Sounds like fun. Would be a great way to get some free help maybe even have the helpers paying me.
Maybe run a "pinball camp" every so often. Could accommodate a few people at a time. Bet you'd have a waiting list.
Wiring up the lamp panels this morning.
I decided to gut the 84 donor game instead of the LE
The main reason I am doing that is because of conditions.
The LE is in much nicer cosmetic condition than the 84 and it just seems foolish to trash it even if it might be the least desirable of the series.
That combined with the wiring and fact that I already have too much of my own time and money tied into the projects means I am better not to have three carcasses when all the dust settles as I am only filling two orders.
I like to put the thought process out there sometimes and the realities of it as well.
The lamp panels will be reconfigured.
The sockets were upgraded.
Staple down bayonets mostly
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The only exception to that are the push in IDC style used in the wooded lamp block.These will be easier to push wedge style bulbs in given how tight the block circles are. image (resized).jpg
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The feature lights and main landing points of the GI are wired.
There will be no bare wire only insulated. image (resized).jpg
Next I will run the GI with all new wire.
The goal is to pull it so tight that it will not need to be stapled.
I have traced the original path out to copy but there will likely be some small changes to clean up minor things.
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Quoted from BorgDog:
Perfect timing, I'm about to make a new lampboard for my Incredible Hulk, no cnc here though all by hand. So very nice to see how you do it.
What gauge wire are you using for the GI there? I have a decent supply of 22ga would that be sufficient? Thanks.
22 is fine.
That is what I am using on this.
One lamp wiring is done.
Hard to put into words how much more time consuming it is to reconfigure or do most things from scratch compared to reusing the old.
Ultimately it does provide a higher quality and cleaner final product though.
I think based on just the time spent to date on the EBD project so far I could have easily restored one entire WPC game. These are just so time consuming.
Wired then tested.
Second EBD panel is wired for light and tested.
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Next will be the light shields.
It will take six of them.
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These cost about $12 each so that is $60 right there for shields
Then figure just $1.25 for each socket and there are 50 and that is also just roughly $60 so $120
Now it cost $100 to have the panel made so now we are at $220
We had to prime it,sand it ,paint it then spend a full half a day wiring it .
Even on a conservative estimation this is a $400 lamp panel and that is probably not really enough.
I put that real world cost and effort thought out there because I think the things that people don’t see sometimes are undervalued and under appreciated but are some of the toughest to create or deal with.
New lamp shields are in place.
These are screwed in not stapled. image (resized).jpg
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Next will be figuring out the hole locations for the display brackets.
These have been nickel plated.
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Holes needed at each location.
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New panel current example.
Quoted from High_End_Pins:
Next will be the light shields.
The 3D printed ones? I just got some in for Laser Ball, nice and sturdy.
Quoted from High_End_Pins:
display brackets.
These have been nickel plated.
Oh that's a dandy touch!
Interesting they changed the guy on the Daniel Boone bottle. It used to be Bobby Bush who owns hops and grapes in hickory (a nice bottle shop to check out in hickory along with the craft beer cellar). You should try Lindley Park from OHB if you haven't had it before. It's pretty sweet but really tasty.
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