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“EBD Trim legs will be black regardless ”

  • Stainless/Factory 35 votes
    31%
  • Blacked out 54 votes
    48%
  • Painted Gold matched to cabinet 24 votes
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#5951 1 year ago

Fathom cabinets stenciled

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#5952 1 year ago

Fathom cabinets cleared.

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#5953 1 year ago

Make your job easier doing two cabinets at once?

#5954 1 year ago
Quoted from ToucanF16:

Make your job easier doing two cabinets at once?

Not really. On exactly the same cabinets.
The only real advantage is that they are using the same paint and clear so I waste a little less and have less clean up between colors.

If two different cabinets at the same time then it might actually be worse than doing them one at a time up until it is time to clear them both.

#5955 1 year ago

IJ cabinet is ready to decal then decaled.

Corner alignment is as good as it gets on these with the main focus being what is not covered once assembled.
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#5956 1 year ago

Time to set up the the IJ base game.

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#5957 1 year ago

There are always small clues about condition.
Little things like using the wrong bolt on the hinge.
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A strangely dark translite
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The playfield on this one won’t even pull forward and latch properly

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#5958 1 year ago

The playfield looks ok. I should be able to salvage it.
I had been holding out for a repro but after being strung along for a couple months(next week,in two weeks ,cutting it now,etc)I simply run out of time and have to move on.

The shooter lane is probably the biggest issue that I can spot right now until torn down completely.

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#5959 1 year ago

After fighting it a bit I was able to get the playfield latched.
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Same old same old.

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Coils coming unspooled.

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#5960 1 year ago

IJ playfield is stripped.

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#5961 1 year ago

Man, given that shooter lane wear I’m surprised the playfield itself didn’t fare worse.....

#5962 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

I just had a busy couple days this week
Yearly physical etc.
I have managed to get some work done.
The parts came back from plating. [quoted image]
That allowed me to work on building both Spirit 2 and 3 back up.
Spirit 2 mechs
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So how do you decide between replatting and tumbler? I have a pretty beaten up project with quite a bit of rust on all the metal which i was considering sending for replatting. Would every metal parts of assemblies be able to be platted? drop target, slings, ball through...?

#5963 1 year ago
Quoted from hisokajp:

So how do you decide between replatting and tumbler? I have a pretty beaten up project with quite a bit of rust on all the metal which i was considering sending for replatting. Would every metal parts of assemblies be able to be platted? drop target, slings, ball through...?

Just my 2 cents ..... tumble first and see what it looks like. It’s surprising how pieces will clean up. If it still looks bad then have it plated.

#5964 1 year ago

I think that's the worst shooter lane I've ever seen!

#5965 1 year ago

Mylar is pulled from the IJ playfield set. 3FD78B93-4F81-425B-BF95-0F9E97FE3879 (resized).jpeg
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The playfield is chemically cleaned

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#5966 1 year ago

Prepped and cleared for the first time. Will need some repaints and all that but I did get to a much better starting point and was able to eliminate some ghosting it had in a few inserts.

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#5967 1 year ago

Fathom cabinets are sanded and prepped for the final clear.
The process involves leveling the stencil colors.
This final clear will be a matte clear that should yield about a 75% gloss or so.

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#5968 1 year ago

Final clear on Fathom cabinets

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#5969 1 year ago

Got the final clear down on the Spirit 2 apron.
The art itself on the apron has a couple minor flaws but it looks great overall and a nice finish helps that much more.
Also cleared the POA for IJ the first time.

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#5970 1 year ago

Time for the Thursday beer. And it really is that.

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#5971 1 year ago

Mmm, blueberry maple!

#5972 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Prepped and cleared for the first time. Will need some repaints and all that but I did get to a much better starting point and was able to eliminate some ghosting it had in a few inserts.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

wow - pretty amazing how quickly that PF cleaned up and thorough!! with your 'chemical' method. The ground in stuff really is history.

#5973 1 year ago
Quoted from mollyspub:

I think that's the worst shooter lane I've ever seen!

You need to see more shooter lanes. It's mostly just dirty, but not blown out like many I have seen...

#5974 1 year ago

What product do you use to "chemically" clean?

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#5975 1 year ago
Quoted from Muskie82:

What product do you use to "chemically" clean?

I use a few different things which I think I covered here somewhere.

Dirt is usually water based or solvent based

Water based cleaners are used to clean the organic or water based soils because they reactivate and remove them best due to there common component water.
Cromax v3921 is a good product for this.

Solvent based cleaners are used for solvent based dirt. This would be oils and other things that are not water based for the same reasons as the water based cleaners in that they have a common component which is solvent or are made specifically to remove solvent based contamination.
There are several cleaners that will do this I like to use straight acetone because it is usually the main ingredient in all those cleaners where as the water based ones are much trickier and propriety.

The cleaning process used on the IJ playfield might be a little deceptive because it took a good bit of sanding to get it to the point it was at once cleared but the cleansing process is essential and does help a lot.

First water based dirts are removed
Then solvent
Then sanded and prepped
Then water based cleaned again
Then solvent based
Then ready to coat.

#5976 1 year ago

Spirit 2 playfield build is coming along.
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It ended up evolving into a really time consuming rewire
The way the slingshots are wired is that the two switches share a lead of the coil
This means that each sling shot switch requires six wires to be color correct and it’s own plug then a separate plug for the actual coil after routing a jumper wire through the harness.
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All lamp sockets are now two lead so that involves a good bit of mapping and fishing the new insulated wire into the harness.
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#5977 1 year ago

IJ playfield was ready to prep for repaints.
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The areas that need work are numerous but nothing major. Sometimes a lot of little things is more work that one big one but the real issue when dealing with this type of thing is that it can lead to a lot of color matching,masking and clean up.
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The playfield is sanded and cleaned
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The yellow is masked and sprayed.
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#5978 1 year ago

Then the wood tones are lightly frosted because of bulb burn and ground in dirt.
After that blue areas of concern,some orange
4 colors in total plus some black work.

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#5979 1 year ago

IJ playfield ready then it is cleared and looking much better.

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#5980 1 year ago

IJ cabinet is building as well.

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#5981 1 year ago

Whoa! I just had to put these side by side. That's some Voodoo right there.... Is that really the same play field?

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#5982 1 year ago

HEP exposed! Shows fake before & after "process" photos of a beater and an NOS playfield. I knew there had to be a catch.

#5983 1 year ago
Quoted from yancy:

HEP exposed! Shows fake before & after "process" photos of a beater and an NOS playfield. I knew there had to be a catch.

Is this a joke?

#5984 1 year ago
Quoted from radial_head:

Is this a joke?

Yes

#5985 1 year ago

Everyone knows this isn’t about pinball, but more for Chris to show off his beer and awesome lunch and dinners he has often.

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#5986 1 year ago

Got one Fathom cabinet braided and up on legs.
This was the former BTC lower and a reworked original head. image (resized).jpg
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Here is a comparison between the HEP paint scheme and the BTC.
One is a perfect match to the apron the other is probably somewhere more in the realm of original but a bit too drab.

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#5987 1 year ago

The other is also ready to do the same but is going to have chrome trim.

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#5988 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Here is a comparison between the HEP paint scheme and the BTC.
One is a perfect match to the apron the other is probably somewhere more in the realm of original but a bit too drab.

Also the BTC stencil work is questionable. Bally logo on the head, woof. Is that freehand?

#5989 1 year ago
Quoted from yancy:

Also the BTC stencil work is questionable. Bally logo on the head, woof. Is that freehand?

Crappy auto-outline. The thickness is a dead giveaway.

#5990 1 year ago

Fathom chrome is braided and up on legs.
The build up of the head of that one will be more involved because it is a brand new head do the lock,arm and other parts take much more effort to put in place.

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#5991 1 year ago

Back to the Spirit 2 playfield wiring and soldering marathon.
Working through the flippers now as well as the lamps still.

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#5992 1 year ago

Playfield has made it into the cabinet of Spirit 2.

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#5993 1 year ago

Curtis turned 22 yesterday.
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He had to work so that meant two parties

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#5994 1 year ago

The nickel plated ball guides and parts are placed on the Spirit 2 playfield. It is then powered up for testing.

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#5995 1 year ago

Congrats to the boy!

My favorite thread on all of pinside; I really appreciate your explanations and reasoning behind the things you do and the techniques you use, it’s a real inspiration seeing your work.

I’ve also taken a few of your beer suggestions, haha.

Cheers!

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#5996 1 year ago
Quoted from Grandnational007:

Congrats to the boy!
My favorite thread on all of pinside; I really appreciate your explanations and reasoning behind the things you do and the techniques you use, it’s a real inspiration seeing your work.
I’ve also taken a few of your beer suggestions, haha.
Cheers![quoted image]

Cheers!
Wednesday beer

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#5997 1 year ago

Happy bday Curtis. My birthday was yesterday as well. That sweet my bday is the same as someone famous.

#5998 1 year ago

Happy 22nd Curtis, looks like Dad's training regimen is paying off, your looking fit! Keep it up!

#5999 1 year ago

Happy Birthday Curtis !

LTG : )

#6000 1 year ago
Quoted from High_End_Pins:

Curtis turned 22 yesterday.

How long until he needs a full restoration?

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