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#12001 53 days ago

AFM FH and Shadow RK playfields sanded and polished.

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#12002 48 days ago

Just about done with Pinball Magic. These Capcoms are slow to assemble.

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#12003 48 days ago

She's Purty,Magical !!
And looks to be in a good mood with that Smile !! Mmmm nice work HEP

#12004 48 days ago

Spent the weekend as usual lately working on the house. Almost done. I have just my bedroom left to do.
Fixed the walls fresh coat of paint. Much lighter than before. ED80324C-008A-41CF-B4B2-CCF7A1F33CE4 (resized).jpegC120DC1B-1C14-4544-978F-59D862C47333 (resized).jpeg

I installed all new switches,outlets and wall plates 10 outlets,six switches in total for those two rooms. . 76AB9CD3-52C7-403A-A148-DE0FEF0D5861 (resized).jpeg7BFAF922-5ABF-49BF-8186-27F8C246ECCD (resized).jpegCF5C5293-7E37-4391-9FC1-67AF144A8506 (resized).jpeg
Bought some cheaper furniture for the granddaughters room. She’s going to be three tomorrow so I want something decent but nothing I am worried about.
Ended up painting all that stuff with the same paint I used on the doors and trim. . FB95998D-975A-4A27-B5E5-21451CB0880D (resized).jpeg9888C3F4-0BDF-4A92-B75C-AF42C7079C62 (resized).jpeg7CAB1286-4DBE-4A98-9CE9-99D5E5B2A6B7 (resized).jpeg47B1FA6B-6F2B-400E-9DBA-B50F107C46DD (resized).jpeg
Put it together with glue in all joints and dowels.
Found knobs to match the door knobs.

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#12005 48 days ago

Never realized all your outlets aren't individually switched over there.

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#12006 48 days ago

They are all live Punkin .................
They were REALLY live in the 70's when I grew up ................ my Moms Butter Knife Set was 1 short and looked like it was a welding rod after I stuck it in a outlet !! Lol , Ouch .....Survived that and Lead paint over here
Some outlets now have what they are referred to as a GFCI , Ground fault breaker built in, usually always now code is in bathrooms and kitchens where water is present as a FYI ........ Good observation Mate

#12007 48 days ago
Quoted from v8torino:

They are all live Punkin .................
They were REALLY live in the 70's when I grew up ................ my Moms Butter Knife Set was 1 short and looked like it was a welding rod after I stuck it in a outlet !! Lol , Ouch .....Survived that and Lead paint over here
Some outlets now have what they are referred to as a GFCI , Ground fault breaker built in, usually always now code is in bathrooms and kitchens where water is present as a FYI ........ Good observation Mate

Yeah. I am switching all the outlets over to the tamper proof ones.
I was getting tired of pulling the safety caps off of the old ones.
When they were in it was a way to keep the baby from putting something in the sockets. When they were out they were a choking hazzard.

#12008 47 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Yeah. I am switching all the outlets over to the tamper proof ones.
I was getting tired of pulling the safety caps off of the old ones.

I can't express what a happy day it was when I was finally able to remove all of the child proofing devices in our house (especially the outlet plugs). I realize it was a different time, but who knows how I ever survived as a kid not having any of these items in our house growing up.

#12009 47 days ago

I would hazard a guess and say more kids have probably died from choking on the inserts than have been electrocuted.

May be wrong...

Matt.

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#12010 47 days ago

But why?

why not have a switch on the wall plug like the rest of the world?

What is the benefit of live wall sockets without switches/ Everything has to be individually turned on and off, you have live power 2' off the floor.

Fucking why?

It's 50 cents more for a panel with a switch surely?

IDon'tGetitPunkin

#12011 47 days ago

But why?

Why is the sky blue, why is grass green?

why not have a switch on the wall plug like the rest of the world?

Because I can sit on the couch and turn on my TV with a remote and not get up. Around here a switch cost @ 2 bucks plus the cover plate.

#12012 47 days ago
Quoted from punkin:

But why?
why not have a switch on the wall plug like the rest of the world?
What is the benefit of live wall sockets without switches/ Everything has to be individually turned on and off, you have live power 2' off the floor.
Fucking why?
It's 50 cents more for a panel with a switch surely?
IDon'tGetitPunkin

We have switches on all our outlets. Yep every time I want a piece of toast I make my wife go out to the breaker box and flip that son of a bitch on. Of course she has to also put her helmet on in case a pine cone falls out of a tree. Dangerous world we live in. Where’s my toast!!

#12013 47 days ago

Ok, you guys don't understand the question. All good.

I turn some things off at the wall. Including the heaters and lights on my snake tank in that pic, that don't have a remote or a switch I turn those switches off and on every day. I'll pay $2 to have them individually switched for ever.

Back to your thread Chris, thanks for your understanding that other cultures don't see these things every day.

#12014 46 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Spent the weekend as usual lately working on the house. Almost done. I have just my bedroom left to do.
Fixed the walls fresh coat of paint. Much lighter than before. [quoted image][quoted image]
I installed all new switches,outlets and wall plates 10 outlets,six switches in total for those two rooms. . [quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]
Bought some cheaper furniture for the granddaughters room. She’s going to be three tomorrow so I want something decent but nothing I am worried about.
Ended up painting all that stuff with the same paint I used on the doors and trim. . [quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]
Put it together with glue in all joints and dowels.
Found knobs to match the door knobs.
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Hey, Chris:

Have you thought about the 'screwless' switch and outlet plates? I have them throughout my house and they have a much cleaner appearance.

If you are not familiar, check Google or Amazon.

Roger

#12015 46 days ago
Quoted from rogerdodger:

Hey, Chris:
Have you thought about the 'screwless' switch and outlet plates? I have them throughout my house and they have a much cleaner appearance.
If you are not familiar, check Google or Amazon.
Roger

Yes. I almost did that they look good but I wanted metal plates.

#12016 46 days ago

Apologies for bringing this OT back. As someone who has spent an equal amount of time living in both environments (and still spends time in both environments), I have seen both sides.

Quoted from punkin:

I turn some things off at the wall.

Power strips in the US often have a master on/off switch. This can take the place of the wall outlet switch. It's not as ideal as a switch in the wall as part of the outlet (fully insulated and protected in the actual wall box) but it is something that can be used to interrupt power.

Quoted from punkin:

I'll pay $2 to have them individually switched for ever.

Typical Australian outlets are dual (two) and have a built-in switch for each outlet (often HPM brand in my experience) as your image indicates. The closest thing available in the US is a combination switch and outlet (See https://www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-Decora-15-Amp-Tamper-Resistant-Combo-Switch-and-Outlet-White-R62-T5625-0WS/202027001 for an example). The combination switch can control a light and provide an outlet or it can be wired such that the switch controls the outlet. I did this for an outlet that I replaced. It's simply a matter of wiring the switch in series with the outlet. However, you only get one outlet instead of two.

Quoted from punkin:

... other cultures don't see these things every day.

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-Australian-outlets-have-switches

The biggest things I can think of are:

  1. You will probably feel 115VAC if you touch it (I don't have any personal experience). 240VAC will probably kill you. Having a physical switch to interrupt the hot neutralizes (pun intended) this risk (assuming you are actually trained to turn the switch off when not in use).
  2. When you insert a plug into 115VAC you can sometimes hear the arcing when the hot (active) and neutral pins connect. When you insert a plug into 240VAC you will hear the arcing. Do this enough time and you will even see scorch marks from the arcing.

Apologies, Chris for the OT post.

#12017 46 days ago

It was just a *shock* to me to see power unswitched. Seems if you turn the switch off that controls all the circuits then all that is plugged in will be turned off.

I just can't imagine what benefit there is in it being unswitched.

I certainly didn't expect the defensive sarcasm and apologize for being so unworldly.

#12018 46 days ago
Quoted from DumbAss:

Apologies for bringing this OT back. As someone who has spent an equal amount of time living in both environments (and still spends time in both environments), I have seen both sides.

Power strips in the US often have a master on/off switch. This can take the place of the wall outlet switch. It's not as ideal as a switch in the wall as part of the outlet (fully insulated and protected in the actual wall box) but it is something that can be used to interrupt power.

Typical Australian outlets are dual (two) and have a built-in switch for each outlet (often HPM brand in my experience) as your image indicates. The closest thing available in the US is a combination switch and outlet (See https://www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-Decora-15-Amp-Tamper-Resistant-Combo-Switch-and-Outlet-White-R62-T5625-0WS/202027001 for an example). The combination switch can control a light and provide an outlet or it can be wired such that the switch controls the outlet. I did this for an outlet that I replaced. It's simply a matter of wiring the switch in series with the outlet. However, you only get one outlet instead of two.

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-Australian-outlets-have-switches
The biggest things I can think of are:

You will probably feel 115VAC if you touch it (I don't have any personal experience). 240VAC will probably kill you. Having a physical switch to interrupt the hot neutralizes (pun intended) this risk (assuming you are actually trained to turn the switch off when not in use).
When you insert a plug into 115VAC you can sometimes hear the arcing when the hot (active) and neutral pins connect. When you insert a plug into 240VAC you will hear the arcing. Do this enough time and you will even see scorch marks from the arcing.

Apologies, Chris for the OT post.

No problem.
I actually have a switched outlet in each bedroom.
It’s where they think you may put a lamp like on a night stand.
There is a red wire that goes to the outlet that is switched
They share neutral then the hot is split.
Took me a minute to figure out I hat to clip the hot terminals strip on the new outlet to make it work right.

#12019 46 days ago
Quoted from DumbAss:

You will probably feel 115VAC if you touch it (I don't have any personal experience). 240VAC will probably kill you. Having a physical switch to interrupt the hot neutralizes (pun intended) this risk (assuming you are actually trained to turn the switch off when not in use).
.

This is probably the main reason. I've been hit with 120v more times than I'd like to admit. 120v can be lethal, but unlikely. It's still unpleasant. I got hit with 277v once and it was no joke. I probably should have gone to the hospital, I was messed up for a few hours. Luckily I only brushed it. Someone left an open live cable in the ceiling and I hit it while raising a scissor lift. I imagine 240v isn't much different than 270v. I'm not sure what 50hz vs 60hz means as far as pain or lethality.

My father claims he was hung up on a pinball machine once in the 60's or 70's and someone had to knock him off it. It was probably a bad ground and the story got exaggerated after every year and every beer.

Chris, I imagine you must have been whacked a handful of times plugging in some of these basket case games with hack wiring. Any good stories?

#12020 46 days ago
Quoted from Shredso:

This is probably the main reason. I've been hit with 120v more times than I'd like to admit. 120v can be lethal, but unlikely. It's still unpleasant. I got hit with 277v once and it was no joke. I probably should have gone to the hospital, I was messed up for a few hours. Luckily I only brushed it. Someone left an open live cable in the ceiling and I hit it while raising a scissor lift. I imagine 240v isn't much different than 270v. I'm not sure what 50hz vs 60hz means as far as pain or lethality.
My father claims he was hung up on a pinball machine once in the 60's or 70's and someone had to knock him off it. It was probably a bad ground and the story got exaggerated after every year and every beer.
Chris, I imagine you must have been whacked a handful of times plugging in some of these basket case games with hack wiring. Any good stories?

Oh yeah. I don’t get hit very often if ever anymore. Too cautious. As a matter of fact I flick almost everything before I touch it and hate even a static electric shock as a a byproduct.
The worst time ever was when I quickly reached under a Data East transformer to grab a screw I dropped.
Not sure of the voltage I touched or how it even happened but it sucked me in like a magnet and my heart definitely felt almost out of rhythm for a few hours. This shit is no joke you have to be careful.
You can do something without caution regularly and get a false sense of “it’s ok” then get caught wrong just once for a reality check.

#12021 45 days ago

Just use what I use for your outlets. Picture attached below.

They come in a 5 pack for $25. You use the remote to turn each of them on and off. You assign each outlet to a button on the remote. That way you're only turning the one you want on and off and not them all. You can also assign multiple plugs to 1 remote button so those will activate at the same time.

I use them for all my indoor & outdoor Christmas lights. Sure beats having to go outside to turn things on and off in the freezing cold or having to use those pain in the butt timers.

For my entire Christmas display I use 1 remote (I label the back of the remotes. Pic added below) and 5 different outlet controler plugs.

With them, I can turn on the indoor Christmas tree (one), The Lionel under the tree (two), all the animated carolers in our Christmas caroler village (four, labelled "Dolls") and all the lighted and animated Hallmark ornaments on our fireplace mantle (four) for our inside stuff. Then, 1 plug works all the decorations outside. It's so easy and convenient.

Also, I use one in my GnR LE to turn on and off all the things I have plugged into an outlet strip that utilizes the service outlet plug.

I also use them for each of my subwoofers underneath my pins as well. It's so simple to turn on and off with the remote without having to crawl under the machine to switch them on and off manually.

So these may be an excellent choice for plug safety and remote on/off capabilities for some of you.

Back on topic...

That Pinball Magic is drool worthy Chris. Heck of a job! And I love the black legs with the purple painted bolt heads. That really pops and makes for an awesome contast.

The playfields are so beautiful and deep, that the lights reflecting off them look like they're melting. LOVE IT!

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#12022 45 days ago

The comments about getting hit from electricity literally make me shake. I can totally sympathize with you guys and it's definitely no fun.

As a professional painter and wallpaperer my whole life, I have trimmed around thousands of electrical outlets and switches of all kinds, types, shapes and sizes. You don't turn off the electricity when doing this. I've hit them with the razor blade trimming the paper in around them and got zapped more times than I can count. Easily over 50 times. Each time is a truly awful feeling that I can't even explain properly, but vividly recall the way it feels.

There were a few times we got zapped while stripping wallpaper off walls too.

While wetting the walls with a sprayer to strip off the wallpaper, the entire wall became electrified! You touched the wet wall and got zapped! Turns out, there were some exposed wires inside the wall because some mice had chewed through the cloth material. Yes, these were old houses with the old cloth type wire you'd find in an EM pin. The live wires became exposed and were touching the back side of the plaster and lit the wall up right through the plaster when we wet it. Insane!

Then, when I was in my early 20s, I was replacing the heater element in my electric dryer and forgot to unplug it after testing various things in it. OMW! I touched the heater element electrode and got hit so hard with a jolt of electricity, it literally made me lose my breath. I was panting after it had finally let me go and was literally trembling inside. It held me there that long. That was no joke. Also gave new meaning to the lyrics in Bobby Borris Pickets Monster Mash song when he sings, "to get a jolt, from my electrode"

#BadMemories Lol

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#12023 45 days ago
Quoted from Pinfidel:

The comments about getting hit from electricity literally make me shake. I can totally sympathize with you guys and it's definitely no fun.
As a professional painter and wallpaperer my whole life, I have trimmed around thousands of electrical outlets and switches of all kinds, types, shapes and sizes. You don't turn off the electricity when doing this. I've hit them with the razor blade trimming the paper in around them and got zapped more times than I can count. Easily over 50 times. Each time is a truly awful feeling that I can't even explain properly, but vividly recall the way it feels.
There were a few times we got zapped while stripping wallpaper off walls too.
While wetting the walls with a sprayer to strip off the wallpaper, the entire wall became electrified! You touched the wet wall and got zapped! Turns out, there were some exposed wires inside the wall because some mice had chewed through the cloth material. Yes, these were old houses with the old cloth type wire you'd find in an EM pin. The live wires became exposed and were touching the back side of the plaster and lit the wall up right through the plaster when we wet it. Insane!
Then, when I was in my early 20s, I was replacing the heater element in my electric dryer and forgot to unplug it after testing various things in it. OMW! I touched the heater element electrode and got hit so hard with a jolt of electricity, it literally made me lose my breath. I was panting after it had finally let me go and was literally trembling inside. It held me there that long. That was no joke. Also gave new meaning to the lyrics in Bobby Borris Pickets Monster Mash song when he sings, "to get a jolt, from my electrode"
#BadMemories Lol

Thanks. I finally finished that. Rainy cold weather so here are some inside pictures.

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#12024 45 days ago

Someone's going to be happy with that one. Looks amazing

#12025 45 days ago

Looks great, beautiful work as always.

Was a bit sorry to see my one leave here, it's a good game. Can't keep em all though.

#12026 44 days ago

Alright, Pinball Magic looks great, but I want to know who the hell is sending you their backlog of NOS Gottlieb Playfields you have hidden in the corners of your shop. Make yourself known.

#12027 44 days ago
Quoted from radial_head:

Alright, Pinball Magic looks great, but I want to know who the hell is sending you their backlog of NOS Gottlieb Playfields you have hidden in the corners of your shop. Make yourself known.

That is a semi local friend that loves those obscure Gottlieb games and playfields.
I can’t remember all that I have done.

#12028 44 days ago

Came out gorgeous Chris. Pinball eye candy.

#12029 41 days ago

Just about done with The Shadow.

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#12030 41 days ago

Did you configure it so that the gun goes off without Alec actually pulling the trigger?

#12031 41 days ago
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

Did you configure it so that the gun goes off without Alec actually pulling the trigger?

Harsh but funny Mr T

#12032 41 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Harsh but funny Mr T

If I owned this pin, the alternative art by Aurich would be a must. Regardless, as always your work is superb.

#12033 41 days ago
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

If I owned this pin, the alternative art by Aurich would be a must. Regardless, as always your work is superb.

As much as I hate Alec Baldwin and his stupid face it’s always good to see a game restored to factory fresh condition!

#12034 41 days ago
Quoted from radium:

As much as I hate Alec Baldwin and his stupid face it’s always good to see a game restored to factory fresh condition!

I prefer the original translite because it better mirrors the playfield with the copious use of art deco. The Aurich one is nice work in a vacuum, but I just don't think it matches the playfield and cab art (and I'm a Shadow pinball nut - one of my favorite pins).

#12035 40 days ago
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

Did you configure it so that the gun goes off without Alec actually pulling the trigger?

Now that was funny!

#12036 40 days ago
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

If I owned this pin, the alternative art by Aurich would be a must. Regardless, as always your work is superb.

I fail to see why this is so important to the majority of the Shadow owners on here.
It looks decent enough as is. And the game is without a doubt one of the best (if not THE best) B/W game.

#12037 40 days ago
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

If I owned this pin, the alternative art by Aurich would be a must. Regardless, as always your work is superb.

This game actually came in with the alternate translite and speaker panel which I have used on other builds in this thread but I prefer the original if left to my own devices.
It just picks up the other details and artwork throughout the game and it’s what it was meant to be.Art deco style. After doing Shadows for over twenty years it’s what I see when I think of the game.
I found a NOS translite and used a classic arcades speaker panel plastic.

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#12038 40 days ago
Quoted from ViperTim:

I fail to see why this is so important to the majority of the Shadow owners on here.
It looks decent enough as is. And the game is without a doubt one of the best (if not THE best) B/W game.

Because nobody wants to look at that ass clown Alec Baldwin’s face. Just like the Flinstones and ugly Rosie O’Donnell

#12039 40 days ago

Looking forward to seeing exactly how you restore the AFM pins. Anything out of the ordinary planned?

#12040 40 days ago
Quoted from mmr61184:

Because nobody wants to look at that add clown Alec Baldwin’s face. Just like the Flinstones and ugly Rosie O’Donnell

I do.
I prefer the original translite.
Not the most beautiful thing there is but honestly if I didn’t know it as Alec I would never see that it’s actually him.

#12041 40 days ago

This is the part of the build in Shadow that really gets you.
It looks like it is close but there are five wireforms and that entire battlefield still left to work through and place.

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#12042 40 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

This is the part of the build in Shadow that really gets you.
It looks like it is close but there are five wireforms and that entire battlefield still left to work through and place.
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I'm afraid I would have been "gotten" well before this point . . . you're the best!

#12043 40 days ago

Is that an NOS playfield or CPR? Looks very nice. Just some mylar at the magnet drop to protect it or something more? Beautiful game.

#12044 40 days ago
Quoted from Elicash:

Is that an NOS playfield or CPR? Looks very nice. Just some mylar at the magnet drop to protect it or something more? Beautiful game.

It’s CPR. I sanded ,cleared and reworked it a bit but definitely one of their better offerings.
Just Mylar for playfield protection in the Sanctum area. Not a lot of option there without interference to the magnet.

#12045 40 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

It’s CPR. I sanded ,cleared and reworked it a bit but definitely one of their better offerings.
Just Mylar for playfield protection in the Sanctum area. Not a lot of option there without interference to the magnet.

Yeah, CPR did really nice work on this one. I have a gold one just waiting for the right Shadow to come along to put it in. That's how much of a nut I am for that pin. Owned it 3x and now waiting for an opportunity to own it again and give it a complete rehab.

#12046 37 days ago

Working on my AFMs.
Two at a time. One much rougher than the other.
Mini assembly line for the mechs. 4672D12E-F1BE-4F5C-9F55-C0525BDAE6A9 (resized).jpegC09F5920-8449-438C-8926-3E704C8C8F91 (resized).jpegF9B9D28A-EF61-43A6-A4F0-9265928E64A3 (resized).jpeg
This rougher one has a pretty trashed lamp panel.
People are killing me with all this hot glue.

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#12047 37 days ago

Broke that down. It was tedious. E848C033-7113-4A3E-AD0F-E42C79BE160F (resized).jpeg
A few minor cracks from both heat and all that work to remove the hot glued sockets. Cleaned it E2135341-5892-438E-844C-0A14E79EAE72 (resized).jpeg
Fusor the cracks. 8CBE8AC7-9AC3-479F-AB11-2AAE1204E70D (resized).jpeg
Sanded then plastic primed and based in white after the fusor cured overnight. 0793C66C-D069-4E55-8B55-04C52A91B0BB (resized).jpeg6988DF00-202E-41D4-9612-DB57822E9F20 (resized).jpeg
Replaced all the sockets while it dries. 466C657E-3504-4EC9-8174-7A478C82D5C8 (resized).jpeg
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#12048 37 days ago

Prepped primed and guidecoated a pair of AFM cabinets.

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#12049 37 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Broke that down. It was tedious. [quoted image]
A few minor cracks from both heat and all that work to remove the hot glued sockets. Cleaned it [quoted image]
Fusor the cracks. [quoted image]

I feel like I asked this before, but no one is making new/repro lamp panels?

#12050 37 days ago
Quoted from PinMonk:

I feel like I asked this before, but no one is making new/repro lamp panels?

Not that I know of.
There used to be some available about 10 years ago but no more.

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