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HEP This Week 1-19-2021


By High_End_Pins

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“EBD Trim legs will be black regardless ”

  • Stainless/Factory 35 votes
    31%
  • Blacked out 54 votes
    48%
  • Painted Gold matched to cabinet 24 votes
    21%

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#6601 9 months ago

BK lamp wiring is done.
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It was extensive.
Brand new GI wire from head to toe. 0B693916-C601-491C-9F65-032DFF27D791 (resized).jpeg
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Removal and replacement of the feature lamps and strips.

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#6602 9 months ago
Quoted from Pin-Pilot:

Chris,
Noticed you use different color primers throughout your jobs. Do you use a primer that is close to the base you are going to spray?

Sometimes.
It depends.
On light cabinets definitely
Darker ones it is less important but can be a material saver.
I call this value shading based on an older color system I am trained in.
Starting with white going all the way to black there are several shades that can be mixed to get optimal color coverage of your base or top coat.
For example white base is going to cover best over white primer/sealer and black is going to cover best over black but red will do best over a very light gray and dark blue will do best over a med to dark gray.
So intermixing the white and black in shades based on the color that will be painted is a very smart way to maximize coverage and it is done more based on the lightness or darkness of the color and how well it covers than the color itself.

#6603 9 months ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

BK lamp wiring is done.
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It was extensive.
Brand new GI wire from head to toe. [quoted image]
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Removal and replacement of the feature lamps and strips.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

I know you have High Speed in the wings. I assume you will also be replacing the feature strips on that pin as well? There are a lot of them! My High Speed strips were corroded and not looking good. I found some replacement strips and used those. However replacing them all together would be a good way to go as well. A bit more work but Like you said easier to service if a socket goes haywire.

#6604 9 months ago

TAF cabinets are sanded based and cleared.

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#6605 9 months ago

Friday evening beer 1

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#6606 9 months ago

Second one is massive.
Step one of the cameo thing complete.

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#6607 9 months ago

Hey Chris,

When you sand guide coats, base or clear, do you do any wet sanding or is it always dry sanding?

#6608 9 months ago
Quoted from Pin-Pilot:

Hey Chris,
When you sand guide coats, base or clear, do you do any wet sanding or is it always dry sanding?

Always dry. Wood and water do not mix.
Technically after you seal it in clear you could but if you break through anywhere it is likely to swell the grain.

#6609 9 months ago

Experimenting with that cameo thing.

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#6610 9 months ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Experimenting with that cameo thing.[quoted image]

And it's tax-deductible!

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#6611 9 months ago

Now it is

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#6612 9 months ago

AWESOME!!!

#6613 9 months ago

Black knight main playfield is wired.
New magnets,fuse holders,loom,plugs etc

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#6614 9 months ago

Bk coin door built and installed.

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#6615 9 months ago

Curtis checks in for the night shift.
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He has his project. 5A6B4CDD-66AD-4205-83CE-05D3EDC9D4E9 (resized).jpeg
I have mine
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He has his beverages.
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I have mine. 2466193C-938C-4BF5-A211-FABE69E70A54 (resized).jpeg
We have run out of shows to watch so we go with music today.
On a Ska kick tonight. Tomorrow is British Heavy Me’al.

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#6616 9 months ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Curtis checks in for the night shift.
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He has his project. [quoted image]

An appropriate project for 4-20.

#6618 9 months ago

BK cabinet wired.

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#6619 9 months ago

Main playfield in BK10486698-B2C3-4EA5-B06D-891EE42476E3 (resized).jpeg
Playfield is out of the HS

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#6620 9 months ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Main playfield in BK[quoted image]
Playfield is out of the HS[quoted image][quoted image]

You have your work cut out for you on that HS! Lots of Light strips. I know your preference is to replace the light strips. Are you planning on doing that with this HEP restore? Mine were in pretty bad shape but was able to find replacements.

The playfield looks decent. You going to use that one or a repo?

#6621 9 months ago
Quoted from Pin-Pilot:

You have your work cut out for you on that HS! Lots of Light strips. I know your preference is to replace the light strips. Are you planning on doing that with this HEP restore? Mine were in pretty bad shape but was able to find replacements.
The playfield looks decent. You going to use that one or a repo?

Yes. I will replace the light strips.
This playfield is not that great. Between the full Mylar ,discolorations and popped inserts it really isn’t worth fooling with unless we were desperate.
Have a new playfield so we aren’t.
That new playfield isn’t perfect either but it is a much better starting platform.
Should start getting the cabinet in order this week.

#6622 9 months ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Yes. I will replace the light strips.
This playfield is not that great. Between the full Mylar ,discolorations and popped inserts it really isn’t worth fooling with unless we were desperate.
Have a new playfield so we aren’t.
That new playfield isn’t perfect either but it is a much better starting platform.
Should start getting the cabinet in order this week.

Cool. I am awaiting my cabinet. Should be here in a couple weeks. Is there a reason you keep the Tilt board? I am going to install the tilt cage/ball and pendulum on the cabinet and relocate the volume control to the coin door where it is much more accessible. I see no reason to reinstall the board. I believe Williams did this because they could pre assemble the components separate then slap it into the cabinet when it came time. I believe they made a much smaller board in Taxi. I think it is a needless item in a restore.

#6623 9 months ago
Quoted from Pin-Pilot:

Cool. I am awaiting my cabinet. Should be here in a couple weeks. Is there a reason you keep the Tilt board? I am going to install the tilt cage/ball and pendulum on the cabinet and relocate the volume control to the coin door where it is much more accessible. I see no reason to reinstall the board. I believe Williams did this because they could pre assemble the components separate then slap it into the cabinet when it came time. I believe they made a much smaller board in Taxi. I think it is a needless item in a restore.

I eliminate them often but it depends on the game.
A game like BK with a bell is a game that is good to include it to isolate the bell.
A game like HS needs it also because the panel acts as a stop for the playfield when in the upright position.
Changes are cool but you really need to study what you add or eliminate.

#6624 9 months ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

I eliminate them often but it depends on the game.
A game like BK with a bell is a game that is good to include it to isolate the bell.
A game like HS needs it also because the panel acts as a stop for the playfield when in the upright position.
Changes are cool but you really need to study what you add or eliminate.

Wow, yes that is a good point. I forgot all about that being the stop for the playfield. Would have been a big surprise had you not brought that to light. Thank you for sharing that. That is where your years of experience pays off.

I can see where BK with the bell is good with the board.

I am still on the mindset to eliminate the board and simply add a smaller stop for the playfield. The playfield came very close to the head when in the upright position on my pin (probably not uncommon wear over the years). Not a good thing for possible wear, however it would not be hard to position the new board for a better fit. It is really not a great design.

thanks Chris.

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#6625 9 months ago

It was Marshall’s 20th birthday today.
Can’t believe this guy is 20!
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I sanded and polished some odds and ends.

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#6626 9 months ago

I am starting to work on some of the details of the wood rail.

Prepped and stained some of the playfield parts to make sure they will match the previously done trim.

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#6627 9 months ago

Screen the TAF heads.
And started the final assembly of the last Fathom playfield.

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#6629 9 months ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

It was Marshall’s 20th birthday today.
Can’t believe this guy is 20!

What? No Animal Crossing??!

#6630 9 months ago

Happy Birthday Marshall! Bet those waffle fries were good!

#6631 9 months ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

It was Marshall’s 20th birthday today.
Can’t believe this guy is 20!
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He wanted the usual video game stuff and fried food. Was able to hook him up with both [quoted image]
I sanded and polished some odds and ends.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Well, Happy Birthday to him!

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#6632 9 months ago

BK upper playfield is polished and ready to build. 39B23A50-5362-48D7-B8C8-B4B3EAB4F0C0 (resized).jpeg
TAF cabs are prepped to decal. 21A15BF1-1356-4964-8203-E978BCFA1775 (resized).jpeg
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#6633 9 months ago

Got the wood rail parts stained yesterday cleared.
Along with the HEP beer sign.
It’s a matte clear so it should gloss down and look less grained once dry.

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#6634 9 months ago

Wood rail cabinet is gutted and put in the paint shop.
I am going to figure out my plan of attack as I go.

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#6635 9 months ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Got the wood rail parts stained yesterday cleared.
Along with the HEP beer sign.

Continue to love the wood rail process unfolding here. I know it is not likely we will see a lot of wood rails get the HEP treatment, but it is great someone is willing to make this investment to preserve a little bit of pinball history.

Also, I am impressed you pulled out the Silhouette Cameo right away to get some experience and have something to show for it. Looking forward to seeing you apply it to a restoration in the future.

#6636 9 months ago

Is that Pac Man on the side of the wood rail cab? I had no idea they had his design down that long before the game came out.

#6637 9 months ago

Pie graphs been round longer than pacman.

#6638 9 months ago

Over at the warehouse
Inventorying some new arrivals. C7167807-9747-4CCF-A645-962A5499DD92 (resized).jpeg1BD050B5-12CC-4D64-88FC-6E15D458DD38 (resized).jpeg
Loading up some TAFs.

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#6639 9 months ago

Hey I totally enjoy following this form you do nice work .
I recently Purchased a silk screen printing jig for the warning labels on WPC games and was wondering what color yellow you're using. Thanks happy restoring

#6640 9 months ago
Quoted from trimoto:

Hey I totally enjoy following this form you do nice work .
I recently Purchased a silk screen printing jig for the warning labels on WPC games and was wondering what color yellow you're using. Thanks happy restoring

https://www.dickblick.com/items/43211-4022/

Can't buy it smaller.. but at least you can order some squeeges while you are there...

#6641 9 months ago

HS cabinet is prepped.
I will mask and prime that tomorrow.

TAFs are unloaded.

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#6642 9 months ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Over at the warehouse
Inventorying some new arrivals.

I thought you were going strickly to woodrails from now on???

Happy Birthday Marshall!

#6643 9 months ago
Quoted from jaytrem:

I thought you were going strickly to woodrails from now on???
Happy Birthday Marshall!

The variety is fun... did I see a hint somewhere that there's a C37 in the queue?

#6644 9 months ago
Quoted from DaMoib:

The variety is fun... did I see a hint somewhere that there's a C37 in the queue?

There is. I have been waiting on the playfields.
Not sure what is going on there. I sent a deposit quite a while ago and that was after a long wait on the pre order list. I am sure Wade will come through but this one in particular has seemed to challenge him.

#6645 9 months ago

Setting up the TAFs.
The first is probably going to be a rust or corrosion special based on the swelling of the MDF
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I will look them over much closer shortly.

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#6646 9 months ago

So is TAF the winner of the 'title most restored by HEP'?

#6647 9 months ago
Quoted from flynnibus:

So is TAF the winner of the 'title most restored by HEP'

Ha, I was just thinking the same thing.

#6648 9 months ago
Quoted from flynnibus:

So is TAF the winner of the 'title most restored by HEP'?

Maybe.
Could also be TZ,IJ ,AFM,MM
Some of the 80s games are adding up a little too like Fathom and Centaur but neither would come close to the other four mentioned.

#6649 9 months ago

TAF AA I will call it Is the worst of the two.
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Has some interesting reinterpretation of the art in the bookcase area. image (resized).jpg
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Inside the head. Ok does have a Rottendog CPU along with the normal burnt connectors.
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Underside of the playfield is about what I expected. Rust corrosion mangled mechs.

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#6650 9 months ago

TAF JS is a little better in some ways that don’t matter and a little worse in others that do. image (resized).jpg
Playfield is nicer but a bit washed out looking. image (resized).jpg
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Inside the head it has a Rottendog display controller. image (resized).jpg
Has the typical connector burns and hacks. image (resized).jpg
Biggest concern at a glance is the CPU
Been socketed in a couple spots image (resized).jpg
Looks to have had either horrible work or bad corrosion probably both.
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Similar concerns with the Fliptronic board. Although from what I can right now looks to have had at least ok work done on it.
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Underside is a little better than the other but really about the same for my purposes.
Broken scoops some bolted together others glued. Anything but welded or replaced

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