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HEP This Week 7-6-2020


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“EBD Trim legs will be black regardless ”

  • Stainless/Factory 35 votes
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  • Blacked out 54 votes
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  • Painted Gold matched to cabinet 24 votes
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#6801 61 days ago
Quoted from littlecammi:

Mulch isn't done yet. Chris still has to mask the sidewalks and then add two layers of clear over it.

Hilarious!Really enjoyed that
Curtis is debating which is more exciting right now the Twinkies or the beer collection.

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#6802 61 days ago

Has he ever had a Chocodile?

https://freshchocodiles.com

Basically a chocolate covered Twinkie. Good to know they're still available.

#6803 61 days ago
Quoted from jaytrem:

Has he ever had a Chocodile?
https://freshchocodiles.com
Basically a chocolate covered Twinkie. Good to know they're still available.

No telling with that guy . He gets into all kinds of things
Where do you think we got this?

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#6804 59 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Chrome Fathom inside.
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Oh My.

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#6805 59 days ago

New week.
I am going to state the things I hope to accomplish this week.
This is something I always do internally but I don’t think I ever put in thread.
The reason is because regardless of what I could do if everything goes perfectly,I don’t have any interruptions or I don’t get sidetracked I almost never have a week where those things don’t happen.
What I would like to do this week is this.
Gut my TAFs
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Get the final clear down on the HS cabinet.
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Do what I hope will be the final repaints and maybe even the final clear on the woodrail.
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Put the finishing touches on the Black Knightimage (resized).jpg

One a scale of 1-10 one being the easiest /closest and ten being the hardest farthest away at this point I would rank them as follows
TAFs 6
HS cab(only cab right now not whole project) 3
Woodrail 9
BK 4

Getting through these will free up room and racks for the next projects.
The woodrail is claiming a lot of real estate on the racks.

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#6806 58 days ago

Monday is in the books.
How did I do?
Black Knight is just about there. 9023EBB5-28AD-46A1-9CFA-6D2D48FFBDA1 (resized).jpeg
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The High Speed cabinet took a little more work than I had planned for.
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It was sanded slick and any imperfections noted with masking tape. A9BD5202-5071-4110-8C72-C597159508D6 (resized).jpeg
What are my concerns now.
Exclusively some markings in the yellow. They can’t be seen unless you really study it inches away.
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This is probably some glue that stayed behind undetected during the stenciling process. A51C6110-5AA3-4E0B-92D6-DFC004EE3EFA (resized).jpeg
What does that mean for me?
I need to mask and repaint the yellow stripe if I want a better job.
I don’t have to it is fine no one is going to notice but I know it is there and it will bother me.
I also cut the bevel in the lower so it can be now sealed in the final clear. BA2EC3D7-BD04-4680-9890-9D35EB0DEAAF (resized).jpeg
Then the yellow stripe was masked on the lower and sprayed. I wanted to close the gaps on the start button area cut out as well.

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#6807 58 days ago

HS Now unmasked and ready for the final clear.
Clean paper on the stand and cabinet is a must at this point. The clear I will use is not polishable.
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Final clear is applied. The gloss is dialed up a little but not too much.
It is a 70 gloss 30 matte ratio compared to my normal preference of 60/40.
This should yield a nice gloss like finish without being too glossy. There is is just something about a full gloss cabinet I personally don’t like and never seem to be able to talk myself into although it would be much easier.

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#6808 58 days ago

Lovin’ the HS cabinet and special touches!

#6809 58 days ago

You really poured a ton of work into that HS! My cabinet is all prepped and ready for paint. with the color stacking and stencil edge issues looks like I have my work cut out for me.

I can see where the stacking was a problem on the lower cabinet since the red is laid on top of the Yellow. Would be nice if the yellow could be laid on top of a solid red eliminating the edges as it is on the head stencil sequence. Makes for an extra paint step with yellow first on the cabinet and red first on the head. Need to do a little planning on this paint job.

I really like what you did with the white on the head and continued the stripes around the front of the cabinet.

#6810 58 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Busy Monday.
Skateball finally got packed and picked up.
I have been hesitant to get lumber etc and they had been pretty strict with the shelter in place here [quoted image]
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Had some new arrivals come in.
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Another IJ
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“Do I really need a new cabinet ?”they often ask
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Ooooh, pretty excited to see your handy work and picking up some tips on the Quicksilver and Whirlwind. I’m currently restoring these two myself.

#6811 57 days ago

HS cabinet has dried overnight and is now ready to move out of the paint shop.
Gloss level is exactly what I was hoping for. More towards the gloss side but with a slickness and sheen that doesn’t look too thick.

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#6812 57 days ago

To make room for the HS cabinet the BK is moved into a room I can put the finishing touches on it in
The TAFs are at a point right now where they are taking up the footprint of four games so it requires some space management at times.

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#6813 57 days ago

HS cabinet is now in a rebuild room. CEAB115B-0169-4A8E-8998-594AB0C2A5CF (resized).jpeg7F718E78-69BF-4CE9-9ECB-6E70440BB76D (resized).jpegF2E5DCFD-42B8-463E-AD8F-3D520D595171 (resized).jpeg

I got the parts back from Powdercoating
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Gloss black powder is just a solid base to work off of sometimes.
The wireforms etc all look great but the rails and lockbars often have to be sanded painted and cleared to be on par with the cabinet paint work.
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These will be no exception
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#6814 57 days ago

That trim goes in the paint shop and I will try to work it in with the woodrail cabinet

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#6815 57 days ago

Tuesday is done.
Sanded all the black trim I needed to. Then based it and cleared it.

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#6816 57 days ago

Put some more work into the woodrail cabinet.
This time further leveling and stabilizing the surface followed by masking and painting the red again

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#6817 57 days ago

Unmasked cleared that again.

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#6818 57 days ago

So wait, you send trim out for powder coated. When it comes back you sand, paint and clear?

#6819 57 days ago

Wow! I kept finding this thread in searches and it's neat that you keep it updated with happenings.

I'm about to refinish my Addams Family cabinet, what kind of paint would you recommend?

#6820 57 days ago

I hope the woodrail owner appreciates all the work going into that cabinet! I actually thought it looked period perfect after your cleaning, more than acceptable level of patina. But the customer is always right.

#6821 57 days ago

So the powder coating company is obvious someone you use a lot. When you get work back like that from them, do you tell them your not paying for it? Do they give you a credit since you had to repaint them yourself?

#6822 57 days ago

the paint job on that wood rail is looking great chris

#6823 57 days ago
Quoted from fossmin:

So the powder coating company is obvious someone you use a lot. When you get work back like that from them, do you tell them your not paying for it? Do they give you a credit since you had to repaint them yourself?

I have low expectations for the finished appearance of Powdercoating so it isn’t a concern.
If on the rare occasion I get parts back that I can install without touching them that is great but if not I am prepared and willing to get them to a level I want.
Powdercoating is almost like a primer to me really.

#6824 57 days ago
Quoted from yancy:

I hope the woodrail owner appreciates all the work going into that cabinet! I actually thought it looked period perfect after your cleaning, more than acceptable level of patina. But the customer is always right.

Let’s hope so. I didn’t want to get involved in it at all because I already know stuff like this is an even bigger can of worms than the normal projects.
As it has progressed it has reminded me all to well why I said no for a year

#6825 57 days ago

It may be a bigger can of worms, but in the end you'll have something to show for it that's even more amazing than your "normal" work.

I can understand not wanting to do this often, but as a "once in a while thing", it is pretty cool.

So, how do you normally ship these when you are done (carrier/insurance/etc)?

I would think that the danger of having your hard work be destroyed in shipping would be significant. Have any horror stories to tell?

I cringe to think of that chrome Fathom being destroyed by some fork lift somewhere.

#6826 56 days ago

Such great work!! I love paint and seeing some of the cool work people can do with paint! I hope to one day restore one at a time and just for fun to keep them alive. Wish I could do it with cars but I think the wife would not like that idea!

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#6827 56 days ago

Black Knight finished.

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#6828 56 days ago

Black knight playfield

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#6829 56 days ago

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#6830 56 days ago

My old BK ! That’s the nicest one on the Planet now . Just Gorgeous

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#6831 56 days ago

Nice work as usual. Unfortunate the black paint rubbed off on the underside of the playfield.

#6832 56 days ago
Quoted from Pin-Pilot:

Nice work as usual. Unfortunate the black paint rubbed off on the underside of the playfield.

Those are just normal skid marks from sliding the playfield in and out. It’s not the paint rubbing off

#6833 56 days ago
Quoted from pinwiztom:

Glad Maverick finally showed up (after nearly 4 weeks absence) in your post of about 4 days ago.
Wondering if he may be getting a bit more shaggy lately,
since I assume the dog groomers are on lockdown for past several weeks.
Also wondering if you are getting shaggy, or do you have clippers to give yourself a homemade trim.

Maverick finally got to go back to the groomers after almost two months.
He was relieved.

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#6834 56 days ago

Way to go Maverick, looking sharp my man! That's gotta be the nicest Black Knight I've ever clapped eyes on!

#6835 56 days ago

the BK looks beautiful but I was surprised to the see back of the backbox lacking the warning screening. was this something that the owner requested?

#6836 56 days ago

The subtle changes you make to most machines is the best. For instance the black acorn nuts on the playfield plastics. The are simple enhancements, but I think these little things really put your restores over the top. Great work!

#6837 56 days ago
Quoted from j_m_:

the BK looks beautiful but I was surprised to the see back of the backbox lacking the warning screening. was this something that the owner requested?

No screening on the backbox is correct on these.
They didn’t start doing that until the System 11 era.
It does leave a lot of empty real estate back there though.
Sometimes I fill that in with something creative other times whatever is original is fine.

#6838 56 days ago
Quoted from fossmin:

The subtle changes you make to most machines is the best. For instance the black acorn nuts on the playfield plastics. The are simple enhancements, but I think these little things really put your restores over the top. Great work!

Thank you.
I always try to make each one a little different usually in subtle ways sometimes in bigger ones.

#6839 56 days ago

Frickin BEAUTIFUL BK Chris!

#6840 56 days ago
Quoted from mbeardsley:

It may be a bigger can of worms, but in the end you'll have something to show for it that's even more amazing than your "normal" work.
I can understand not wanting to do this often, but as a "once in a while thing", it is pretty cool.
So, how do you normally ship these when you are done (carrier/insurance/etc)?
I would think that the danger of having your hard work be destroyed in shipping would be significant. Have any horror stories to tell?
I cringe to think of that chrome Fathom being destroyed by some fork lift somewhere.

I usually ship these STI on a custom built oversized pallet fully blanketed.
Full insurance is used usually $10 to 15k
I have a couple horror stories after almost 20 years of shipping pins but STI has been the best fit for me and the most accountable.
The worst is when I used to fully crate the games.
Using Bax Global they decided the crate fit in their truck better on its side somewhere between here and CA even though it was obviously built to only set upright.
Game arrived in fairly good order considering but not perfect.
Filed a claim had it returned.
Fought tooth and nail to get a settlement ,redid the cabinet entirely and sent the game back to the owner and ONCE AGAIN THESE F&?:S! @ Bax Global decided to turn the crate on its side again.
I was stunned. After filing yet another claim and fighting tooth and nail once more I got a settlement and was told that in the future my shipments would only be insured for $500 and that I should be labeling my crates better.

#6841 56 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

After filing yet another claim and fighting tooth and nail once more I got a settlement and was told that in the future my shipments would only be insured for $500 and that I should be labeling my crates better.

Perhaps that was the last time you used BAX?

#6842 56 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

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Chris -

As always, absolutely stunning work. I'm personally not a fan of some of the colors, but the work is impeccable! You build what the customer wants, and you can't deny that!

I appreciate the time you take to share your craft with us.

Chris

#6843 56 days ago
Quoted from SilverUnicorn:

Chris -
As always, absolutely stunning work. I'm personally not a fan of some of the colors, but the work is impeccable! You build what the customer wants, and you can't deny that!
I appreciate the time you take to share your craft with us.
Chris

The work is phenomenal. So far I have a HEP Grand Prix and Champion Pub. I gave Chris free reign to mix it up a bit on each pin. His changes are tasteful.

#6844 56 days ago

Could you please send a link for that red sanding wheel again. The stores don’t have any and I need one badly.

#6845 55 days ago

Please post a link to that red sanding pad. No store has one and I need on for a project

#6846 55 days ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Everything is in order on the HS cabinet [quoted image]
The issue with the original hinge is that it is flimsy.
Right after HS they switched to a thicker style that better distributed on the neck.
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Chris,

Where can I get these hinges from?

#6847 55 days ago
Quoted from eyeamred2u:

Chris,
Where can I get these hinges from?

I would keep an eye on EBay.
That is where I found mine.

#6848 55 days ago

Wood rail cabinet day
First to sand it.
The clear applications thus far have not been sprayed with a finishing technique.
Just really sprayed and used as a primer and sealer.
I will start to really true the surface in these final sessions
In order to do that I will focus on each side flat and independently.
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I aim to slicker it and start working on dialing in the line work. 8842C37F-EF62-4996-922A-F5CF4E026E4E (resized).jpeg
As I sand in this position I can really track hard edges,surface level and break throughs. AF2E7975-CF3A-4E98-8D04-7721310E2685 (resized).jpeg
These are the types of things I am working on.
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#6849 55 days ago

The surface is sanded perfectly flat once again

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#6850 55 days ago

It is chemically cleaned again.

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