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HEP This Week 7-6-2020


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“EBD Trim legs will be black regardless ”

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#6951 52 days ago
Quoted from calfdemon:

I can appreciate this. Unfortunately, I do the same thing to all of the screws on my lightswitch and power outlet covers in my house. It drives me crazy if they are not lined up. Stupid little thing... lol

and i'm the opposite, I have to have them all different, same with my playfield screws

#6952 52 days ago
Quoted from BorgDog:

and i'm the opposite, I have to have them all different, same with my playfield screws

I've heard that you bring screwdrivers with you to people's homes and randomly turn the screw heads to make them point in all different directions as well
so, just stay over there on the west coast buddy!

#6953 52 days ago

Personally, I really appreciate it. If you were to visit my house you would notice that on every single light switch and outlet that all screws are oriented vertically. I really didn't know there was any other way to do it.

#6954 52 days ago

My wife just painted a couple rooms. I notice in the first one she did the screws are now all in various angles. In the one she just finished they're now all horizontal. Makes you wonder at what point did she start thinking "I should make these all horizontal".

#6955 52 days ago
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

Personally, I really appreciate it. If you were to visit my house you would notice that on every single light switch and outlet that all screws are oriented vertically. I really didn't know there was any other way to do it.

This is how we do it in Australia, look ma', no screws.

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#6956 52 days ago

I didn't hear anyone mention the most important part. You have the make the screws on the light switches all vertical so the dust slides out and doesn't collect...

#6957 52 days ago

Light and receptacle plates with screws? Please! You need screwless Decora plates. This is the hot lick.

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#6958 52 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

so I can free up a dolly.

Chris: let me help you with that - just get that High Speed cabinet out of the way - it's taking up precious Adams Family space...you can have it shipped to me at...

#6959 52 days ago
Quoted from xeneize:

Chris: let me help you with that - just get that High Speed cabinet out of the way - it's taking up precious Adams Family space...you can have it shipped to me at...

Speaking of the HS I built up a new door for that this morning.

The old door is trashed. E83A049C-738D-40F1-A1A7-0A9A0FDFE973 (resized).jpeg
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I selected a Happ door because it has the same general slot layout and pattern despite the rounded corners 114B7E4E-D973-4358-AE3D-912827821D33 (resized).jpeg

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#6960 52 days ago

New red slots were installed E9DE996D-DA18-40F6-87F9-E17E5A425D97 (resized).jpeg
I made a new harness that has the essentials on the door but not things I don’t find needed in a home environment like the coin lock out. This also eliminates the higher voltages on the door. 4BB14AAC-59EF-4855-98C5-19D683A88B30 (resized).jpeg
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#6961 52 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

New red slots were installed [quoted image]
I made a new harness that has the essentials on the door but not things I don’t find needed in a home environment like the coin lock out. This also eliminates the higher voltages on the door. [quoted image]
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Are you changing out the paper insert so it says the original 25 cents/push to reject instead of the suzo happ inserts?

#6962 52 days ago

I used the same one for my F-14 but with the blue inserts.

#6963 52 days ago

Building up the woodrail underside.
You can’t really get flipper parts so fixing what is there is the only option or finding more used parts. D45F45A0-FE40-4F5D-8A4D-291A3548011D (resized).jpeg
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I blasted them first. 5E0DA9DA-2728-4432-A86F-008CD4DA5361 (resized).jpeg
Then drilled the pivots out and fit these bally drop target pin and clips in. 30D02E48-E626-46BC-AB3A-2C63CA90420E (resized).jpeg
Strategically used some sling shot washers and everything fits and functions nicely plus I have faith in them holding up.
My spring assortment has been really helpful on this build.
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#6964 52 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Speaking of the HS I built up a new door for that this morning.
The old door is trashed. [quoted image]
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I selected a Happ door because it has the same general slot layout and pattern despite the rounded corners [quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

What are you doing with that old door and frame? Selling it?

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#6965 51 days ago

Playfield is back on the woodrail.

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#6966 51 days ago

Please tell me Chris that this is going to be played when it get's home?

I can't remember seeing something as beautiful for years. You've given the world a gift.

#6967 51 days ago

Oh my goodness.

#6968 51 days ago

The woodrail is absolutely gorgeous, and I didn't think I would say that about a pin of that era. But the question is on everyone's minds........What will be the HEP Memorial Day weekend food of choice???? Will it be salmon, lobster, chicken, steaks? and the fixin's, and the beer????? I guess we'll have to wait for the official word. Happy Memorial Day everyone, stay safe.

#6969 51 days ago

Maybe because it is different than what you usually do, maybe it is the history, the art/beauty or just watching how an expert navigates a learning curve, I have really enjoyed watching the wood rail unfold into the beauty it really is. I know you don't post game play videos but you do test them so it would be great to see this one in action if possible when done. (and maybe some time in the future do another one, or pre-war even). Thanks for bringing us along for the ride!

#6970 51 days ago

...and there I thought Ghostbusters had a big flipper gap!!!

Absolutely stunning Chris!

#6971 51 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Playfield is back on the woodrail.
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Interesting to see you using the 555 sockets in the pops. Typically those sockets sit higher then the bayonet ones and, if I am correct, the caps don't have screws so interested in seeing if the caps stay on.

Great job as always Chris! I think the wood grain tool worked out great as it gives a large area, that would otherwise be one solid color, some contrast. Looking forward to the pics when the machine is taken to the "outdoor studio".

#6972 51 days ago
Quoted from meSz:

Interesting to see you using the 555 sockets in the pops. Typically those sockets sit higher then the bayonet ones and, if I am correct, the caps don't have screws so interested in seeing if the caps stay on.

Well if LEDs are going in there, the LEDs will have a shorter bulb height than the original #44/#47 bulb height so it should even out properly.

#6973 51 days ago
Quoted from ReadyPO:

I know you don't post game play videos but you do test them so it would be great to see this one in action if possible when done.

Yeah, this is the first time I've been jonesing for a HEP gameplay video. I've played nice examples of most of the other stuff.

#6974 51 days ago

I'd suggest trying oil board stencil material for painting EM cabinets. Using a rigid stencil is how they were originally done and will give the authentic soft edge look. No technology required you can still hand-cut the stencil!

#6975 51 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Playfield is back on the woodrail.
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Please say no to frosted bulbs in this!

Cointaker retros or similar... singl smd warm temp with clear domes

#6976 51 days ago

Seems counterintuitive but I find that frosted warm LED's reproduce the incandescent glow better than a clear/retro LED. The clear LED itself looks more original, but I'm not a fan of the light throw. There's definitely no perfect substitute.

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#6977 51 days ago
Quoted from yancy:

Seems counterintuitive but I find that frosted warm LED's reproduce the incandescent glow better than a clear/retro LED. The clear LED itself looks more original, but I'm not a fan of the light throw. There's definitely no perfect substitute.

I agree with this. I only use frosted after testing everything out there.
Normal bulbs would be fine but LEDs were requested.
They want little to no maintenance.
Even just changing a bulb can be a pain on these.
There are only for bulbs that actually show Now that it is assembled but even they are under the plastics.

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#6978 51 days ago

Absolutely stunning. You definitely have a gift.

#6979 51 days ago

Is it possible to show a video of that beautiful machine in action!

#6980 50 days ago

One last detail on the woodrail.
When the game came in one of the better parts was the apron. At that time I wanted to get the rest of the game at least on par with that. B3FD7939-39DC-45F4-8B80-71FA7479BBFF (resized).jpeg
When I placed it yesterday I realized it just lacked a certain look everything else now has and it was a bit out of place looking.
I chemical cleaned it and used a razor blade to remove some really stubborn splashes of cola I believe CFAA2358-BBA5-46BF-8652-72DB28A0B908 (resized).jpeg
Did some minor touch ups and matte cleared it. After it dries it should at least look similar in sheen to the playfield and trim as well as just a bit smoother looking/less brushed and lumpy compared to what it was originally.
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#6981 50 days ago

I have a weird translite question. I have a TOM original translite that is in great shape but it has an odd problem that drives me nuts. The translite warps with the slightest change in temperature. I've put LEDs in to reduce heat figuring that may help....I have 8 other pins in the same room and none of the others do this. So I keep taking the thing out removing the plastic channel guides, smooth it out again, put the guides back and it helps temporarily but keeps re-occuring. I know this is a silly problem but was wondering if you had any suggestions that would help.

#6982 50 days ago

I tried to find a in house solution to fill in the blank space of the woodrail apron.
Not wanting to do anything permanent.
I stenciled some vinyl and aged it to make it look in place on the apron.
Just something to fill in the blank there for now.

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#6983 50 days ago

Wow.. That looks like it would have been there from day one. Amazing work!

#6984 50 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

I tried to find a in house solution to fill in the blank space of the woodrail apron.
Not wanting to do anything permanent.
I stenciled some vinyl and aged it to make it look in place on the apron.
Just something to fill in the blank there for now.
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I don't know if you can layer vinyl to make drop shadows, but maybe the logo from the backglass for continuity?
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I made a vector PDF of the red part (no drop shadow or outline) if you want to try that in vinyl.

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#6985 50 days ago

Woodrail is done.

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#6986 50 days ago

Playfield.

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#6987 50 days ago

Beautiful Pin...
Nice piece of history saved ...

#6988 50 days ago

So sexy. I know you said this was a pain in the ass, but I really hope you do more in the future. One of your most interesting projects.

#6989 50 days ago

The world is now a richer place.

#6990 50 days ago

Beautiful.

#6991 50 days ago

Beyond words....

I would love to see a video of the owner's reaction when they see it!!!

#6992 50 days ago
Quoted from vireland:

I don't know if you can layer vinyl to make drop shadows, but maybe the logo from the backglass for continuity?
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I made a vector PDF of the red part (no drop shadow or outline) if you want to try that in vinyl.

That looks really nice too.
I thought about trying to match the backglass lettering but after studying the apron a bit I like the more simple lettering for that because it was more like what was on that apron and the playfield but I only had a few fonts to pick from.
I think originally there is some type writer like printed card that gets stapled on there so this was something in between what is original and what you had in mind.

#6993 50 days ago

True craftsmanship! Is this just a 9-5 for Curtis or is he truly trying to learn the trade from you? Does he realize how fortunate he is to be your grasshopper? Also noticed that you chose not to re-plate the coin mech!?

#6994 50 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

That looks really nice too.
I thought about trying to match the backglass lettering but after studying the apron a bit I like the more simple lettering for that because it was more like what was on that apron and the playfield but I only had a few fonts to pick from.
I think originally there is some type writer like printed card that gets stapled on there so this was something in between what is original and what you had in mind.

AH! So a pricing/replay card went there. Using Helvitica font it's pretty much a direct match, but the only picture I could find of a real SELECT-A-CARD one was so low-res I can't read some of the conditions on the right.

I guessed at the dimensions.

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#6995 50 days ago
Quoted from Enchantress:

True craftsmanship! Is this just a 9-5 for Curtis or is he truly trying to learn the trade from you? Does he realize how fortunate he is to be your grasshopper? Also noticed that you chose not to re-plate the coin mech!?

Thank you.
Curtis works a real job and just helps here and there in his free time.
A lot of what I know or do comes naturally to me. It is really hard to teach. It is almost like a sense or feeling. Not saying that to sound like a puke but just honestly it has never been something I could explain I wish I could teach it because I would have more help and be more productive but it just isn’t like that for some reason.
Often I don’t even have a particular plan when I go into these I just get started and keep going with those senses and feelings until the game looks like what I have in mind or as close as I can come with my skill set and resources.
No plating on the coin mech. I polished it by hand.
The reason I did not have it plated was because I think that plating will make it inoperable because there are some very small grooves that interlock and it would likely thicken and ruin them making the slide action either not work or flake after a few uses.

#6996 49 days ago

Bravo. I've seen every post on this thread and you do unparalleled work, but this is your masterpiece.

#6997 49 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

I have low expectations for the finished appearance of Powdercoating so it isn’t a concern.
If on the rare occasion I get parts back that I can install without touching them that is great but if not I am prepared and willing to get them to a level I want.
Powdercoating is almost like a primer

So the powder coating company is obvious someone you use a lot. When you get work back like that from them, do you tell them your not paying for it? Do they give you a credit since you had to repaint them yourself?

I would like to know as well. If the customer is ultimately paying for the powdercoating process, that what he should recieve.

#6998 49 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Thank you.
A lot of what I know or do comes naturally to me. It is really hard to teach. It is almost like a sense or feeling. Not saying that to sound like a puke but just honestly it has never been something I could explain I wish I could teach it because I would have more help and be more productive but it just isn’t like that for some reason.
Often I don’t even have a particular plan when I go into these I just get started and keep going with those senses and feelings until the game looks like what I have in mind or as close as I can come with my skill set and resources.

Chris, Most people don't understand this from my experience. Like you I am a "hands on guy" and a "Jack of all trades" and have basically been that way my entire life. My dad was a mechanic & my grandfather was a farmer so I grew up working with tools from the time I started walking and was always trying to learn all I could from people who worked with their hands.

I have two fantastic kids - both boys - and neither of them has a clue how to do anything mechanical. Over the years I tried to teach them as much as possible and they have both learned some basic skills. But neither has the GOD given mechanical ability I seem to have been born with. It is really hard to explain but you either "get it" or you don't. You can go to school to become a body man, mechanic, carpenter, etc but even 95% of people what have done that just don't have the "natural skills" some of us were born with.

There is basically nothing I can't fix or build and I am happy for that but I wish I had 10% of the artistic talent you have. I think the thing that impresses me the most about you is you "have it all" - not only are you a natural when it comes to that artistic ability you also have a great sense of mechanical stuff. Plus you know how to work within your limits. Having all of that makes you one in a million. Keep up the great work!

#6999 49 days ago

Okay, tracked down an actual higher-res SELECT-A-CARD instruction card and re-made it. These old cards crack me up. They're definitely hand-made and spaced. Extra spaces for no reason. Abbreviations where they weren't needed. Some sentences end in periods, others don't. 1 REPLAY has parenthesis, but 10 REPLAY doesn't - it gets a period instead. The best one on this card is MILLION is misspelled "MILLON" - I couldn't figure out why I couldn't get it to line up with the original art until I realized that it was missing an "I". I left all the weirdness and the spelling error in. It's exactly like the original card.

I assume that different card part numbers had different rules since this one is quite different than the other one I couldn't fully make out. But this one looks more like an instruction card, and all the information is correct with no guessing on my part due to low resolution, so it's definitely the better of the two. Still not sure on the sizing, so if you want to use it, let me know the dimensions of the area inside the red/black box outline on the apron and I'll size it properly without the black border.
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#7000 49 days ago
Quoted from epeabs:

The woodrail is absolutely gorgeous, and I didn't think I would say that about a pin of that era. But the question is on everyone's minds........What will be the HEP Memorial Day weekend food of choice???? Will it be salmon, lobster, chicken, steaks? and the fixin's, and the beer????? I guess we'll have to wait for the official word. Happy Memorial Day everyone, stay safe.

So far it has been split chicken breast and grilled vegetables. C1F5C83E-7B8E-4674-99A6-6753B7273A0E (resized).jpeg
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