AFM RU lamp panel.
No more hot glue.
AFM RU lamp panel.
No more hot glue.
Quoted from High_End_Pins:Not that I know of.
There used to be some available about 10 years ago but no more.
I bet your job gets a little harder each passing year with parts availability on the 80’s & 90’s era pins. A testament to your skill and creativity.
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:I bet your job gets a little harder each passing year with parts availability on the 80’s & 90’s era pins. A testament to your skill and creativity.
Thanks.
It seems like some portions of the work get harder others get a little easier.
What’s a more difficult to understand sometimes is some parts that were being reproduced well no longer are being produced well if at all so often I get caught off guard in terms of what is or isn’t going to be a problem heading into certain titles.
Quoted from High_End_Pins:Thanks.
It seems like some portions of the work get harder others get a little easier.
What’s a more difficult to understand sometimes is some parts that were being reproduced well no longer are being produced well if at all so often I get caught off guard in terms of what is or isn’t going to be a problem heading into certain titles.
What do you do for idc sockets you find in the backbox on all the early 90s games that are always dried out and brittle. Do you have a secret stash laying around or do you have a good alternative
Quoted from mmr61184:What do you do for idc sockets you find in the backbox on all the early 90s games that are always dried out and brittle. Do you have a secret stash laying around or do you have a good alternative
No source for those. I have looked into having them made but no luck.
Pinball Life or PBR would be the best bet if there were enough demand.
Quoted from PantherCityPins:Are you using automotive paint as your base?
I use it for pretty much everything.
Quoted from High_End_Pins:I use it for pretty much everything.
Snacks, sheets, fertilizer, is there anything it can't do?
Quoted from PinMonk:Snacks, sheets, fertilizer, is there anything it can't do?
Not that I have found
Quoted from High_End_Pins:Fusor the cracks.
Love when you mention products from auto restoration like this that I can learn about.
Quoted from High_End_Pins:No source for those. I have looked into having them made but no luck.
Pinball Life or PBR would be the best bet if there were enough demand.
I’ve checked with numerous distos and the answer from all is they have been unable to find a remanufacturing source. If someone could remake them I’m sure 1000s would sell instantly.
Would be simple to organise in China, i'd guess, you'd only have to be willing to pay the mold fees.
Quoted from punkin:Would be simple to organise in China, i'd guess, you'd only have to be willing to pay the mold fees.
Mold fees are all upfront and likely the barrier since demand is unknown.
Quoted from PinMonk:Mold fees are all upfront and likely the barrier since demand is unknown.
Have to imagine demand is tremendous, with all the restorations out there and these things are always fried
Quoted from mmr61184:Have to imagine demand is tremendous, with all the restorations out there and these things are always fried
If someone in the business agreed with you it would probably already be done. for the sake of 10k or something up front, then whatever to order hem in thousands for a few cent's each.
Quoted from punkin:If someone in the business agreed with you it would probably already be done. for the sake of 10k or something up front, then whatever to order hem in thousands for a few cent's each.
Yeah, that's the problem. Putting up a large amount then selling a lot of small transactions to get your money back. I'm not against that, I've done $15k-$20k projects upfront, and sometimes they come back relatively quickly, and other times they take a looooong time. It's essentially how long do you want your money tied up plus the risk of a design/materials flaw found after manufacture that makes the entire run worthless.
Chris, I was wondering if I could ask if you could go into a little more detail on how you repair / clean / prep these lamp panels.
You say you use Fusor on the cracks, is there a specific type used? For cleaning do you just run it under water and scrub? What are
you using when you say you plastic primed and based in white? Where do you get the sockets to replace the sockets?
Finally, if you came across a game that used one of these lamp panels and it was damaged beyond repair, what would be your solution?
Any information is appreciated..
Thanks..
Quoted from Pinminister:Chris, I was wondering if I could ask if you could go into a little more detail on how you repair / clean / prep these lamp panels.
You say you use Fusor on the cracks, is there a specific type used? For cleaning do you just run it under water and scrub? What are
you using when you say you plastic primed and based in white? Where do you get the sockets to replace the sockets?
Finally, if you came across a game that used one of these lamp panels and it was damaged beyond repair, what would be your solution?
Any information is appreciated..
Thanks..
Much of this is covered on my YouTube channel.
This covers what I do if a panel is beyond repair for example. .
HEP update 12-8-21
Thanks Chris, i just subscribed to your channel and watched a couple of videos on repairing these, very informative.
Still i didn't catch, what type of glue / epoxy are you using for panels that have cracks that your repairing. In the one video
you said you're using Fusor, if I wanted to buy some of this is there a specific type of this you use?
Thanks..
Quoted from punkin:Would be simple to organise in China, i'd guess, you'd only have to be willing to pay the mold fees.
It's not just the plastic molds- the metal IDC fitting and the bulb socket itself need to be integrated into the part as well as well- I'm guessing if it was just a plastic part someone would have already remade it.
Quoted from Pinminister:Thanks Chris, i just subscribed to your channel and watched a couple of videos on repairing these, very informative.
Still i didn't catch, what type of glue / epoxy are you using for panels that have cracks that your repairing. In the one video
you said you're using Fusor, if I wanted to buy some of this is there a specific type of this you use?
Thanks..
I was looking at this too, I think it could be Fusor 152.
Also see here for their automotive repair products:
https://www.lord.com/emea/products-and-solutions/brands/fusor---aftermarket-repair-adhesives
At one time you could buy just the plastic molds, I think Marco used to sell them, in fact I posted a wanted ad a few weeks ago seeing if anyone had one for MM that they would be interested in selling. The Marco part# for it is 03-9419-50059 and if anybody does have one, I'm still interested.
Thinks radium for your answer on the glue, I want to have some of that on hand in case any problems develop down the road.
Be pretty boring having 2 easy AFM. Looks amazing already!!
Quoted from High_End_Pins:AFM RU lamp panel.
No more hot glue.
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Quoted from number_runner:Be pretty boring having 2 easy AFM. Looks amazing already!!
I am starting to like boring projects after the last few.
Chris, when you get the armor powder coated like on this Shadow, do you put some kind of felt or other soft surface on the inside of the hinge to protect against scratching at all?
It may be a non-issue as I'm sure most of the pins you restore never really get moved/transported much, if at all, once they're setup back in someone's home...
I ask because I want to do this to my TZ(already have the black legs on), but I also take it every year to the Golden State Pinball Festival and am afraid the raising and lowering of the head might introduce some light scratches there.
Quoted from Miguel351:Chris, when you get the armor powder coated like on this Shadow, do you put some kind of felt or other soft surface on the inside of the hinge to protect against scratching at all?
It may be a non-issue as I'm sure most of the pins you restore never really get moved/transported much, if at all, once they're setup back in someone's home...
I ask because I want to do this to my TZ(already have the black legs on), but I also take it every year to the Golden State Pinball Festival and am afraid the raising and lowering of the head might introduce some light scratches there.
I usually put a small bit of Mylar where the lockbar meets the rails on the rails and or a piece of dense target foam in the same location on the lockbar.
image (resized).jpgimage (resized).jpgimage (resized).jpgThe Shadow RK is finally done.
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Watched your TOTAN video with that (idk what color) green powdercoat and the Radcals to cover up all the crap underneath it. What a nightmare. That's why I stray away from buying pins where people have already redecaled them.
As a professional painter, I know what it takes to properly prep and do everything necessary to make the wood perfect for a new decal set. I highly doubt most of the people doing their cabinets over actually know what they're doing. They're just slapping decals on as best they can to cover up a world of mess and sin. I'd rather just do them myself. That way I know they're done right.
Anyway... Great job again Chris.
Quoted from PantherCityPins:I may have missed it, do you have a preferred source for decals?
I would bet Phoenix Arcade if he has any left is one of the top choices. Problem is he does not have the licenses anymore, for some reason Rick does not want to work with him
Man. I had a tough week and weekend.
I felt a soft spot in my prep room floor. I built that in 2008 as a glorified shed.
Carpenter ants took a liking to it.
Had to rip up two layers of subfloor.
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Once I got in there I had numerous issues.
Mostly joist settling started blocking chocking and sistering C7134FDF-DB82-46F1-AFDA-8CC4DDC34BFE (resized).jpeg
Two days and my back is sore.
Got the first layer of subfloor down. 3/4 treated this time.
Glue and sawdust in any gaps. 8E7E759D-DD92-45CC-B475-03C7078278FD (resized).jpeg66632007-5E9F-4754-BD6F-7E66BAE06573 (resized).jpeg
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Need to move all the heavy equipment back after I figure out if one layer is good or I I should add another. I think the compressor is about 500 to 600 lbs. The paint cabinet is heavy as hell too. The floor is so much more solid feeling now but…
Wow, that's definitely not the kind of surprise you want on your holiday weekend! But like your restores, it amazes me how quickly you work and were able to replace all those sheets and boards. And did you do all that yourself?!? Man time to break out the beers if you can lift them
You are da man. Damn, your last several months have seen numerous home issues and upgrades. Hopefully you have clear sailing from here on.
Once again Chris does anther hep project over the weekend while the rest drank and slacked and worried about beads. This guy makes us all look bad again. Nice job again i hope you skipped some of your workout seeing this was why more of a work out. I didn't see Maverick supervising like every project. I hope maverick was pulling the air compressor with his teeth on the tug rope tied to it.
Quoted from cp1610:Once again Chris does anther hep project over the weekend while the rest drank and slacked and worried about beads. This guy makes us all look bad again. Nice job again i hope you skipped some of your workout seeing this was why more of a work out. I didn't see Maverick supervising like every project. I hope maverick was pulling the air compressor with his teeth on the tug rope tied to it.
All of this.
Quoted from Strohz:Wow, that's definitely not the kind of surprise you want on your holiday weekend! But like your restores, it amazes me how quickly you work and were able to replace all those sheets and boards. And did you do all that yourself?!? Man time to break out the beers if you can lift them
No definitely not what I had in mind for the weekend.
My wife and Curtis helped me by handing me this,getting me that ,stepping on boards and holding the other side of the tape measure when needed.
As far as the physical labor part that was a solo effort. Either Curtis or my wife would gladly help but my plans are always in my mind and do I just focus and do it. Easier than trying to explain ,manage and often redo.
Quoted from epeabs:You are da man. Damn, your last several months have seen numerous home issues and upgrades. Hopefully you have clear sailing from here on.
I am getting close.
Still have my own bedroom to do and I should be done with my part of things.
I am pretty sure that building I just fixed the floor in is going to need a new roof soon though.
The house and that one building are just showing their age or wear and tear trying to stay on top of things and make improvements when dealing with it.
Quoted from cp1610:Once again Chris does anther hep project over the weekend while the rest drank and slacked and worried about beads. This guy makes us all look bad again. Nice job again i hope you skipped some of your workout seeing this was why more of a work out. I didn't see Maverick supervising like every project. I hope maverick was pulling the air compressor with his teeth on the tug rope tied to it.
Thanks.
I did skip the workouts. Barely made it through one this morning but starting to bounce back. Definitely had that “I am getting too old for this shit” feeling at the end of each night. I put in a solid 45 hours in three days. Almost no breaks. It wasn’t just the work but the work it was holding up with no prep room until completed that drove me. Still need to do some finish work and get the equipment back in place.
Maverick wanted to get out there so badly when the floor was up. His sense of smell had him on high alert.
Quoted from High_End_Pins:Getting tired sooner everyday. Building shelves rearranging everything.
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I have an old house on my property that has powder post beetle damage in the floor joists and I’m dreading going through this exact thing you’re doing.
Quoted from radium:I have an old house on my property that has powder post beetle damage in the floor joists and I’m dreading going through this exact thing you’re doing.
It’s a nasty job at that ground level.
I am in the home stretch.
I always fall down the rabbit hole with almost anything I get involved in for some reason.
Built a smaller playfield buffing table /mobile workbench. It will get trashed so nothing too fancy v56FDB821-69CA-4C01-A946-F1A2ECB7FFD9 (resized).jpeg
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Got the tumblers off the floor. Tired of crouching down dealing with them.
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Found a cabinet specific dolly for my flammable cabinet. That cabinet is extremely heavy. I would paint it but it’s going to get trashed still might though before I move it over. 0EAD953D-BE59-4681-B036-B29D6841CFF1 (resized).jpeg
Quoted from High_End_Pins:Found a cabinet specific dolly for my flammable cabinet. That cabinet is extremely heavy. I would paint it but it’s going to get trashed still might though before I move it over.
You aren’t kidding those are heavy! I have the momma sized one, free from a job site of a friend. Drywall square for reference. Didn’t know they made dollys for them
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