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HEP This Week 11-16-2020


By High_End_Pins

2 years ago



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“EBD Trim legs will be black regardless ”

  • Stainless/Factory 35 votes
    31%
  • Blacked out 54 votes
    48%
  • Painted Gold matched to cabinet 24 votes
    21%

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#651 2 years ago

A very common question in HEP threads is what is guidecoat why use it.

This is a good chance to show what can be lost n sanding without it if you have a rougher piece of wood.

When primed and still wet you can see the divots. Spots like this will be easy to see if painted or decaled over but they become much harder to spot once the primer dries.

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#652 2 years ago

By guide coating while the primer is uncured the black overspray settles into this low spots.
It is also why the guidecoat application can look sloppy but is strategically sprayed.
You spot the imperfections wet and focus the guidecoat on them when spraying.

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#653 2 years ago
Quoted from g94:

Being an amateur-restorer myself and spending months on a single restore, it is amazing to see how you crank out these beautiful games on a weekly basis. You're a man-machine, the terminator of pinball restoration...

Thank you.
I have seen some of your projects on here and know you have a great understanding of what it takes to pull this off.

#654 2 years ago

So the guide coat helps show imperfections on the wood better so you can see them and correct them as you sand? Does the guide coat also give you a "guide" as to how far you can sand the primer without potentially sanding through it?

#655 2 years ago

Chris,
I don't have a game going to you and probably never will (although I would love it). But you are an inspiration to many of us. Your weekly updates are incredible, and I love to see your progress. I may just have to send you some local beer because I am in awe! Thank you for your sharing your "journey".

#656 2 years ago

If you would take Canadian dollars at par I'll send you my quicksilver

#657 2 years ago
Quoted from Mitch:

If you would take Canadian dollars at par I'll send you my quicksilver

If he did that he’d need a big warehouse.
As I would be sending games as well.

#658 2 years ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

By guide coating while the primer is uncured the black overspray settles into this low spots.
It is also why the guidecoat application can look sloppy but is strategically sprayed.
You spot the imperfections wet and focus the guidecoat on them when spraying.
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Fantastic tip...thanks for sharing

#659 2 years ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Before I settle in with the lamp harness wiring on the IJ and the evening beer I kick on the compressor in the paint shop.
It cost more than the building it is in which is sad but it is an essential tool and clean dry air on demand is important. [quoted image]
I will mask and prime the TAF cabinet real quick now that the button holes are made and the Tommy cabinet is out of harms way.
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I didn't know CP made screw compressors. How long have you had it?

#660 2 years ago
Quoted from mario_1_up:

I didn't know CP made screw compressors. How long have you had it?

About 10 years.

#661 2 years ago

Worked through the IJ GI rewire this morning.

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New color correct wire.
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New screws. The gold colored ones are correct for lamps. B211C5B8-B955-4682-8791-004B01AD6CC5 (resized).jpeg

#662 2 years ago

Starting at the very end of the orange strand.
This is identified by the single wires gathered at the furthest socket. 05EE5148-C4F9-4B66-9FBD-2571AEC86462 (resized).jpeg

The end is on the other side and has doubled wires st the sockets. 015F4FF4-6256-4926-81AD-C9D677EF525E (resized).jpeg

The end is done first. BEC3DFD4-E23B-4DBE-91BD-BC7F038D2852 (resized).jpeg

Short protections where needed. FBB70D6D-121B-4742-B157-F52A7E18872C (resized).jpeg

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Then worked all the way to the other side of the orange strand. 38860F04-A0E0-4960-95BF-EE8EF91AC100 (resized).jpeg

Now I can do the same with the brown strand.

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#663 2 years ago

Always amazing work as always Chris, makes me and helps me work better and harder on my projects.

I'm also always amazed when you show your parts inventory, the cost of that alone must have been astronomical. However, with the speed and volume of work you do without sacrificing quality it's a must have to have this stuff in stock and ready to go.........

#664 2 years ago

Brown strand done and the lamp harness is just about out of the way just needs one or two feature lamp sockets located and secured then I can move to the solenoid harness.
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The trash from these two harness reworks adds up and isn’t the type of thing that you can fully appreciate just by looking at the game or pictures but it is a big part of truly rolling the odometer back to as close to zero as possible.
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#665 2 years ago

Busy day today so for a workout I had to settle for a run around the neighborhood.I am due a rest/recovery day anyway so today is a good one for that.
It is even better now though because of James B. Thank you!
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I eat my larger meal as a late lunch. The youngest son is special needs and a handful once he gets home from school so it provides my wife the best opportunity to fix us a good meal and to eat it in peace

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Today is Alaskan King Crab legs and sockeye salmon with some steamed asparagus. BCC6C485-B563-408D-BACE-18EB66981836 (resized).jpeg

#666 2 years ago

After a lunch like that and a light workout I need to get moving around a little bit before the Friday evening beers.

Going to sand and paint the new TAF cabinet and possibly the do the final black out on the Tommy cabinet interior.
I based that earlier in the week when I was stenciling but blocked it from the clear to minimize the risk of dragging the hose in the outside at that time.

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#667 2 years ago

Enjoy the rest, food and brew as it's well desevered! Many thanks to you sharing the art of your work. Its a huge help to us all and helps me become better by learning from one of the best. I can't thumbs up your posts enough but thank you Chris. I owe you some Golden Monkeys for all your help.

#668 2 years ago

Alright closing out another Friday around here.
Tommy lower is masked to do the final black
I don’t need to worry about doing the head that was cleared fully on the first pass.

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#669 2 years ago

As I start to sand the TAF lower the worth of the guidecoat becomes very apparent.
Remember those divots?
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The guidecoat will make sure you do.
This is a bit rough but will level out with some extra care but if not addressed would look pretty ugly under some black paint or decals.

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#670 2 years ago

As I sand further I am being “guided” to the areas that need more attention.

Guidecoat!!!

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#671 2 years ago

The known rough side is now in good order.
Would have been tough to get to this level without the guidance of guidecoat

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It’s 4:20 Friday afternoon LDSB by George.
Only little flight glasses are allowed this early in the paint shop.

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#672 2 years ago

Where do you get your lamp sockets? I like your method of daisy chaining the power wire on a tab connected to the lamp base.

#673 2 years ago

The other side of the TAF cabinet is equally rough.
Would be tough to catch these straight lines any other way.
This is probably a top piece of wood in a stack that line is possibly from banding the stack together.

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#674 2 years ago
Quoted from brenna98:

Where do you get your lamp sockets? I like your method of daisy chaining the power wire on a tab connected to the lamp base.

Pinballlife for those.

#675 2 years ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

It’s 4:20 Friday afternoon LDSB by George.
Only little flight glasses are allowed this early in the paint shop.
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Good timing.

Had a large beer in my shop the other day while working on a pin project and I asked what would Chris do? And now I know. Pour it into 3 small glasses..

#676 2 years ago
Quoted from WolfManCat:

Good timing.
Had a large beer in my shop the other day while working on a pin project and I asked what would Chris do? And now I know. Pour it into 3 small glasses..

Yes. Have to regulate yourself until the hard work is out of the way.

#677 2 years ago

Two glasses later with lots of water to fill in the gaps. image (resized).jpg

We are ready to paint.

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#678 2 years ago

Based in black.

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#679 2 years ago

TAF cabinet and Tommy interior cleared.

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#680 2 years ago

Chris, for addams family what is the post as seen in the pic?

The manual leads me to believe its this part number:

https://www.marcospecialties.com/control/keywordsearch?SEARCH_STRING=02-3409

But the part looks wrong.

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#681 2 years ago
Quoted from lordloss:

Chris, for addams family what is the post as seen in the pic?
The manual leads me to believe its this part number:
https://www.marcospecialties.com/control/keywordsearch?SEARCH_STRING=02-3409
But the part looks wrong.
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It is this one
https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/02-4036-1

#682 2 years ago
#683 2 years ago

IJ playfield wiring is almost complete.
Nickel plated brackets,short protection and on plugs.

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#684 2 years ago

Dinner time

Thanks for the crabs Wolfmancat!
I never thought I would type that but I really mean it. They are huge!!
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Also thank you j.m ratkos for the beer.
It is really smooth

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The two James have contributed to an excellent and relaxing evening for me. Much appreciated!!

#685 2 years ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Nickel plated brackets

Is there a point to the nickel plating other than cosmetics?

#686 2 years ago
Quoted from Aniraf:

Is there a point to the nickel plating other than cosmetics?

Yes

Most often these are plated to remove existing corrosion so while the cosmetics are nice it isn’t so much the point.
The added benefit is that they will not easily corrode again so it also adds better protection.

#687 2 years ago

IJ playfield wiring is complete until it gets finished on the topside after I place it in the cabinet.

The wiring now runs well clear of the target bank which is a tight spot in the factory configuration.

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#688 2 years ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Dinner time
Thanks for the crabs Wolfmancat!
I never thought I would type that but I really mean it. They are huge!!
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Also thank you j.m ratkos for the beer.
It is really smooth
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The two James have contributed to an excellent and relaxing evening for me. Much appreciated!!

I only give my crabs to the most special.

#689 2 years ago

IJ playfield is now in the cabinet.

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#690 2 years ago

Building up the new Revolutionary Pinball speaker panel.

This one works with the ColorDMD LCD.

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#691 2 years ago

IJ lives.

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#692 2 years ago

New week closing out some projects from weeks past,working towards doing that with others and starting some new ones.

First is the IJ
The apron is decaled with much nicer decals. D435F768-4C60-4413-B643-6EE1F402A6A0 (resized).jpeg

Then rebuilt and installed using black screws to blend in.

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#693 2 years ago

Next up for IJ will be rubber and a new plastic set.
Using yellow lane guides and amber caps on this build.
It is a combination I personally like that blends well once assembled.

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#694 2 years ago

TAF cabinet is screened and prepped for decals.
Lightly sanded on the inner because it will have interior art.

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#695 2 years ago

Now I can prep the Tommy for the final tweaks and clear.

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#696 2 years ago

Sanding the Tommy cab for final paint and clear.
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Why?
Stencil edges. Clear has a tendency to not run but gather and picture frame any sharp lines which are left behind from the first painting.

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#697 2 years ago

Sanding is complete for the Tommy cabinet final repaints and clear.

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#698 2 years ago

Cabinet is cleaned and ready for the minor repaints. image (resized).jpg

There are just a couple minor things to tighten up nothing most would notice.
Things like this. image (resized).jpg

#699 2 years ago

Corrections made to the Tommy cabinet image (resized).jpg

Repainting the IJ plane in the process.

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#700 2 years ago

When your trying to sand the clear to get rid of edges, there's a fine line (see what I did there) between sanding too much and taking paint off, or sanding too little and not getting rid of the edges. I guess it's just experience? Take that letter 'B' for instance, that's from sanding, I assume. I'm also assuming that you save the paint so you can touch that up. But doesn't touching up that red create as bump with the paint that will show up through the next layer of clear?

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