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HEP This Week 2-24-2020


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“EBD Trim legs will be black regardless ”

  • Stainless/Factory 35 votes
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  • Blacked out 54 votes
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  • Painted Gold matched to cabinet 24 votes
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#851 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Waiting out the last bit of sunlight on this side.
Close as I come to a Halloween costume these days.
Dressed up as an old guy drinking beer.
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Nailed it!

#852 1 year ago
Quoted from jaytrem:

If you do it I would suggest always sliding in some poster paper when raising and lowering. Been doing that with my rct since I put in the art blades and my Comet since it seems to have some scraping issues in the past.

Im using theses in my Houdini that only has 3/32" clearance between the PF and the side art.

https://www.pinballlife.com/interior-cabinet-protector-blade-set.html

I use them on all my games now with perfect results.

#853 1 year ago

TAF New cabinet is decaled inside and out.
Edges will be finished later.

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#854 1 year ago

Head is gutted.
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#855 1 year ago

Lamp panel is reworked. CF8A994C-405F-41D3-BF6E-7C6158618E85 (resized).jpeg

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Refinished metal polished etc. 66B45152-14C1-488E-BF01-199B19B544D4 (resized).jpeg
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#856 1 year ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Im using theses in my Houdini that only has 3/32" clearance between the PF and the side art.
https://www.pinballlife.com/interior-cabinet-protector-blade-set.html
I use them on all my games now with perfect results.

I was going to post that link. I use them too and they are great!

#857 1 year ago

Boards are worked through.
The ones I have pre-serviced swaps for are set aside. B7F40140-E02F-4045-8F3A-D1E155DFD94C (resized).jpeg

The ones I don’t I work through if it is within my skill set.
This extra Flipper board is so I can handle easily enough.It May work fine but looks rough so I will rework that. 9D16A3B5-11DD-47E8-8701-B42A7643779E (resized).jpeg
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New cleaner bridge rectifier install.
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#858 1 year ago

Next will be working the playfield toward being a bit lighter and easier to. Flip upside down. image (resized).jpg

First thing will be the bookcase assembly.
Looks interesting.

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#859 1 year ago

Spare nickel plated bookcase bracket. 2F0B6E61-8BFA-4D41-9DF4-6E9660B96256 (resized).jpeg

Torndown. 258697F6-4CAA-406D-823C-EEB09D36E480 (resized).jpeg

Bracket rebuilt
Motor rewired with thicker gauge 17DB55BD-D38D-4808-8324-AA91018F0D93 (resized).jpeg

New switches and harness. 8B2AB824-43C5-4C78-A4FC-3B5399EC95FF (resized).jpeg
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Transmitter optos replaced they are the most common failure point. BA9F8885-D920-4AC1-9F45-9CDA16EA71FC (resized).jpeg
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Bookcase will be left at that stage for now as I await a new base and decal.

#860 1 year ago

Thing hand rebuild. A4C075B1-8664-4B63-8438-8437237CEC1C (resized).jpeg
Fragile wires,tape the normal stuff. 4D317988-9DF8-4361-8478-56B5745F61A3 (resized).jpeg
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Motor and gearbox cleaned. 8BB06462-9538-41C0-9BB1-1D9251279F6C (resized).jpeg

Magnet coil rewired with color correct wire 15E91486-BD7B-4DD2-8BA6-DF4DDAB92BB0 (resized).jpeg
Motor rewired thicker gauge etc. D7C302E7-04FB-4B86-BB65-9B78D2E7ED62 (resized).jpeg

Rebuilt with protection.
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#861 1 year ago

Solenoid harness removed
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All female plugs were installed during removal.
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There is still some work needed on the harness that I will catch after I clean it.

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#862 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Yeah the thought of that and no proper silverball target is what haunts me this Halloween.

You could drill a hole in a real pinball, then remove a slice to make a life time target face.
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#863 1 year ago
Quoted from vid1900:

You could drill a hole in a real pinball, then remove a slice to make a life time target face.
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Thought about doing something like that.
Could probably take the target face and a real ball to a machine shop and have it done nice and clean.

Tommy left today.
Guy was floored by it didn’t even notice or say a word about the target so I guess at the very least I have some time.

#864 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Thought about doing something like that.
Could probably take the target face and a real ball to a machine shop and have it done nice and clean.

Get a bunch made.

If people are paying $50 for a plastic one that will chip in a few days, everyone would order a real metal one.

Would look great on SBM too

#865 1 year ago

Mid day break

Let the solenoid harness soak. It is really dirty!
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Quick workout in the very same room. Mixture of strength and conditioning today. When you are on the assault bike you can’t wait to get off when you are doing the slam ball you can’t wait to get back on the damn bike 691BBF18-58A5-4F28-AA7B-725B36F68960 (resized).jpeg
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Lunch.
Still working through my last shipment of king salmon.
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Latest beer shipment has arrived.
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#866 1 year ago

Back to work.
TAF cabinet edges finished.
Will paint them next.

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#867 1 year ago

Cabinet edges finished.

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#868 1 year ago

Solenoid harness is done. image (resized).jpg

Now I will work through some of the removed coil assemblies.
These are rough.
Zip tied together
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Missing screws.
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Heavy corrosion.
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That’s just the thing eject coil

Faded or wiped out wrappers. image (resized).jpg

Duct taped together
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Turned the wrong way.
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Lots of things to improve.

#869 1 year ago

Well, at least we get to watch you build a new TAF from scratch.

#870 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

TAF cabinet edges finished.
Will paint them next.

Painted by hand or what? Looks very clean!!

#871 1 year ago
Quoted from brenna98:

Painted by hand or what? Looks very clean!!

Those were masked and painted with the paint used on the cabinet but an oil based paint pen works well too.

#872 1 year ago

Coils removed so far are done.

Some had the wrong plungers. 17F57E29-0AD9-45FA-83E9-D5B8CA2DAECA (resized).jpeg

On the Cabinet knocker I made an insulator and turned the coil in a better position. Marked the centering and then drilled it 4C109E3D-8491-4B8E-8969-26B2114AFE20 (resized).jpeg

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These are done.

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#873 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Cabinet edges finished.
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Sorry I missed it but how do you finsh the edges?

#874 1 year ago
Quoted from mollyspub:

Sorry I missed it but how do you finsh the edges?

He sands them very carefully and with expertise that only much experience brings.

#875 1 year ago

Chris, I was wondering... do you date each of your pins or just brand with HEP?

#876 1 year ago

Love me some Zebulon. They are one of my favorite breweries in the Asheville area. Also, can't beat Prairie.

Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Mid day break
Let the solenoid harness soak. It is really dirty!
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Quick workout in the very same room. Mixture of strength and conditioning today. When you are on the assault bike you can’t wait to get off when you are doing the slam ball you can’t wait to get back on the damn bike [quoted image]
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Lunch.
Still working through my last shipment of king salmon.
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Latest beer shipment has arrived.
[quoted image]

Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Mid day break
Let the solenoid harness soak. It is really dirty!
[quoted image]
[quoted image]
Quick workout in the very same room. Mixture of strength and conditioning today. When you are on the assault bike you can’t wait to get off when you are doing the slam ball you can’t wait to get back on the damn bike [quoted image]
[quoted image]
Lunch.
Still working through my last shipment of king salmon.
[quoted image]
Latest beer shipment has arrived.
[quoted image]

#877 1 year ago
Quoted from spinal:

Chris, I was wondering... do you date each of your pins or just brand with HEP?

I brand them mostly.
The branding gets moved around a little year to year and some things improved so I can generally tell the year by looking at the restore or pictures.
My communication with the owners helps me keep track of the dates as well.

#878 1 year ago

Jet bumpers are done.
TAF is a pretty time consuming game mechanically.
Nothing overly complex about it but there is just a lot there.
Two motor and gearbox assemblies,three magnets,,three scoops,four flippers and five jet bumpers it means that extra time and materials are needed to really go through everything.

These jets were beat. D91EED3E-E98F-4BFB-BCCA-E91D922D84F4 (resized).jpeg

All armatures were broken. 0362B081-AA35-437F-B45C-80FE933F18AE (resized).jpegCD8C8F65-3AD2-4ECC-8212-1FFE1399D550 (resized).jpeg

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Rebuilt. New coils were needed as well a few were seized. All wired color correct.

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#879 1 year ago

Any place to find the blue pad the knocker hits?

I can't find it anywhere and need a replacement. Also, how do you affix that pad?

#880 1 year ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

Any place to find the blue pad the knocker hits?
I can't find it anywhere and need a replacement. Also, how do you affix that pad?

https://www.pinballlife.com/1-square-blue-rubber-pad-with-adhesive-backing.html

#881 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

I brand them mostly.
The branding gets moved around a little year to year and some things improved so I can generally tell the year by looking at the restore or pictures.
My communication with the owners helps me keep track of the dates as well.

As an artist, dating might be something to consider because there are an increasingly number of them in the market and this makes it easier for collectors to track. Also, your techniques have surely changed over the years and this would help collectors guage differences. Just a thought out of respect for your work.

#882 1 year ago

Flippers are next. Looks like newer coils so that is a plus
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Rust and corrosion
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Newly built up assemblies using just a couple things from the old.
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Now finished on plugs

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#883 1 year ago

Getting there on the underside.
One or two coils left then I can start working the lamp harness and boards off there.

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#884 1 year ago

I am going to start gearing up for one of the upcoming EBD builds by fitting and prepping the cabinet.
These were built locally and look great.

I am really nervous when I give one of these guys this era cabinet.
The heads and wedged necks are a nightmare.
So far the failure rate has been higher than the successs rate so I ask for a few things on the first run.

First. Do not install the playfield runners.
Just cut them and I will place them. image (resized).jpg

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The reason for that leads to the next request. I want a thicker floor. image (resized).jpg

With the floor being thicker if they were to measure and place the playfield runners off the floor it would then be a quarter inch to high which could lead to all kinds of problems you won’t see or realize until you place the playfield,lockbar or glass.

#885 1 year ago

Next is the head.
I have had nothing but nightmares having these built with the exception of my old local cabinet builder that retired a couple years ago.
These heads are more complex than they seem.
The reason is that the frame is both built to be cosmetic and functional at the same time.

The position of the lock hole is crucial. It can be the difference in the locking arm fitting and working or not. image (resized).jpg

Another crucial detail is the proper gap for the backglass.a little too big is ok but too tight is a disaster.
The lower trim is just a keeper and resting point.
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The upper is what is least forgiving. It impacts the way you can lift the glass in and out and also how the lock arm operates.
For this reason on a first time trial I also ask it to be made but not attached.

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#886 1 year ago

First the lock and arm are placed and traced.

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#887 1 year ago

Next a correct glass is placed and locked. image (resized).jpg
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Then I place the trim piece to verify. That trim peice fits well will probably benefit from a little finesse sanding and shaping but everything fits and works so that is a relief.

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#888 1 year ago

Trim reveal is placed on the upper head. image (resized).jpg

Due to the potential of cracking it it is screwed in from the top. And then the screw holes are filled.

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#889 1 year ago

Filler is finished. The head is ready to prime and the backglass is double checked prior to.
Fits great and the head took almost nothing to prep for primer outside of fitting everything and filling that portion of the build up.

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#890 1 year ago

The newly made lamp panel will be primed at this time as well. image (resized).jpg
The lower is easily prepped needing only a couple nicks filled. Will mask that next.

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#891 1 year ago

Cabinet,head and two lamp panels are primed
These look phenomenal even in primer
Sharp corners.
All holes located
Correct notches for the coin door frame.
Natural and correct looking reveal for the upper backbox.

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#892 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Will also be using the Pinsound board by request. It will be the third time I do that and have to admit the last two times I found it buggy. Hopefully this one goes better.

If by buggy you are referring to random delayed audio cues, they are caused by the read speed of the usb flash drive in use. The ones the boards come with are fine for maybe some stock audio samples; but, the larger and higher quality custom cues are usually much bigger in size and that causes the random delays as the board is calling up the file.

If you encounter this pick up a higher speed usb 3.0 drive.

I swapped my games over to these - amazon.com link »
They are the fastest on the market and my random delays are virtually all eliminated in even the largest custom mixes.

The very occasional sound delay is defiantly worth it for the ability to massively supercharge the audio. For any film or music based pin using the original sounds makes a world of difference. The mix I made for SWDE makes that machine really seem modern.

By the way, I’ve often wondered if for some of the more common games you’ve restored (AF, MM, AFM, etc) do you think you could do most of the work from memory if you lost your pics and notes.

#893 1 year ago
Quoted from jedimastermatt:

If by buggy you are referring to random delayed audio cues, they are caused by the read speed of the usb flash drive in use. The ones the boards come with are fine for maybe some stock audio samples; but, the larger and higher quality custom cues are usually much bigger in size and that causes the random delays as the board is calling up the file.
If you encounter this pick up a higher speed usb 3.0 drive.
I swapped my games over to these - amazon.com link »
They are the fastest on the market and my random delays are virtually all eliminated in even the largest custom mixes.
The very occasional sound delay is defiantly worth it for the ability to massively supercharge the audio. For any film or music based pin using the original sounds makes a world of difference. The mix I made for SWDE makes that machine really seem modern.
By the way, I’ve often wondered if for some of the more common games you’ve restored (AF, MM, AFM, etc) do you think you could do most of the work from memory if you lost your pics and notes.

Thanks I will try that. Is the 128 version adequate?

#894 1 year ago
Quoted from jedimastermatt:

If by buggy you are referring to random delayed audio cues, they are caused by the read speed of the usb flash drive in use. The ones the boards come with are fine for maybe some stock audio samples; but, the larger and higher quality custom cues are usually much bigger in size and that causes the random delays as the board is calling up the file.
If you encounter this pick up a higher speed usb 3.0 drive.
I swapped my games over to these - amazon.com link »
They are the fastest on the market and my random delays are virtually all eliminated in even the largest custom mixes.
The very occasional sound delay is defiantly worth it for the ability to massively supercharge the audio. For any film or music based pin using the original sounds makes a world of difference. The mix I made for SWDE makes that machine really seem modern.
By the way, I’ve often wondered if for some of the more common games you’ve restored (AF, MM, AFM, etc) do you think you could do most of the work from memory if you lost your pics and notes.

On the build off memory.
Yes without a doubt and happens often on the TZ,IJ,TAF etc builds. Rarely need to reference those. It is the one and two or three if’s that I find myself combining pictures and manuals to work through.

#895 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Thanks I will try that. Is the 128 version adequate?

It should be plenty. It really just depends on the size of the mix and the number of them you want per game.

#896 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Mid day break
Let the solenoid harness soak. It is really dirty!

Chris,

What do you soak the harness in to clean it? I’m amazed that doesn’t damage the wiring.

#897 1 year ago
Quoted from Jerol:

Chris,
What do you soak the harness in to clean it? I’m amazed that doesn’t damage the wiring.

Soaks in a non corrosive orange based cleaner.
The key is that it must be non corrosive and it must be blown dry after rinsing.

#898 1 year ago

Ready to get the playfield assembly out of the TAF cabinet F78903ED-CD8E-4F2E-88D2-EAB59D4418E0 (resized).jpeg

Apron is removed it has damaged art and surface rust. 6978F510-E95E-4F57-8CCF-ED07BCE6DA12 (resized).jpeg
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Apron will need to be painted and decaled. There is the possibility of a new apron coming out but it won’t be soon enough for this project so it is cleaned and sanded for repaint.

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#899 1 year ago

This game has some of the worst metal conditions
Lots of rust and corrosion are present on every possible part
It makes for a more challenging project because a tumbler won’t touch this issues and nickel plating every single piece of hardware is not practical because of threading and keeping up with it all through the process.

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#900 1 year ago

I will be able to exchange most of it and will replace all the screws.

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