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“EBD Trim legs will be black regardless ”

  • Stainless/Factory 35 votes
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  • Blacked out 54 votes
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  • Painted Gold matched to cabinet 24 votes
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#7101 3 years ago

Thank you Chris. Secondary question. I notice a lot of the fine sandpapers don't have holes. I would think that would interfere with dust collection and messing up the fine grit of the sandpaper.

Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Woodcraft for the Festool sandpaper
Local automotive paint supplier for the 3M papers.
The Festool paper is good for all the rough grits up to 400
From 400 on 3M is preferred.

#7102 3 years ago
Quoted from epeabs:

Thank you Chris. Secondary question. I notice a lot of the fine sandpapers don't have holes. I would think that would interfere with dust collection and messing up the fine grit of the sandpaper.

I turn the dust collection off when using those.
When it comes to final grits and fine work I do not like holes in the paper I prefer truly solid and flat papers. Holes leave gaps for uneven sanding and debris that could scratch a more finesse based finish.
On the lower grits(600 or less) holes and dust collection are more desire and needed.

#7103 3 years ago

I appreciate the detailed explanation. Thank you again as always.

#7104 3 years ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

...Fast forward a couple weeks ago while still working on the project I see they released more HS playfields so out of my own pocket I grabbed a better one. [quoted image]
No insert issues but an enormous amount of material has been reclaimed back into the natural wood fibers. [quoted image]

I admire that you sourced a better PF. Will you be able to repurpose the PF with bad green inserts?

#7105 3 years ago
Quoted from ToucanF16:

I admire that you sourced a better PF. Will you be able to repurpose the PF with bad green inserts?

Not sure yet I really just accumulate what I need to best work through a job then figure things out later.

#7106 3 years ago

Got all my TAF parts back from powder coating. BF311C7B-0EA5-4E9A-BCF9-CE3382A83573 (resized).jpegBF311C7B-0EA5-4E9A-BCF9-CE3382A83573 (resized).jpeg
Ready to build the new ramps now. Will make all new wiring harnesses for those. 0630F91F-8864-43D5-9D08-D68166B07ADB (resized).jpeg0630F91F-8864-43D5-9D08-D68166B07ADB (resized).jpeg
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These are rebuilt with new switches and both were missing the ball trap bracket. New ones were sourced and powder coated

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#7107 3 years ago

TAF JS playfield is sanded and polished.
Now being assembled.

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#7108 3 years ago

There's a Select-a-Card on ebay. Just in case you want to do another.

#7109 3 years ago

TAF JS playfield is ready to flip and rebuild underneath.

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#7110 3 years ago

Underside is building up quickly because of all the effort put in upfront during teardown.

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#7111 3 years ago

was black a request from customer? or is this your artistic choice? this TAF looks really cool in black

#7112 3 years ago

I think the powdercoating on the ball guides looks great and the black really works for TAF. Can't wait to see how it all comes together!

#7113 3 years ago
Quoted from Dragon:

was black a request from customer? or is this your artistic choice? this TAF looks really cool in black

That is an artistic choice I make sometimes out of need.
On these TAFs one in particular the ballguides were trashed.
I was able to straighten them but once stainless is gouged it is impossible to get it back to perfect.
The shapes and inability to really get into tight spaces made powder the best choice to get everything looking nice again.
Black was the color of choice for these.

#7114 3 years ago

How does the power-coating on the ball rails hold up over time?

I would be afraid that it would start wearing off after some number of plays. Or do you assume that these "showpiece" machines will not get that much actual play?

#7115 3 years ago

I'm curious how they'll hold up as well. Last year at TPF someone had a wireform ramp on a game that was powder coated.. by the end there was a TON of powder coat that had chipped off and there was powder coat dust everywhere. I like the look it can give occasionally but now am hesitant to do it to my machines after seeing that.

#7116 3 years ago
Quoted from mbeardsley:

How does the power-coating on the ball rails hold up over time?
I would be afraid that it would start wearing off after some number of plays. Or do you assume that these "showpiece" machines will not get that much actual play?

Holds up great or else I wouldn’t even consider it.
I can’t assume they will get played or not played any certain amount of time because that is more of an individual thing.
Some play them to death others barely turn them on.
The key is it needs to be quality powder coating with proper prep. I also stick with black single stage finish’s because it is simple,covers well and easily maintained. The more complex colors require extra coatings and have more problems typically.

I have had legs done poorly that chipped the minute I bolted them on.
I have also had wireforms done that I later had to tweak with a hammer without a issue.You couldn’t chip if you tried.
If something is going to be problematic I will spot it during the build.

#7117 3 years ago
Quoted from pinball_ric:

I'm curious how they'll hold up as well. Last year at TPF someone had a wireform ramp on a game that was powder coated.. by the end there was a TON of powder coat that had chipped off and there was powder coat dust everywhere. I like the look it can give occasionally but now am hesitant to do it to my machines after seeing that.

Sounds like a bad powdercoating job. For ball guides, powdercoating holds up great. Less dust than grained stainless. Never done wireforms though. For the least amount of dust polish the guides to a mirror finish. AMAZINGLY durable, and they look great.

#7118 3 years ago

TAF JS underside is evolving
All new lamp sockets.
All of those are being wire color correct onto sub harnesses.

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#7119 3 years ago

I notice you are back to using the more traditional style lamp with the long metal leads in the pop bumpers. Did you find a supplier with better quality? Are you still reinforicing them with solder before install?

#7120 3 years ago
Quoted from Elicash:

I notice you are back to using the more traditional style lamp with the long metal leads in the pop bumpers. Did you find a supplier with better quality? Are you still reinforicing them with solder before install?

Yeah I still use those on some builds when I need a low profile socket depending on what lighting and cap I have in mind.
Not my preferred socket right now though because while they do seem to be improved a little I still don’t trust them without reinforcing.

#7121 3 years ago

I like how you color coordinate the pop bumper bodies with the caps.

LTG : )

#7122 3 years ago
Quoted from LTG:

I like how you color coordinate the pop bumper bodies with the caps.
LTG : )

I bet his socks match his underwear.

#7123 3 years ago

Someone told me I had odd socks on the other day. I said bullshit mate, and i have another pair the same at home to prove it.

#7124 3 years ago

I am tired of seeing pictures of pinballs. Let’s see some pictures on the elliptical bike or even better the YZ. I know you have some kind of new toy down there. What about the freestyle bike, didn’t I see an ole school Haro down there? Let’s build a quarter pipe!

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#7125 3 years ago
Quoted from Pinballemporium:

I am tired of seeing pictures of pinballs. Let’s see some pictures on the elliptical bike or even better the YZ. I know you have some kind of new toy down there. What about the freestyle bike, didn’t I see an ole school Haro down there? Let’s build a quarter pipe!

Yes. This is my cruising bike.
When I ride it I feel like I am 14 heading to the 7-11
The 24 inch Skyways are cool but are sketchy as hell when it comes to braking which is why it’s just a cruiser. Laid back seat post Billet hubs. Lineage cranks
I built a 20 inch from the ground up but ended up giving it away to a kid in need.
Looking at it up on a shelf seemed like a waste.

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#7126 3 years ago

Another Monday still looking at two TAFs.
Between these the HS and the woodrail the last couple months have not been very productive nor profitable .
I am getting close to closing the TAFs out so that will open up some floor space for some new projects.
The TAF JS playfield is fully wired now image (resized).jpgimage (resized).jpg
I am going to finish wiring the cabinet now and get the playfield in there.
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One thing that was requested was to convert the flipper button leaf switches to the Opto board version. image (resized).jpgimage (resized).jpg

Not too complicated I will make a sub harness add 12volts and this will make it interchangeable with the original set up.

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#7128 3 years ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

One thing that was requested was to convert the flipper button leaf switches to the Opto board version.

Interesting idea to use spring steel to make the plastic interruptors less limp. Are those available somewhere or do they have to be custom cut?

#7129 3 years ago
Quoted from Gornkleschnitzer:

Interesting idea to use spring steel to make the plastic interruptors less limp. Are those available somewhere or do they have to be custom cut?

These were factory on the later games somewhere around the WPC 95s I believe.

#7130 3 years ago

Tapped the 12volts 623A71FB-F26F-4BC4-B38A-B8B4F14A9917 (resized).jpeg623A71FB-F26F-4BC4-B38A-B8B4F14A9917 (resized).jpeg
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Installed a shorter prop rod and made a catch for it that keeps it tight to the cabinet.
On TAF the prop rod really gets in the way and is often bent up the thing kick out scoop. They must have sensed the problem at some point because TAF does use thinner side set blocks coming in at 1/2 an inch compared to the usual 3/4.
Rather than just omitting it I proofread it with other general pinball parts.

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#7131 3 years ago

The cabinet is now neatly wired and ready for the playfield CFD30E9F-6141-4C7A-BBE5-238BD0413A3B (resized).jpegCFD30E9F-6141-4C7A-BBE5-238BD0413A3B (resized).jpeg

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#7132 3 years ago

The playfield is lamp tested first the feature7FAD6FC1-3446-4B77-B43E-043E431C26B2 (resized).jpeg7FAD6FC1-3446-4B77-B43E-043E431C26B2 (resized).jpeg
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I blacked out the bumper lightning as well as possible so it wouldn’t have those brite white circles coming through the caps

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#7133 3 years ago

Playfield is now in the cabinet.

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#7134 3 years ago

I think you would like this. I think I got it at Costco. Keep your (or your wife’s) eye out for it!

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#7135 3 years ago
Quoted from pinheadpierre:

I think you would like this Big Bad Baptist Imperial Stout.

And all this time we thought John the Baptist only used water.
No wonder so many people were willing to be baptized!

#7136 3 years ago

TAF JS is all done.
Might make it outside for pictures if it stops raining.

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#7137 3 years ago
Quoted from pinheadpierre:

I think you would like this. I think I got it at Costco. Keep your (or your wife’s) eye out for it!
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Yes I would. We get the regular version and a few variants but not the CA edition.

#7138 3 years ago

Another great job in the books!!

#7139 3 years ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

TAF JS is all done.
Might make it outside for pictures if it stops raining. [quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Nice work, That's a beautiful game. I really like the blacked out look.

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#7140 3 years ago

Managed to get the TAF JS outside for final pictures in between rain showers.
In my haste to do that I didn't have a lot of time to detail it prior to so there might be a smudge or touch up left off but nothing I noticed off hand.

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#7141 3 years ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

In my haste to do that I didn't have a lot of time to detail it prior to so there might be a smudge or touch up left off....

You slacker.

#7142 3 years ago

Playfield TAF JS

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#7143 3 years ago

TAF JS inside
Does anyone know why the pictures have been loading upside down lately and if there is a fix?
Almost makes it too much trouble to put anything up.

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#7144 3 years ago

I think there was an update to the site. Its worse trying to post pictures from a phone.

That is probably the most beautiful AF I have seen. It's gorgeous Chris. Black trim on so many machines looks incredible. Especially on this one with the black ramps.

#7145 3 years ago

It is beautiful. I like the color choices for the flasher domes. I really appreciate the photos with them plugged in and on as they’re intended to be. I understand the lights may obscure some of the details in the photos when on.

Just wondering, do the neighbors ever get curious and wander over to inspect your work? Perhaps pre-COVID.

#7146 3 years ago

Neighbors have to be envious!

#7147 3 years ago
Quoted from ToucanF16:

Neighbors have to be envious!

It’s far more likely that neighbors don’t give a rip. Sadly.

#7148 3 years ago

I have to admit the black on this looks very good

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#7149 3 years ago
Quoted from Alattig:

It is beautiful. I like the color choices for the flasher domes. I really appreciate the photos with them plugged in and on as they’re intended to be. I understand the lights may obscure some of the details in the photos when on.
Just wondering, do the neighbors ever get curious and wander over to inspect your work? Perhaps pre-COVID.

Thanks.
The neighbors are pretty much used to it.
I only have one directly beside me and when I was taking pictures yesterday he yelled from the mailbox asking “Is that the one with the little pinball in it?!”
After a couple seconds we determined he was talking about Munsters and luckily we moved on.
Can be painful and uncomfortable at times.
Not that I can’t understand the curiosity but it usually comes down to confusion or somehow or another becomes about video games or other things not really related.
Other times it’s “I know someone that does the exact same thing”
The best interaction I had was a few years ago when I was finishing up Krull we were having some concrete work done.
The owner of the concrete company comes in takes a look at Krull and says “I remember playing that game many a time at the bowling alley”
I learned just to go along with it to hurry the interaction along. No point in going into details.
They are not pinball people they won’t understand.

#7150 3 years ago

Beautiful work once again Chris.

And who doesn’t have memories of playing Krull? They were everywhere when I was a kid.

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