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Quoted from High_End_Pins:
Depends on the game. Usually I refer to the pictures I have at some point on every build because often things come in assembled wrong or missing something.
I still use old school methods in that regard.
This is my BSD folder. [quoted image]
I have built a pretty good library over the years.
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So much easier than the computer or phone.
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Don't know about anyone else, but I would pay good money for some PDFs covering all those folders......what a treasure!!!

OP
Quoted from High_End_Pins:
Depends on the game. Usually I refer to the pictures I have at some point on every build because often things come in assembled wrong or missing something.
I still use old school methods in that regard.
This is my BSD folder. [quoted image]
I have built a pretty good library over the years.
[quoted image]
So much easier than the computer or phone.
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Wow what a resource. You could probably make some side jingle if you digitized that and charged a fee to access the database, unless of course you want to keep that for competitive advantage.

Quoted from GoodOmens:
...unless of course you want to keep that for competitive advantage.

The competitive advantage is no one does it like HEP! No one that I've seen anyway.

///Rich

Man have I been at it today! Doesn’t look like much but I at least have the blueprint down to copy all these trashed parts configurations. image (resized).jpg

There is a lot of wiring and soldering in my short term future. image (resized).jpg
I mapped out one section.
All sub assemblies will be the way to go. image (resized).jpg
There is no way to make stuff like this image (resized).jpg
Look like this without putting the parts and time in. image (resized).jpg
It just needs it all head to toe. Even the most minor parts are rusty.

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Chris your work is unbelievable. The attention to detail is second to none.

whoa the microswitch rust oxidized to green on all 3 legs? that's pretty hardcore for a WPC :/

Quoted from hisokajp:
whoa the microswitch rust oxidized to green on all 3 legs? that's pretty hardcore for a WPC :/

Yeah. I can’t imagine anyway in the world this game even came to close to working right if at all in this condition.
Can’t remember the for sale ad for it it’s been here a year but I am might look to see how it was represented just out of curiosity.
Some people are just not well informed others are obviously shady. The ad descriptions weighed against the conditions usually help tell the difference.
Makes no difference to me just takes a good bit of extra effort to get where I am going.

I managed to box all the return items for the JD and at least get that stuff situated on a pallet with the game.
Still need to strap it and wrap it but it needs to stay here another week first.
I will be glad to get some space back

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While I was at the warehouse I needed to verify some things for the SOF stencil creation.

Mostly sizing etc.
I hadn’t bothered unpacking the game previously.
My thought pattern is “Why bother? Whatever it is you will just have to deal with or address it when the time comes “ That doesn’t mean I will or can fix or solve any problem it just means I will cross that bridge when I get to it.

Looks ok at a glance. This side anyway.
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Turns out to be pretty rough on the playfield side of things. Considering it’s a System 11 with a full Mylar. It’s only going to get worse before it gets better.Mylar removal and clearcoating of these is a risky and much more time consuming process. Add in the wear and it is major job. 634E316C-7E27-4BEE-B379-650AE3524C6C (resized).jpegE4192745-FE0B-4448-B7F9-7B1299043EE4 (resized).jpegE3307227-80BE-4A86-8EDE-4B357797EFE1 (resized).jpeg

Before I even begin I have had a new cabinet built,bought two sets of cabinet decals one to convert to stencils one to keep in case it doesn’t pan out,cashed in goodwill with Jeff to make the stencils the true cost is unknown at this time, ordered a hardtop in case the Mylar pull goes poorly.

That’s a lot of extra legwork and expense just to set the stage for a lot of work ahead or provide outs for things that might not be within my control.
It’s something that is given little to no thought nor appreciation from the customer base often and these types of projects become highly underfunded very quickly before any work is even done as a result.
Ramps cracked too E84E3AED-C644-413A-AE9E-E2629F48D9C9 (resized).jpeg

Do I see a "Blades of Glory" retheme in your future?

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Making some progress on BSD
It’s an intense mechanical and rewiring project.
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All the switches,lamp and flasher sockets are replaced and rewired. Short protections throughout.

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OP
Quoted from High_End_Pins:
Making some progress on BSD
It’s an intense mechanical and rewiring project.
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All the switches,lamp and flasher sockets are replaced and rewired. Short protections throughout.
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pretty much a scratch build at that point

I rewired my BSD from scratch since there were a ton of hacks and dubious stuff. Took me *many* weeks poking away at it. Your work ethic and productivity are inspiring! I never would have tried it without seeing your work in this thread. And yes, all colour-correct wiring (most of it "hand-striped" using a drill and paint pens).

One thing I did find....my 22AWG wire is just chunkier than what Williams used. Not sure if it's just the insulation or what.

Quoted from dr_nybble:
I rewired my BSD from scratch since there were a ton of hacks and dubious stuff. Took me *many* weeks poking away at it. Your work ethic and productivity are inspiring! I never would have tried it without seeing your work in this thread. And yes, all colour-correct wiring (most of it "hand-striped" using a drill and paint pens).
One thing I did find....my 22AWG wire is just chunkier than what Williams used. Not sure if it's just the insulation or what.

Thanks.
Yes same here my 22awg is also.
On some Williams builds its exact on others the factory wire seems much closer to 24awg at least in terms of total diameter.
When you have that style of wire from the factory there are many more broken and brittle connections.

No tennis today? Nice day for it.

Quoted from Pinballemporium:
No tennis today? Nice day for it.

Not today. Hard to get Marshall out the door some days. Now that he’s out of school we can probably get him out during the week.
I just lifted weights now I am dusting off the me-mover and pumping up the tires for a spin around the neighborhood.
Haven’t used this thing since the fall.

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Hoping I can take some inspiration from the SoF rebuild. My own game is pretty hacked up, maybe this will be the motivation to take it apart and fix it the right way.

Down to the solenoid harness for the BSD.
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I have had to raid my BSD bin along the way to come up with better motors and brackets but they are much better off on this game than in my bin I suppose. 277848D0-234F-4D11-A8E9-03B8118BC007 (resized).jpeg6594F53F-1BDC-4215-BE83-71202B1A1A5D (resized).jpeg
The old stuff is much more suspect looking but serviceable. Better back ups than parts to put to use if given the choice.

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OP
Quoted from High_End_Pins:
Making some progress on BSD

All the switches,lamp and flasher sockets are replaced and rewired. Short protections throughout.
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What size clear tubing are you using for your short protections? That's super clean and very excellent work.

Quoted from jazc4:
What size clear tubing are you using for your short protections? That's super clean and very excellent work.

That is 1/4 OD
I keep a variety of sizes though.

OP
Quoted from High_End_Pins:
That is 1/4 OD
I keep a variety of sizes though.

Ive been using the clear heat shrink quite a lot.

Its pretty good, and no zip ties to hold it on.

https://www.amazon.com/160-pcs-kit%EF%BC%8C-Headphone-Assortment/dp/B07JZ2BCCY/ref=sr_1_2_sspa

I finally made it through the underside rebuild of the BSD.
This was one time consuming mechanical and electrical restoration.

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Quoted from pinballinreno:
Ive been using the clear heat shrink quite a lot.
Its pretty good, and no zip ties to hold it on.
amazon.com link »

How tough is it to get off if you have to redo a connection?

///Rich

OP
Quoted from High_End_Pins:
I finally made it through the underside

What's with the mix of pan head and hex head on that one 4 screw solenoid bracket?

Quoted from PinMonk:
What's with the mix of pan head and hex head on that one 4 screw solenoid bracket?

Good question and observation.
You can’t install the hex heads there because of the screws holding the coil bracket assembly.
There is another like that in the game and there are other games like it.
I think the factory might actually use all pan heads there but for consistency I try to use as few as possible. image (resized).jpgimage (resized).jpg
Without those it’s no problem.

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OP
Quoted from High_End_Pins:
Good question and observation.
You can’t install the hex heads there because of the screws holding the coil bracket assembly.
There is another like that in the game and there are other games like it.
I think the factory might actually use all pan heads there but for consistency I try to use as few as possible. [quoted image][quoted image]
Without those it’s no problem.
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Ah, got it. From those angles it's much more obvious. From that overhead low angle it looked do-able.

Thanks for the pics and explanation.

Quoted from PinMonk:
Ah, got it. From those angles it's much more obvious. From that overhead low angle it looked do-able.
Thanks for the pics and explanation.

Yeah even those pan heads are tight squeeze and hard to drive straight in.

Quoted from RichWolfson:
How tough is it to get off if you have to redo a connection?
///Rich

Easy enough. Ive done it successfully a lot.

Just like regular shrink but clear.

Now back to a better thread.

Sorry.

Got the JD packed up along with all its return parts and accessories.
Took some configuration.10094B9F-A47D-49EC-A804-D70A8B97F233 (resized).jpeg3763F48C-5377-40E0-A935-7419D97362BE (resized).jpeg

Clear instructions 823EF323-5A02-4A89-9138-16900C891F5D (resized).jpeg

Needs to set another week though. BBA274D1-B532-4E51-B491-CD1C4FB6840C (resized).jpeg

New arrivals. I am getting pretty close to full around here.

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Quick preliminary evaluation.
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Has some mods. image (resized).jpg
Typically interior.

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Quick look over the STTNG.

I can already see anew cabinet and playfield in this things future. B4A3C089-EE88-44C2-BB53-18137937BE77 (resized).jpeg4D71E705-810B-4973-B800-0C1E95AA4B83 (resized).jpegC9A315DE-B4AA-4C3D-AEB3-A13EC35E9694 (resized).jpeg

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Playfield underside. image (resized).jpg
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Little details like this tell you a lot about what type of project you have on your hands. image (resized).jpg

For anything you can see figure on a few more you can’t or won’t until you gut it.

Woof!

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STTNG is a gorgeous title. That one has lived a tough life! Anything special planned for its restoration?

Nice touch-up with the white dots, practically undetectable to the naked eye

Do you ever feel like it's Groundhog Day when it comes to completing a pin then starting again with a trashed out one?

Quoted from ToucanF16:
STTNG is a gorgeous title. That one has lived a tough life! Anything special planned for its restoration?

Not yet. It just showed up so it’s just a baby around here

Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:
Do you ever feel like it's Groundhog Day when it comes to completing a pin then starting again with a trashed out one?

Yes I do.
The extra time and effort it takes to work through those type of games is frustrating. It usually becomes more of a personal mission than a service at that point.

I stuck with the BSD playfield rewire/rebuild for about two weeks straight because it just wasn’t going to get done any easier or sooner than if I did not just dedicate myself to it.

With it in a good spot now I can get the cabinet ready for it. image (resized).jpg

I am also looking forward to putting some time in my C37 project
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OP
Quoted from High_End_Pins:
New arrivals. I am getting pretty close to full around here.
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Which begs the question... about how many pinball machines is "full" for you?

Quoted from HeyYouSir:
Which begs the question... about how many pinball machines is "full" for you?

These days twenty five. In the past I was much more ambitious.

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OP
Quoted from High_End_Pins:
These days twenty five. In the past I was much more ambitious.
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I’ll bet a lot of your customers look at that pic to see if they can spot their game!

Old shop, 10 years ago?

Quoted from ToucanF16:
I’ll bet a lot of your customers look at that pic to see if they can spot their game!

All those are long gone these days. Well except for that SC and a prototype FH.

Quoted from Pinballemporium:
Old shop, 10 years ago?

I call that my mid shop. Not the first one but the one I kept from 2013-2017.
That was a really nice shop but the parking lot was all gravel and there was no trash service. Once they started the by pass the traffic got brutal so I couldn’t wait to move.

Catching the BSD cabinet up with the playfield now.
Cabinet I decaled. FAF06B85-B532-49B2-9210-93CC215F81DF (resized).jpeg

Edges shaved. FD6FAE01-1B16-48F7-B3E6-4F75E2669A3B (resized).jpeg
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Then finished.

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I am ready to tackle the C37 cabinet build up.
Braided because I like to ground everything on EMs.
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Plates and protectors in place.
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Set up side by side to make all the holes needed for brackets etc.

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Incredible, how did you acquire the skills to do this? So jealous of folks like you with the ability to create amazing things

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Quoted from High_End_Pins:
Catching the BSD cabinet up with the playfield now.
Cabinet I decaled. [quoted image]
Edges shaved. [quoted image]
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Then finished.
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What exactly do you do when you shave the edges?

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